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Oil heating for PIP

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I just started using the kalpa test after my iranian amps and the stuff is excellent strong stuff but the PIP I get from it is so bad. Never had the problem on amps. So I read that warming up the oil helps along with slow injections. What would be the best steps to heating up the oil as I have never done it before? How long, what temp etc....when wind hits the spot I feel all my nerves pinch PAIN

racer50's picture

I use one of those microvable heat pad (called Bed Buddy). Throw it in the microwave for 1.5 to 2 min.
It stays nice warm amd moist for awhile. Just lay vial and/or loaded syringe on it and does a nice job get oils just right.

popeboy1's picture

I had to heat up the kalpa test too as well as the veyron prop, what I do is fill a tall plastic cup with hot tap water, put it in the the microwave for 1-1:30 mins , put the syringe filled with oil in the the hot cup of water for 5 minutes (after microwaving) then it will be ready to be injected. I have been using this method for well over a year and it works wonders.

subs33's picture

Daang..sorry to here that..I guess now would be the time to take bidsal's advice.

subs33's picture

Try this..load up the pin and let hot water run over the barrel of the pin with the lid on. Tip the pin at an angle so hot water goes directly on the barrel and none on the tip. Run it under your tub spout..its got more volume. Kinda roll the pinn with your finger tips. Shake it. and repeat. do it for about 2 to 4 mins. Inject superslow and give a deep massage after...I jump on the treadmill directly after. If you dont have a home treadmill, then maybe time it before ya workout at the gym so you can use thiers..

Also, a heatpad works really really good. If you pinned the glute, then lay your ass right on the heatpad, right where the depot was.. set to medium and fall asleep.. or set it high and massage with the heatpad..

Sleeping with the heatpad on is to your discression...along with all my sugestions..enjoy

bigsal69's picture

Kappa had a bad batch of the test-e. U should contact ur source and get a refund/replace i had the same problem.till Kappa got involved.

subs33's picture

He said its excellent stuff..I would try technique before contacting kappa or bugging the src. Because his excellent testosterone has pip..

BigJ-roll's picture

I have been doing the in the sink with really warm water then I spin I hand and it has helped test/deca 350 2ml at a time pain was tremendous not any more!!! No more. PIP!

Juicin14's picture

i use a hair dryer to heat mine up, but prop is the only one i have ever HAD to heat up. i heat it up in the vial not the syringe btw. i inject slowly anyways. as far as temp goes, i get the vial as hot as i can, because the glass has to get hot in order for the oil to get hot.

jprizzle's picture

Some gear just hurts some people more. I can inject prop in my quads with minor pip. That kalpa test e though cripled me and caused major swelling,no redness or heat though. Its just something in it that our bodies don't like. I have talked to a few people who used the kalpa from the same source and had no problems.

jprizzle's picture

Nope. I only pinned about 3 times then I stoped using it. Heating the oil isn't gonna help at all when it swells you up and hurts that bad to start. Mine was causing swelling even cut with 1.5cc of eq that has 0 pip.

7gothic's picture

Oil-heating is good......but heating-oil is even better. Sure, it's expensive, and goes up when gas prices are high, but that shit is smoooooooth.
It gives me a headache sometimes though.

adonis_1's picture

I buy mine in bulk. I keep mine hidden in my basement where it actually stays pretty cool. Never had an issue here.

7gothic's picture

uuummmmm......I'll be right back. I have to go make a call.

T_luva's picture

Ethyl Oleate (EO) is used in place of Cottonseed oil or grapeseed oil.... or maybe mixed 50/50. I stay away from it cause I must be allergic to it.... swelling, redness, itchy rash type stuff..... NEVER have this problem with CSO or GSO based gear, hope this helps!

fast48's picture

Ethyl oleate....no pain type of oil. Read your label

carpejohn's picture

I thought kalpa uses EO for oil?

fast48's picture

Yess!! Safest syringe method. Another person on here likes microwave.

fast48's picture

Microwave is sound in superhigh frequencies. No radiation or you'd be eating irradiated foods. I prefer the heated vial or hot pad method.

fast48's picture

Under faucet....hot as faucet goes til slightly warm. Don't want HOT oil in body as that Burn s. Painful juice is best in glutes. Slow inject....glutes have less nerves. Check injection sites on forums so you're properly rotating.

fast48's picture

Side note.....VIAL ONLY if you use water method. Don't need a sterile pin getting some crud.