+ 2 My estrogen is at 1789....advice needed *UPDATED!!
Im sorry to make another post about this but I'm not getting a ton of help so I need to reach out. Title says it, I got my total estrogens checks at week 5-6 of my cycle and it was already up to 1789. I felt depressed and anxious and my libido was going down so I knew something was up. And my estro is way up. Now heres the issue...this is not the first time this has happend. Last cycle, no bullshit, my estrogen totals reach 9000. So something is going on in my body to cause everything to turn to estrogen. This in the end will completely hinder my gains. I have been hitting letro and exem to drop my levels and do feel a bit better. Even my doctor did not know how to advise me and said he has never even heard of 1789 estrogen. He literally told me to come onto my forums and seek a doctor that also takes gear. Some help that was.
Wtf could be going on with me?? Someone that I have been PMing with made a good point, could I be having a bad reaction to exemestane? I never used to take bloods during cycle so I dont know what my levels used to be like, but never felt the need to, I always felt great. But I also always used anastrozole rather than exemestane. Im using compound that I have used in the past with great success so I dont think its that. I am going to take a blood test again this week to see if my levels are dropping, but right now i am dosing 25mg exem ED and 1.25-2.5 letro ed. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Stats:
25
5'10
195
9-10% bf
3-4 years cycling
Current Cycle:
Test cyp 700 mg
Deca 500mg
Dbol 1-4 30mg
proviron 25 mg
HGH 5iu ED
AIs listed above.
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AnonSome douchebag have you a thumbs down at the bottom. I see absolutely nothing wrong with this thread.
Gave you a +1
UFODidnt notice but I do appreciate the +1, thanks.
Muscleg33ki did the same. +1
UFOGood news guys!!! My E2(estradial) is now at 18.8!! so the letro crushed my estrogen! pretty happy about that, U think ill cut the letro back to .25 eod and the exem at 6.25-12.5 eod. Sound like a good dose?
I agree it's prob the deca, I dropped deca years ago. No labido probs anymore. Try dropping the deca out for 4-6 weeks and retest your estrogen levels. U can narrow it down that way
You could also give Caber a try. Maybe your body will react better to a diff compound
I can run 7-800mg test and be fine w no ancillaries but I use Aromasin just to be safe and keep estrogen at bay
Personally u should also try dropping the dball. It's pretty harsh also. Switch over to a other injectable w the Test
Maybe try Test Cyp and Eq
As with me it was all trial an error to which compounds work best for me. Now I stick to only tests, primo. Masterone proviron Aromasin With a good diet with just above listed in can reach contest shape no prob. In about 8-10 weeks.
The good thing is ur gettig ur levels checked and being safe in that regard.
AnonI remember your old labs and that 9000 number. No offense but ur a freak. I think that ur rate of Aromatization is abnormally fast. Lesson to be learned here? U need to run ur AI from wk1-2. For every cycle. We have talked before bro. Hit me up on PMs please. I'm not some noob. Ill explain what i mean in pms. I know more about this shit than most here. Pct and AI is what I'm known for around these parts. Trust me
UFOYea I think that about sums it up. Never seen estro issues like mine. Dont remeber ur old user name but ill hit u on PM...
set him straight sexy.
your deca is way to high. drop the deca to half the dose or less of your test. so if your running 500mg test run 250 or under of deca. this will make your estro sky high. also keep in mind the more test you put in yourself the higher your estro will get. rememver estrogen is a byproduct of test. get some letro, or jump your aro to 25mg a day for a few days till you feel the estro getting low than creep back the dose till you feel your sweet spot
UFOIve been doing that homie, Im hitting letro and exem at the moment and yea I def feel the impovement. But you really think 500mg of deca is a high dose?? Hell Ive run 2 previous cycles of deca that were equal to the amounts of test I took and I never had an estrogen problem...thats why Im questioning the exemestane.
if you look around through some of my threads, i have ran deca pretty much every cycle i run, this one through is the first time i had sides from it. came out of no where and was bad. yes running deca at more than half your test level dramatically increases the likely hood of sides. after this experience i had, i wont run deca unless its 2:1 ratio. better to be safe than regret your new boobies lol
The obvious question is are u positive your ai are legit? Can your doc prescribe you some pharma letro and aromasin to take to verify? If that has already been done or you are sure your AI is legit, then it could be prolactin from the deca. Get some pharma caber, prami, bromo, ect..to get that under control. Take bloods to see where u are. Are you experiencing any gyno sides? That is extrememly high e2.
UFOI did have gyno sides at the begining, just a sore nip and tiny lump, went away in a few days with the letro. AI is def legit its from PP on here and I have used them in the past with great success along with hundreds of other members. As for the prolactin I WAS taking caber but it completely suppressed my porlactin so I dropepd it. And pharma grade letro or aromasin is literally $700 for 30 pills so I cant do that. Thats whats crazy about all this is I really dont see sides, even at 9000 I only had a loss of libido. Right now its just bad ass mood swings
WithdrawlAre you confident in your source for aromasin as far as quality goes? It just seems like the aromasin isn't working at all.
UFOYes, its PP from on here, nothing but great labs and I have used them in the past with great results
AnonI could be wrong but woundn't a caber help since he is running DECA. DECA is a estrogen base steroid so maybe even dropping the DECA to 350 which is half of what the test is so you got more test going in then estrogen.
I would ask some one with more knowledge on these compounds the little I know is through research and asking ?. Hope you can find a solution to your problem.
UFOyea verything you said is wrong, caber has nothing to do with estrogen it its a prolactin suppresant that you run with deca becuase deca jacks up ur prolactin
AnonStick with the Letro and drop the aro. At least that's what I would do. U don't want to crash the estro so fast ur body can't find itself.
Brother u also should pyramid the Letro. Did u just jump into 1.5mg then bump up to 2.5mg? Try Nd not go from one extreme to the other. Ur body works best when it's allowed the time to regulate and adjust to the fluctuation. Letro needs to be tapered up and maintain top dose for a week past ur desired result then tapered down again. At that time u can add the Aromasin back in.
So were u using Aromasin while on cycle and ur high estro came about while using Aromasin? If so Aromasin is not for u.
UFOI started my AI too late...like week 4-5 and saw a small sign of gyno, and then the mood swings. Then I started the AIs so I cant directly blame the aro
Whats your cycle?
UFOSorry ill post it up now...