+ 1 PIP, really?
Alright so I keep seeing people ask people "what's the pip like" on this or that compound. And it's making me wonder WTF? The way I see it there is a time tested method for avoiding this altogether. I think if you do like most of us did and start with the lower mg per ml gear and build your injection sites up BEFORE you switch up to the heavy hitter shit, say 300mg/ml and above gear you won't have any problems. Let me see if I can make this a little clearer. You start out usin some testE or C at 250mg per ml 2x a week. Eventually you wanna run more gear so you jump up to running same shit but at 1.5ml 2x per week. Notice I didn't say jump up to 300mg/ml. Eventually your going to add in some other compounds and will end up pinning 2-3ml's 2x per week. You have taken time to build up some nice depot spots that are used to havering a high volume of lower dosed gear pushed into them and now you are ready for the heavy hitters! If you skip these steps of course your going to get some pip, your fault, not the gears.
Another thing is there is dif pip. If you pin slow you should be able to tell if you are even close to a nerve. Worst pip in the world is pushing to close to a nerve. If you start to feel some pain or get some twitching when you are inserting the needle you are close to a nerve. Pull the pin out a little, reangle and push the pin back in. If you are all in and starting to push the gear and then feel a little pain you are by a nerve and need to decide if you should continue or pull out halfway and again, reangle and finish.
If injection spot turns red it is most likely an allergic type reaction, take some fucking Benadryl!
If it is red and warm it may be an infection, dirty bastard, learn to sterilize! And take some antibiotics, may want to see a dr as well.
If you don't go deep enough, expect some discomfort, your fault.
There are a lot of people on here that will tell you what they do to keep from getting pip, warm the oil, cut the oil, go slow, rub site after, take a hot shower after... But it comes down to good hygiene, sterilization, and experience.
Now get out there and learn to pin!
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I don't disagree with you, but there are definitely different levels of PIP and even with the lower doses you will most definitely feel it to some degree. Especially as a noob. And then there is Test P which depending on the day and the muscle can burn you a little.
Agreed, see below.
Agreed, see below.
I'm going to throw in my .02 on this. Pip can also be caused from the body absorbing the carrier oil before the hormone itself. When this happens the hormone returns to its original state which is crystallized. (Look at crashed gear) Now those crystal will attach to the muscle and feel like shards if glass in the muscle. I've had it happen several times. I hear my gear up with a hair dryer and roll the barrel making sure the oil Marone heated evenly. After injections apply a heating pad if possible. I've even worked the muscle that I injected in after pinning. ie: pinned my rear delts and then train back or shoulders.
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Your mom has a nice one. Taste pretty good too.
Ace VenturaOooo, you're cheating
Thank you Aceie! For once I think you kinda had my back!
Andromeda is Aces' mom?
Hahaha! +1for that one homie!
Ace VenturaI wish. J/k, I shouldn't say that, I love my mom.
AND you don't love me???
Agree 100%, my point is to start out with lower dosed long esters and give your injection sites time to stretch and scar. Not just jump in to ace, prop and high dosed compounds.
That's what I did to get my pecs ready for my taper out. I've beaming pinning EQ and cyp into my pecs to try and get them ready for my test prop, mast prop and NPP. Baby steps.;-)
EXACTLY!
You said it much better than I did bro.
Good advice, it should be common sense.
Not to hijack your thread but I have a question. I'm currently running my first cycle and have an injection coming up today in my right glute. I still have slight pip there from last week, it just feels kinda sore if I push down on the site. You don't think it'll hurt anything to pin the site again anyways right? I'm not worried about pip, but I was in the same situation 3 days ago when I pinned my left glute, and last week, but I just said fuck it and hit the same sites anyways. Pinning a different site is clearly the best choice, but if that is not an option am I going to have 5 inches of scar tissue built up by the end of my cycle if I keep this up?
I can't honestly say since I don't know exactly how you feel. But why not just hit a delt? You should wait at least 7 days before hitting same site, generally speaking I won't hit a spot that already has pain. Delts are easy as fuck to pin.
It's been 7 days so I think I'll be fine, my muscles are taking their sweet time to adjust I guess.. I tried pinning delts last time and I jabbed myself 3 times but I couldn't aspirate without twisting the needle like it was a fucking lever so I just went back to the left glute. I thought I'd go back and try delts again after I get some 5/8 or 1 inch needles, all I got right now is these 1.5s. It's a stupid question but I thought I should ask before I pin it anyways.
waltri pin EOD and rotate quads/glutes with a 1.5 inch fully into both
Ace VenturaGood post brother. And congrats on the Level 1!
Thanks buddy, hit me up if you ever make it around Houston, wana have a drink with you!
Ace VenturaShit, I'm actually planning on moving south by next winter, but more east than Texas. I can't wait to get down there though.