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If you could only use 2 supplements to help recovery and aid training or Vitamins/cycle supports what would they be? By cycle supports I mean things such as Cod liver oil, TUDCA etc. I realise its quite a tough one to decide but it also gives an idea as to how important health is to people over training supps also.
My choice would have to be Whey Isolate and Creatine, with BCAA's coming in just behind.
I know its not long since my last forum post but as not many new ones are currently going up I thought I'd try keep people active and entertained and that it would be an interesting discussion
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creatine monohydrate and electrolytes
Casein and tudca would be the 2 i wouldn’t want to live without.
Whey ProteinIsolate, and Creatine! So many other good ones it is hard to choose!
If we're talking brand for our protein supps are we agreement that optimum nutrition gold standard whey is the way to go?
I'm open to other suggestions..
StevebNo that protein sucks and you can get better for less money
https://proteinfactory.com/product/native-whey-protein-concentrate-5-lbs/
https://proteinfactory.com/product-category/best-protein-powders/
I've always found Gold standard fairly awkward to digest, stomach bloating/nausea etc due to the concentrate and soy proteins in it. I use to love Reflex Intant whey Pro with all the flavours they did and the added digestive enzymes in it, but then moved onto Bulkpowders Iso 97 purely because it was so much cheaper - although now its virtually the same as the Reflex so makes no difference really. It is much thinner though and digests rapidly to you are ready to eat within an hour.
Typically I've only recently bought a new tub of optimum protien but I'll look into reflex next time I buy some.
I currently use a scoop and a half, mixed with around 300ml of milk, it goes down well and digests well, having a fast metabolism may help there. I used to use a lot of bulk type supps so most protein shakes always feel thinner and easier to get down.
One bulker I used previously had oats in it, if you left it a bit before drinking it, it would turn to a porridge consistently it was hard to drink, could of eaten it with a spoon lol.
There is no soy in ON's Gold Standard Whey.
This was 3/4 years ago. The Soy Lecithin thats in it still may cause the same sides as normal soy protein does, not sure. Never knew what that was before now.
AnonI pick a very powerful multi vitamin (unless I have the option to pick all my vitamins individually because I prefer that) and joint supp(s).
I take all my vitamins individually in amounts based on the results of blood work/comprehensive metabolic panel and knowledge I've acquired about vitamins. I highly value vitamins and know how big of a difference they can make for me. Vitamin absorption rates are pretty important too, a lot of people are just passing a lot of what's in muti vitamins, they should crush them up and mix them with water imo.
As an athlete, (not gonna elaborating on that) what I do and have done for a long time is hell on joints and I crack and pop like an old ass man. If I don't take joint supps it's very noticeable.
I can get a good amount of BCAA's, protein, and creatine from my diet, so picking them over vitamins and joint supps wasn't even a thought for me.
I have to count whey as a food, not a supplement, since it’s just a macro in powdered form. With that in mind, creatine monohydrate and daily beta alanine would be it.
As far as “support” stuff like fish oil and TUDCA, I eat a very heart and liver healthy diet so that I don’t require these things in the first place. Wild caught salmon, lots of different nuts, an assortment of berries, cruciferous veggies, olive oil, chia seed, hemp hearts, lots of fiber, oh, and lots of black coffee, which is one of the finest liver protectants Mother Nature has ever made ;) supps can’t compete with the real thing! And sometimes what one doesn't take in is more important than what one does insofar as health, referring to the abstinence from or at least the very responsible moderation of alcohol and narcotics
Alphamale500When it comes to training supplements, the two I would choose are whey protein and BCAA's. And regarding dietary health supplements it would be very hard for me to pick just two, but they would be fish oil/omega 3's and milk thistle extract.
Protein powders and bcaa's
True OTC supplements would be Whey Isolate and Metamucil
Protein powder and milk thistle. I get enough omegas from my diet and most protein powders are packed with vitamins so that would take care of my multivitamin too.
Whey and a multivitamin....you guys should check out Miracle 2000....cheesy name, badass product.
Bcaas, protein.
CoQ10 and B complex.
But all this would be un necessary if you eat some organs from grass fed animals. Like heart and liver.
What and creatine
Protein powders.. and I’m split between Taurine for those debilitating back pumps or psyllium husk for those easy toilet stops.
For the record I always enjoy members contributions which keep the site fresh.. apart from roidvisor on the news section.
Whey and creatine!
Creatine and beta-alanine
Tell me Mak - Are you a fan of Electrolyte powder at all? I got some today for the first time with a view to help staying a bit more hydrated and replenishing lost salts from training ..
Dyrolite works wonders bro
You really rate Beta-alanine do you Makwa? Does it give a noticeable intensity and power increase with the creatine
Beta Alanine is ok for pumps, but not good for endurance. Buffering Lactic Acid in your muscles is not good for long periods of time. Lactic Acid is waste product of our muscles.
Lactic acid is what causes our muscles to fatique and we can't continue the set anymore. The Beta-alanine which produces Carnosine prevents your muscles from getting to acidic during your sets so you can push out a few more reps which has its obvious benefits. Plenty of research behind it. I don't believe it is much of a NO enhancer though, but that is not what it is being used for anyway.
When working with natural supps, or anything for that matter including AAS, you need to think about synergy with other compounds. So what have I found to the be the most synergistic when researching all this. For sure it is the combo of beet root juice, creatine, beta-alanine, citrulline malate and betaine. Most of these supps taken on their own are marginal at best so you need to stack them to really make them worthwhile. Of course you need the proper doses of each compound and many of the supps just use the ingredient as window dressing so you are just throwing your money down the drain with alot of them and become dissappointed with the results.
test & hgh
Whey and L-arginine
Do you take the Arginine for heart health benefits or for the pump?
The pumps
StevebMeat and raw milk
Protien powder because it’s hard to get my meals in with my work schedule and multi vitamin.
I would have to pick my multi-vitamin and a super food green tablet. Packed full of veggies and anti-oxidants.
But I have to add regardless life doesn't start for me each day without a strong cup of mud and Copenhagen long cut
Whey and caffeine for sure
If ONLY two - Whey (without a doubt - it's a no-brainer) and a high strength multi-vitamin/amino supplement.
I'd go with whey protein first thing in the morning.
I've had better cholesterol readings eating walnuts than with fish oil which I used to take.
Guess #2 would have to be caffeine. I drink a cup of tea every morning while training.
Caffeine and Copenhagen
I miss Copenhagen but my gums dont..
Best chew there is. I never could graduate to fine cut but when my local store is out im on a slight rampage to find a can. Lol
Ahh right - Chewing tobacco! Got ya lol
You are gonna have to explain that one sam? lol
Prescription grade vitamins and electrolytes.
Viagra and a Disease free Hooker ( a fresh one, not one that is Rusty ) ha
RustyhookerSecrets......shhhhhh
RustyhookerMulti vit and saw palmetto. The rest is adjustable. Ive had good bloods on palmetto for prostate in psa so i stay with it. Multi vit because we destroy at a faster rate as we lift hard. Food can always cover our losses
that is a tough choice
My choices would be : Hydro whey protein + Pure leucine powder
I mix the hydro whey with hot water directly post workout , the leucine I mix with water pre-workout and I supplement it through out the day.
Though I would really miss my multi vitamin, and omega's . the above two I couldn't do with out.
The Leucine is defo a good choice - you really do notice the difference once you start supplementing extra powder into shakes don't you.
What benefit do you notice supp'ing extra leucine - faster recovery?
Oh yes buddy - It regulates mTOR signalling and activates protein synthesis within the muscle. Basically quicker and more complete recovery, faster and greater strength and muscle gains etc
Here's quite a scientific study/article on it:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3141572/
Have fun Giar lol ...