+ 4 Test and EQ Question
I have been on TRT (140mg weekly) for a while and have been scouring these pages for info on what to do next. I firmly believe that most people can benefit from cleaning up their diet and staying on track in the gym with a good routine. After lots of research I decided to give Retatrutide a run starting June 14th, 2025 , with a starting weight of 215 and BF13%(see first photo). I started June 14 on 2.5mg Reta weekly and bumped my test up to 250 mg/week, pinning 2x/week, cleaned up my diet and started tracking macros, and low and behold my body started to change... With a much leaner and cleaner physique, and more research on this site, I decided that I was going to pump up the Test from 250 to 525 weekly and add in some EQ. I started the EQ August 17, 2025. Now, I know that EQ takes 4 weeks or so to really kick in, it's a slow burn, but I my goal is to add 10 lbs of lean muscle by the end of the year. I am currently at 205 lbs with much lower BF% (not sure on exact %, but see pic taken on September 2, 2025).
Training 5x week
Training Day Calories- 3,100
Rest Day Cal- 2,650
High Day Cal- 4,100
My Question for all you seasoned vets that have used EQ before is do you recommend adding anything else later down the line? My plan is to run the 525 Test and 420 EQ for 16-20 weeks and to drop Reta down to 1mg week. Any help would be appreciated.
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9 weeks for eq to peak and use the 5 to 7 weeks to halflife out to figure your finish. Donate blood week 8 and blood test around week 7 to see e2. Taurine for back pumps. Eq will add solid lean weight.
Finish....its winter so you can keep it simple and drop eq week 16-19 and figure bout 5weeks will be back to trt dose. Let the long esters roll. If it was spring beach time theres other routes as finish but just enjoy it. Cardio will be a snap so use that on stairs to burn excess fat post workout so meals can teeter on a bigger scale. Add mass....
Thanks for the info! I am scheduled to give blood in two weeks and also do labs. Since EQ has a long half life do you taper down your test dose in those 5 weeks after dropping EQ, or should I just ride it out at current dose?
First time eq user myself. Just got my first bloods done @ 5 weeks running 600t, 200npp, 300eq. My e2 was in the single digits. I feel fine libido, energy and joint wise so maybe not an issue. But it would be for some guys. I'd get your e2 levels, as well as other typical blood markers, checked at 4-5 weeks just to be sure everything is cool.
I will say the physical changes happened fast. About 3 weeks in it was pretty clear my chest and shoulders were a fair bit wider. 5 weeks in and my girl started asking what's this new bump whenever she'd give me a massage. Every time she asked it was because the muscles were growing so fast. Last week she couldn't understand how my lats were noticeably larger than the last back massage i got 2-3 weeks earlier.
Do you think that you are getting some joint relief from the NPP?
Probably. I certainly do typically get some with it. It was the whole point of throwing it in the mix here at a lower dose.
That is some transformation! Round of applause. I’m sure some of the seasoned brainiac vets on here will give you decent advice. Best of luck with your cycle and continued progress.
Thanks bud, I appreciate it.