+ 1 Seriously cannot sleep. HELP ME please
Ok, I'm about halfway through a var cycle. 15mg ed, I'm never tired. It started a few weeks ago, I tried the simple remedies tea and herbals it worked once lol Then I moved on to OTC sleep aids, all worked for a night or two. Then I had my Doctor prescribe some ambeien it worked for about a week.
Now nothing works, and by nothing I mean doubling doses, killing myself on the bike/treadmill, reading boring books, taking a hot bath, NOTHING. Even after I wake up after a night of no sleep I'm not tired. To be perfectly honest, I feel like I'm on a light dose of ritalin. No shakes, but I'm overly alert.
This has to be stealing some of my gains. Plus I really want to sleep, I like sleep. 2 weeks ago I decided it might be diet so I gave up caffeine and sugar. I do not take any pre-workout or any stimulant of any kind. My diet is clean, my bedroom is dark and comfy. WTF is going on. I feel fine all day, just no sleep I go to bed at 10 fall asleep by 11ish but then wake up around 3am and it's all downhill from there.
Any ideas?
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you need to control cortisol, high dose vitamin c can help, if not im sure you can buy cortisol blockers.
Sounds scientific, I like that. Would I take it as a multivitimin daily? Bedtime or ??
Split VitC dose 3x daily due to it being water soluble the body cannot store it........ min 500mg 3x ED will help a lot and will also make you "harder" as it is a natural diuretic.
I will add this to my daily routine, V-C is pretty amazing. Thanks
Boom. Great advice. Many folks forget about Vit C and/or minimize it's usefulness. Proper dosing is key as well. Thanks for the reminder! +1
cortisol should concern everybody, it gets missed out alot, it is a major cause off insomnia, and after extensive research i beleive the cause of trensomnia also.
Yeah I really have no idea what cortisol is, I know it's a cream of some kind but I never realized it was in my body. Getting to the source of the problem is my goal I know the var plays a part but still I would rather not take massive doses of sleeping pills, though that's always my Dr.s answer lol
cortisol is a hormone produced by the adrenal glands ..top of kidneys.. its controlled hypothalamus in the brain, cortisol is released into your body when under stress, its main role involves increasing blood sugar levels and aid fat, protein and carb metabolisms, sides include, mental illness, insomnia, muscle wastage, high blood pressure, supressed immune system, no sex drive , fertiliy troubles in woman, hypotonic urine and many more, you see when we consume aas, the body gets confused and stressed inturn releasing cortisol, at night time they should be at there lowest as were winding down relaxing for bed, aas increase levels really high at night causing insomnia......im 90% sure this is your issue, search google for cortisol and insomnia then look for remidies, good luck.
Are you still taking the ambeien? I would probably stay away form that. I was reading an old post of Vike's and he said to take Taurine before bed. Sounds opposite right? I'll see if I can dig that up, or he may see this and elaborate. Do you run a fan in your room to keep it cool? Are you waking up hungry?
When it stopped working I stopped taking it. I have a fan for white noise, I always eat a protein shake and a banana before bed. There really seems to be no reason for it.
(http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/problems-sleeping-check....) found it.
Hmm, that might just be crazy enough to work. Where do you get that stuff?
And the link doesn't work, I read it last week
http://www.ebay.com/itm/151271177598?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3...
I get a lot of vitamins and stuff online. Much cheaper and no hassle of going shopping. Ebay has also got Taurine powder if you would rather have it instead of the capsules.
I love Ebay
Copy and paste the second link I did into your browser it will work. Where to get it, I would imagine anywhere that sells supps.
Wow, like GNC. I haven't been into one of those in ages.
lol, I use a1supplements.com better prices and selection.
It just makes me chuckle when the answer is something I can buy easy and legally lol
DCHI1link didn't work
i know just copy and paste in browser
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/problems-sleeping-check....
hunteron20sShit only thing I can think of is overtraining causes insomnia. Arent you taking hgh as well ? That should make you sleep like a rock ...
DCHI1I also take Semorlin/GHRP2 and yes, it def makes you sleep like a rock...still take the ZMA as well w/ it.
I am taking very little hgh, 1iu every few days. I don't like being bloated.
It might be overtraining. But what is considered too much lol I'm not too sore, I take about every 4th day off.
hunteron20sWell from my past experience when I worked out 5 to 6 days a week and hit 3 miles on the tread mill I had same problem.i wasnt getting sore but I wasnt getting stronger either .I took the weekend off and rested as much and it made the whirl of difference. .you only grow when at rest not while lifting.so rule of thumb you train more then you rest that is over training. .symptoms of overtraining is not doing #2 regularly swollen lip nodes and insomnia ..I hope this helps put you in the right direction
Sounds like I am overdoing it. I have a gym downstairs so even when I don't go to the gym, I go to the gym KWIM? I've also been doing a lot if HIIT on the bike lately. Thinking that more work would help me be tired. I guess what I really need to a break. Avoiding working out for two days in a row will not be easy! LMAO I'm that person now.
hunteron20sJust lay off the hiit for a week and do moderate cardio if needed.but yes it sounds like over training to me ..I work out 4 day split mon tue wed off thur fri weekends off and I sleep like a rock ..I am growing and leaning as well plus im off aas for a few months but taking up to 4 iu hgh a day ..you will figure it out very soon ..
DCHI1stealing GAINZ....NOOOOOOOOOO!
have you considered decreasing your dosage?
I've used ZMA for years on training days...# pills based on body weight usually. taken w/ large cup of H2o 30 min before bed works great. deep sleep, vivid dreams. If I take a shot of Nyquil w/ the ZMA, that works magic too.
but you went the prescription route and that stuff def should be working (I've used it)
I'm not sure what ZMA is I will google it.
Nyquil would work, so would whiskey I'll pass on both
I'd rather not lower my dose, I'll suffer through it before I do that.
DCHI1well..Nyquil + whiskey may be the key!