+ 5 Making the decision to drop tren
This was one of the tougher decisions I've made in my life. I've added 20 pounds+ stage weight in one year. I've been running 700mg tren ace for 10'weeks now and the last two have been unbearable. Been able to sleep, night sweats are tolerable. I've been the biggest asshole ever, especially to my undeserving fiancé. Anxiety is borderline uncontrollable for the last two weeks. I've transformed my physique significantly. I've added new muscle while dieting for my show. But all at the cost of losing myself in the process. I won't say I'm the nicest guy in the world year round, but I know when I've lost control of the way I act and behave and can no longer control my behaviors ALL the time. Sometimes I'm great. Sometimes I'm not. With three weeks left to go not much is going to change. Tren is not worth my family and my sanity, and either is some stupid bodybuilding show. It's not nationals. I urge anyone taking the plunge to reassess what they really want. Because a lot of things have suffered this run. And it's not my first time with tren either. There's numerous other compounds out there to experiment with before you make the decision to run tren. And trust me, if you are running tren and this shit starts consuming you, a real man will know what's most important at the end of the day.
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I believe what goth say's. A little bit of good bud goes a long way. I almost knocked my coworkers teeth out this morning at work because he took my roll of toilet paper home thinking it was his for some reason, even though I hid it from him. I poop a lot and when I had to go this morning and there was no tp I almost lost it. Well thank god I work at an indoor horticulture store and smoking bud is the norm around my parts so one toke and I was good again. Also I take lexapro when I start feeling emotionally unstable. I find this is the only drug that doesn't make me feel like shit and doesn't ruin my appetite. btw im only doing 400-500 mg of tren E, 750mg test, and 500mg equipoise.
juiceinatorI'm a former heroin and crack addict smoking weed is not an option for me. But for you guys that can puff away.
The worst thing about tren is the way it gradually takes a grip on you, and the truth is you dont even realize how bad it is till you come off. After a few days I could just feel the tension leave my body a little more everyday.
I-Omegacouldn't have said it better myself. Tren is great, but it comes with a cost.
Dirty doper lol. I do the same thing only I have to keep it to a minimum otherwise I'll eat the fucking door off the refrigerator. I'm talking a whole block of velvet cheese and a six pack of diet mt dew. Not the best thing for you.
The common thread for most of us is that we all seem to be assholes to a certain extent regardless of what compounds we run. That just comes with the territory of the game we play. Any time you put forth the level of self discipline and dedication this lifestyle requires, there's gonna be a certain level of arrogance and self-centeredness associated. Tren will make you a little quicker on the drawl, can cause nasty mood swings, and can turn you into someone you didn't even know existed. Generally thats hardest on those around us, which unfortunately are usually the ones we love and care about the most. I'm a prick. Always have been. Life as a kid was very unfair and those issues have carried themselves into my adulthood in the form of aggression and anxiety. I stay on Celexa year round. Keeps me level and the anxiety issues to a minimum. Off cycle I take 20mg daily. On cycle, Tren or not, I bump that up to 40mg daily. It's really helped keep things on a much more even keel for me. I rarely have emotional issues while running tren now. That's what works for me. It's taken about three years to find the right medication and dosage to put me in this position. but I think that for anyone running Tren, or any other compound for that matter, maybe that's something worth looking into. It cost me $1 a month for the Celexa. For me, there's really no excuse not to take it.
juiceinatorYea my med insurance ran out so I had to sell 50 of my 90 pills to pay mr dr and for my script
Yeah insurance picks up a bunch on my meds. I simply can't run Tren without it though. I'm at week 10 right now. Only had one incident this whole cycle that caused me to go the fuck off and that likely would have happened Tren or not. A lot of guys stick with 8-10 weeks tops with Tren. Might be something to consider for next time. Good luck bro. Hope everything works out.
I've never ran tren before but I've got 3x25ml tren a and 1x25ml tren e sitting in my cupboard for some far off cycle. This thread and a few others make me want to bin it. Is it that bad? I used to be a nob on test alone but I've learnt to deal with it. Is tren the same, can you 'learn' to deal with it?
I don't claim to know everything about tren but I have ran it a couple times. Last year I was going through a similar situation. Cut the dose down and the sides are easier to control. Rite now I'm running 100mg eod and the sides arent as bad.
bimmere92i'm running the same dose as you, 100mg ED which is 700mg a week. my friend who knows exactly what im on (test and tren) says i seem more laid back but he doesnt know whats going on inside my head. i feel as though i am calmer and i think this comes from the increased self confidence. i seem to be the few who can handle tren very well but some things are beyond your control, like the mood swings and essentially how you feel on the inside. i feel aggressive, at times depressed, miserable, hopeless, but generally about 80% of the time im just a more confident me. good luck dude
juiceinatorI felt like that until week 9. Good luck brother.
Cost me my first marriage bro! lost the house and loads of other stuff took me around 5 yrs to get my shit back together,cant just blame the tren it was the whole competition lifestyle for me it just didnt rub being so self centred and egotistic,i had to change when i look back i must have been a fucking nightmare to live with,hardest lesson ever in my life but hopefully i am a better person now.
After being around the show circuit lately again after much debate with suze i have finally decided to compete again! this time will be different has we are both fully emerged into BB and competing,different mindset this time so lets see what the future brings,will be looking to be back in the thick of it early next year.
Get a grasp on what is REALLY important bro... My girl hit the bricks on me last summer during a tren cycle... Now I'm kind of a dick in the first place but had no real grasp at how bad I had actually gotten until I came off
juiceinatorIt creeps up on you. You start to think its them that's just doing shit to irritate you. But the response to that is never the way it is on tren, even if people were intentionally trying to piss me off. Ahit just rolls off my shoulder. I think 4 week blasts I might tolerate in the future but I'm not touching this bullshit until my life situation is sorted out. Until then I'm gonna stick with my bread and butter cycles. And none of them include tren.
Tren has such a bad reputation its a shame! Cows use it rite up to their death and you never hear them complain their too sweaty, or start fights cause one cow cut the other cow off in the shoot heading for lunch! I agree with 7Gothic regarding how you view things and your perception. To me Tren is like alcohol, too much and your inner voice becomes your outer voice. It gets you acting on things that you are thinking but your societal brain (inhibition) usually keeps you from acting upon! Just like now, you know your not acting rite, use the determination that has got you where you are to control those actions. Personally, when I feel myself getting overly "whatever"(Its jealousy for me) the first thing I do is tell myself to "Shut the fuck up, Its the Tren!" If you don't have anything fucked up going on, the Tren has nothing to exaggerate out of control except you muscles! Good Luck!
I'm running several short-estered compounds right now and Tren is one of them. I don't run any long-estered Tren due to the fact that I cannot "escape" it quickly if I need to.
At any rate, I am literally a time-bomb right now. Almost every day I am in someone's face or looking for a confrontation. Not starting shit----but WISHING someone else would. Road-rage incidents are happening almost daily.
Yesterday was another meltdown, and I MUST get a handle on this RIGHT NOW.
I think the key is to change how you VIEW things----your perception. Until you do that, you're not home free...at least not completely.
I'm not advocating drug use to anyone, but I have found a toke or two of some good bud to be enormously helpful. After yesterday, Grrrl said she is going to keep an emergency joint in her purse.
56tooYou must be really young for this to be one of the toughest decisions you've ever had to make. If you think that was tough, stick around!! On a more serious note you bring up some good points, some food for thought for those who find themselves where you're at. It sounds as if you're about to lose your fiance, I hope you didn't pin that tren one too many times. Good luck bro
juiceinatorNo putting down a crackpipe and heroin syringe was tougher. Stopping tren 3 weeks out from my show was a tough decision for me. I've been around long enough to know what's worth it in life and this is not. I'm not about to lose my fiancé but I've put her through more than anyone should because of this. Now I can blame this all on the tren but it certajnly enhances any tendencies you have. And running tren while
Going through a tough time in life financially is not a good idea either. Too many circumstances to talk about but tren has certainly aggravated them in my head.
I feel ya bro. Puttin down the syringe from heroin an coke, was Deff the hardest thing ive ever done. Some people dint understand it because they don't kno how it is. Shit is TOUGH! I hope I'm never stupid enough to pick it up again. One day at a time
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What? You didn't like being curled up in a fetal position for a week crying like a baby with anguish and pain?
juiceinatorOh its great times especially when you've detoxed yourself over 40 times. Anyone who thinks battling heroin and crack is easy has never been there. And that's why I made the "tough" as I say decision to discontinue tren on my current cycle. It is to reminiscent of the horrible mental thoughts I would have when I was using. I'm not saying I'll never run it again. But not at this dose and not for this long. And if I feel myself slipping mentally as a result of it I will drop it once again and give it to someone who enjoys that shit. And like goth I always run ace for situations like this.
40 times?!
You're a tougher man than me; I don't think I'd survive a second time.
juiceinator40 times. Cold turkey at least half of them. Then right back 3-4 days after I felt "normal"