+ 8 Nandrolone Decanoate (the facts)
I see a deca dick post every week so i decided to help out
here The reason why so many people get deca dick:
Deca or Nandrolone Decanoate is s a 19-Nor compound steroid. It has a low aromatizing rate to estrogen but its progestin. Being a progestin mean that the Deca that doesnt attach to the receptors aromatizes to progesterone. Deca also has been show to increase progesterone receptors by as much as 20%. Nandrolone had been shown to raise prolactin higher than regular aromatising steroids, however there is no research done on this, so why does deca raises prolactin is still unknown. Ironically Progestins such as tren and deca are supposed to regulate prolactin but they increase it for what ever reason. However there have been studies that show an increase of estrogen increases prolactin.
Increases in progesterone show an increase in estrogen.
An increase in Prolactin shows an a decrease in testosterone.
An increase in estrogen can cause gyno, and also causes loss of libido.
An increase in prolactin cause ED and loss of libido & milky tits
An increase in estrogen increases prolactin
in short estrogen and progesterone play a prominent role in the production of prolactin.
So if u can control estrogen then u can prevent gyno and deca dick.
if after cycle, the user find himself ED with normal prolactin, then odds are the estrogen is high.
So what is the moral of the story
Always use caber & vitex and Al to with deca or u ll end up with deca dick. also large doses of deca will result in progestrone problems, so dose wisely, more is not always better.
Always keep the dose of test to deca 2:1
all of my research is backed up by actual journals and research based off universities. If ur in doubt ask and i will paste the links to them.
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"all of my research is backed up by actual journals and research based off universities. If ur in doubt ask and i will paste the links to them."
Please cite the literature for these "facts":
Always keep the dose of test to deca 2:1
An increase in Prolactin shows an a decrease in testosterone (is this a decrease in natural testosterone levels or a decrease on serum levels with exogenous testosterone)
Always use caber & vitex and Al to with deca or u ll end up with deca dick... Really. I've never once had deca dick and just keep caber around. Not once have I actually taken the shit.
I love it when u talk dirty;-)
I agree bro a lot of people make blanket statements that may not work for everyone. The great part of this thing we do is the fact that its different for everyone. What works for me may not work for u and vice versa. The knowledge and experience factor is huge in how we are able take our sides and either combat them with ancillaries or for some a tweak of dosages gets rid of those same sides.
AnonGreat post, thanks.+1
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I think if you stay nice and low with your doses you should be ok!
Thanks for the post, got a friend that will be using deca on his next cycle so this answers a lot of questions.
+1 aswell mate.. good info and facts
Pramipexole is the best option,
Ive run north of 1500mg deca per week, after a 2500mg frontload, no deca dick, ever...
Deca and tren also affect dopamine in the brain.. Pramipexole off sets this quite easily, even on a low dose (0.5mg ED), Its cheap too.
I think the 2:1 ratio is a load of horse shit though..
Plenty of people out the who cant tolerate moderate-high dose testosterone, so they use higher doses of deca, primo, tren ect, popular in europe I believe?
Basically they use a TRT dose of test.. and go higher on the "anabolics"..
Regular Blood work and the appropriate ancillary`s will get you sorted, rather than just upping the test and hoping it works..
Just my opinion on it though...
I rate deca highly, and use it almost year round... Everything works good down stairs ;)
It has been reported that prolonged use of pramipexole can cause DAWS (dopamine agonist withdrawal syndrome) which can result in protracted anhedonia, among other symptoms.
Isnt that only in groups being treated with L-DOPA and with parkinsons?
Its been approved off label by the FDA for "restless legs syndrome" at the dose i suggested.
Also used for those with "post SSRI sexual dysfunction syndrome" aswell.
HOLY shit, 1500? Why what what your goals/ gains?
dont do what I do mate....
hahaha, size is the goal mate.. lots of it ;)
good info, appreciate ur input, will look into the 2:1 ratio more
I believe its an individual thing with nandrolones mate...
Their main negative effects are more linked to dopamine, Dopamine plays a role in drive, reward, motivation ect.. but also in the production of prolactin/progesterone...
Alot of atypical anti-psychotics (dopamine antagonist), cause a raise in prolactin, high enough to cause gyno in young men!
Most state in the leaflet that "lactating nipples" is a severe side effect...
Lack of sleep can cause erectile disfunction aswell..
+1 ! Completely fills in what was questioned
Thank you for this post, it should help some people out for sure! I'd note that cabergoline is more expensive than gear itself.
look into vitex