Hey Press,

I PMed you on this in greater detail...let me know what you think!

Guru or Pro the only concern someone using the service be it a customer or yourself is that they have the qualifications/certifications and EXPERIENCE worth while paying for the service.

Many guru's have wasted peoples money that I've heard but I know that many Pros (Pro BB) have done worse because they simply are just good athletes not coaches. Even Shawn Rhoden didn't have a clue about "basic blood work" and why he nearly died during the year he won his Sandow.

This was in article/interview where he spoke about having not real idea about doing blood work and keeping tabs on his own body and not knowing why he was feeling horrible. This is a MR. O!

I'm sure many Pros and Elite Amateur athletes do a far better job these days but frankly put, I've spoken to far to many in the past/present that wing it more often than letting blood work and getting to know there body better when it feels off, that they are not the first ones I would rush to for almost any advice.

If you just want to know their compounds used for cycle that is not hard for them to tell you but if you ask them what their blood work is like before, during and after you'll likely be disappointed with the answer.

From a "Online PT" perspective what works for them is not likely going to work for the masses much less even some who are athletes. This is where certifications/specializations come into play along with experience on training people one on one and/or group training.

Online Group Training can be very lucrative but most have not really tapped into it with a very high level of success because it does have other aspects that are very different than in person services.

Like anything else, you are better off starting asap and fixing/updating things along the way that makes it easier to sell/offer the service to clients as well as improves the user experience. Waiting to find the perfect online software, video streaming system, payment system will take time and YOU are the best person to use and try out what you already have access to and going from their in improving it.

The reality of the situation is this..."if you are personable, can connect with various demographics and have a strong background in personal/group training you can do very well" and it is because people pay for YOU not necessarily the specific program.

YOU are the connection to those people and if you can do so in a fun, intelligent but inviting manner that offers safe and effective training, whether you do it in person or in front of a camera you are creating VALUE. Value worth paying for.

Personally prefer the in person experience for athletes as they need far more attention be it group or private training and I think the same way for private training for regular fitness enthusiasts because they are paying more for that individual attention.

However, online there is someone always ready to do a workout that is safe, fun and produces results at ANY given hour of the day. This makes setting your schedule easier since you have anyone with internet access as a potential client rather than just within your geographical area.

I won't usually train any clients prior to 10am anymore. Unless you're willing to pay premium price

I simply like to get more sleep in, a couple meals and do whatever computer work needed in the morning so 10am it is.

However, one of the reasons I am also going to be implementing a new Online Live/Recorded Video Training service are for these reasons.

• Its 5am-8am somewhere in the world even when it is 10am-4pm for me! Finding those who want to do early morning group/private training is easy when your client base is anywhere in the world.

• Likely going to focus on group training via Online Video Training since it will be: less expensive per client (with an unlimited client base per class), more clients trained at one time with a similar goal and the programs will be with limited exercise equipment (based on what clients will have access to at home) which is cheaper plus no added overhead.

• Unlimited clients using the Online Group Model. The average rate for Online Video Training $25-$60/hr for one client but rest assured most will have very high expectations for private training (as they should) than in a group format for training. This higher price tag/hr limits your client base to those who can afford it.

If you offer Group Training on Live Video format you can dramatically reduce the price anywhere from $5-$50 (you can do less or more) and with just a small number of clients being trained at one time the numbers say, you can make far more per hour. ie: $10/hr x 10 Clients = $100 and they will likely be able to afford 2-4 sessions a week with you. Not many areas in the country can you get a client to pay $100/hr for 3x a week totally $1200/4weeks.

Now look at that $10/hr per client with the potential of Unlimited clients...realistically probably 50-100 at one time is possible as you grow your brand and more people are interested in paying for YOUR personality and training expertise. $500-$1000/hr is achievable (I've done 250 people group seminars/training in another industry) because you have no space limitations other than how many your streaming video provider allows. Some streaming providers will be free while others at a cost which will offer greater options to service your clients.

Just my thoughts.

Goodluck!
Try it with realistic expectations. It may take a couple years to get it built up..

If u use or pay for coaching, I'd only accept Pro's, their knowledge is way better than from any "guru", and u support him during this hard time if u use his service.

You’d be good at it bro. Regarding hours, more than you ever expected probably. But like anything the longer you do it the faster and more efficient you get. Just take the same approach to your coaching you do to your training and you’re guaranteed to improve.

Just curious Press is this just curiosity on your part or are you considering doing some coaching yourself?

I have a coach so I will tell you what he has done. He has spent around the last 6 years proving his knowledge via his social media accounts, basically having very in-depth explanations of the reasoning behind everything he does in terms of training, eating, and recovery.
From there he consistently reaches out to new people, trying to start conversations organically over social media or the gym talking about working out and showing people his knowledge via those conversations. Then he sets up a free consultation where he explains his training process, how he can help you, and why you should hire him over someone else. It basically boils down to a 10-3-1 rule, for every ten people he talks to he gets 3 initial meetings, and 1 new client.
From there he also has his clients post their sets for form checks via social media, this allows him to quickly critique their form but also forces his clients to tag him, thus expanding his exposure. He also ask his clients if they have anyone who might be interested in coaching, and then ask the client to refer him
As for a living my coach currently charges $165 a month which is very reasonable for his level of coach. He does this because he is trying to win the numbers game and get enough clients to sign on to build an actual income. If he has 40 clients he gets an income of 79k (pre tax) which is very nice.
As for time it varies depending on if someone has a show coming up or not. Typically he does one check in a week where he watches a video check in and simply goes over diet, weight, training, sleep, and any other concerns and alters the workout plan or diet accordingly. For competition this check in process happens more frequently