posted Wed, 03/28/2012 - 12:20
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Prop and Npp headaches
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Im on a prop and Npp cycle right now. I am on 5th week or so and the last 3 weeks I have been getting headaches everyday. my cycle is prop 100mg eod , Npp eod and 250mg of test E once a week.I am taking aromasin at 12.5mg per day also.
Anyone else get headaches from these compounds? I was thinking the aromasin would keep blood pressure down so maybe its from another reason?
They are real bad I take ibprofren and tylenol together just to knock it down some.They usually start around 5pm. I have had my Bp checked about 2 weeks ago but it was early in the day with no headache.
This is my first cycle with prop. I am thinking of droping it and switching to test E and EQ.
Thanks
Jprizzle
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I always get high BP when on cycle, causes killer headaches.
Best just to treat the BP headaches separately using hawthorn berry extract, this has been proven to reduce BP in human trials and works well.
If blood pressure is still high then you can use atacand.
I also check BP daily on cycle using an Omron 10 series plus BP monitor (these are good).
If you keep monitoring your BP and take hawthorn you should have no worries staying on the prop/npp.
If BP starts to go up increasing the hawthorn dose should fix it.
Ok so last night I switched to Kalpa test E and optimal EQ. I pinned 1cc of each in right glute. I had pip within an hour and woke up to my glute very swollen. This has never happend before. I have had pip but not this much swelling and I was using prop and Npp. This was my first time using Kalpa ive used optimal Eq before. there is no red spot and no heat so hopefully im good. I will pin a little bit of each seperately to see which one did this to me.
OE2000Yo prizz, gonna throw this out there, pollen! I live in the south and that shit covers cars, streets, everything. I've noticed on grass cutting days I get bad headaches, sneeze constantly and feel like crap. And last I checked, Im non allergic, so I feel sorry for ppl that are. But like everyone else said, keep BP in check, plenty of water.... but your problem could be something totally unrelated to gear.... keep us posted!
you could be right about the pollen.I live way north but the weather is pretty warm right now. my nose is also running a very little bit so maybe.
Thanks
I didn't even think of pollen. Tis the season. Good one OE!
Anonwater, cardio, yoga, meditation..
In addition to these recommendations, this asana might help.
You can search for paschimottanasana images, but do a variation where there is no strain on the hamstrings (or anywhere other than a pleasant back stretch)and the forehead is supported by something soft. A coffee table with a blanket might work, or a stack of blankets or pillows. You are not doing this for a hamstring stretch! Your face should be at least a foot above your thighs, use as much height as you need so it is not a hamstring stretch. Arms should be over head and supported on something like the coffee table / blanket. Stay there 5 minutes, more if it feels good.
This clams the sympathetic nervous system, rests the heart, normalizes blood pressure and heart rate, generally good for chronic headache. Regulates blood supply to endocrine glands, activating the adrenal glands, and relaxes the thyroid gland.
Personally, my headache went away when I started using T prop. A little strange, because if felt like a vascular headache and that should have made it worse.
Interesting!
I did bro. I stopped that run at 6 eeks. Well I didn't stop, I switched compounds mid cycle. Even when my bp was high, rehydrating helped the headaches. I always have a 32oz gatorade with me
I was hoping you would post. I think im gonna switch. The headaches are to painful to lift. It sucks though i have tons of prop. Guess i will use it for kickstarts
JP, maybe you can lessen the headache pain by mixing a little prop with your long ester. A make your own sust kinda move. If you have a lot it's a shame to let it go to waste. Jut pin maybe a 1/2 cc of your long ester every other day with a half cc of prop. Maybe it'll help the headaches but still give you it's benefits. And lots of Gatorade brother! Seriously. Hydration is so important
Yeah I will try to find a way to use prop still .I have about 15 vials of it so dont wanna give up yet. I drink about a gallon to a gallon and a half of crystal light a day so I think im hydrated.
Thanks
Wow! 15 vials? Lol. Doing it big? Yes, I would (I do) make my own Sus. It's helpful ,especially with the amount you have. Unless you shelf it and give it another go next time. Maybe just a front load and taper next run. I would probably be trying to bump some off to my boys as well. Lol
I didnt plan to use all 15 this go around. My stash just grows all the time.I dont even know how I accumulated so much gear. I think im a hoarder :)I may try mixing it with enth. how often do you pin that when you use it?
E3d. You can try it a different way but I think 50mg prop and 250 test e every other day will suffice. Assuming you're running it above 500mg A week. You said you were running 250mg test e currently. Are you changing that due to the fact you're no longer running the prop eod?It'll help you get rid of it and be somewhat useful. Hopefully no more headaches. And I know what you mean about hoarding. I'm becoming one. I'm ordering shit I don't need when I already have WAY more than I can use.
I planned on running NPP/Prop the entire cycle. I couldn't do it man. The headaches were moderate but controllable. My gains were awesome the first 6 weeks but I decided to drop both. Running a long ester test and tren for the duration. I'm going to cut this cycle short. Planned on 12 weeks but 3 more sounds about right. I've retained a ton of water which is uncommon for short esters. I did however run dbol for 4 weeks. I am not telling you to do as I did, but I feel a whole lot better. Tren is much more powerful than NPP and I don't get the headaches now. IMHO, tren is supperior to NPP. Besides, I need to clean up this water weight, lol. I feel like i'm gonna collapse after walking a half mile, WALKING! Let me know what you decide bro. I'm running 500mg of cyp and 500mg of test e EW along with 100mg tren a eod
Test p blows my bp up too. Drink tons of water, helps me sometimes
Get hold of a BP monitor so you can do it yourself as and when. Very cheap these days and worth having around