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If you could only use 2 supplements to help recovery and aid training or Vitamins/cycle supports what would they be? By cycle supports I mean things such as Cod liver oil, TUDCA etc. I realise its quite a tough one to decide but it also gives an idea as to how important health is to people over training supps also.

My choice would have to be Whey Isolate and Creatine, with BCAA's coming in just behind.

I know its not long since my last forum post but as not many new ones are currently going up I thought I'd try keep people active and entertained and that it would be an interesting discussion Smile

kodiakGRRL's picture

creatine monohydrate and electrolytes

DfromPhilly's picture

Casein and tudca would be the 2 i wouldn’t want to live without.

johnmarshall12's picture

Whey ProteinIsolate, and Creatine! So many other good ones it is hard to choose!

robb's picture

If we're talking brand for our protein supps are we agreement that optimum nutrition gold standard whey is the way to go?

I'm open to other suggestions..

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press1's picture

I've always found Gold standard fairly awkward to digest, stomach bloating/nausea etc due to the concentrate and soy proteins in it. I use to love Reflex Intant whey Pro with all the flavours they did and the added digestive enzymes in it, but then moved onto Bulkpowders Iso 97 purely because it was so much cheaper - although now its virtually the same as the Reflex so makes no difference really. It is much thinner though and digests rapidly to you are ready to eat within an hour.

robb's picture

Typically I've only recently bought a new tub of optimum protien but I'll look into reflex next time I buy some.

I currently use a scoop and a half, mixed with around 300ml of milk, it goes down well and digests well, having a fast metabolism may help there. I used to use a lot of bulk type supps so most protein shakes always feel thinner and easier to get down.
One bulker I used previously had oats in it, if you left it a bit before drinking it, it would turn to a porridge consistently it was hard to drink, could of eaten it with a spoon lol.

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Greg's picture

There is no soy in ON's Gold Standard Whey.

press1's picture

This was 3/4 years ago. The Soy Lecithin thats in it still may cause the same sides as normal soy protein does, not sure. Never knew what that was before now.

helloBrooklyn's picture

I have to count whey as a food, not a supplement, since it’s just a macro in powdered form. With that in mind, creatine monohydrate and daily beta alanine would be it.

As far as “support” stuff like fish oil and TUDCA, I eat a very heart and liver healthy diet so that I don’t require these things in the first place. Wild caught salmon, lots of different nuts, an assortment of berries, cruciferous veggies, olive oil, chia seed, hemp hearts, lots of fiber, oh, and lots of black coffee, which is one of the finest liver protectants Mother Nature has ever made ;) supps can’t compete with the real thing! And sometimes what one doesn't take in is more important than what one does insofar as health, referring to the abstinence from or at least the very responsible moderation of alcohol and narcotics

0newheelup's picture

Protein powders and bcaa's

ashop's picture

True OTC supplements would be Whey Isolate and Metamucil

Protein4breakfast's picture

Protein powder and milk thistle. I get enough omegas from my diet and most protein powders are packed with vitamins so that would take care of my multivitamin too.

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Soulja's picture

Whey and a multivitamin....you guys should check out Miracle 2000....cheesy name, badass product.

TheFlash85's picture

Bcaas, protein.

Gunnison's picture

CoQ10 and B complex.

But all this would be un necessary if you eat some organs from grass fed animals. Like heart and liver.

Ryan1007's picture

What and creatine

GrowMore's picture

Protein powders.. and I’m split between Taurine for those debilitating back pumps or psyllium husk for those easy toilet stops.

For the record I always enjoy members contributions which keep the site fresh.. apart from roidvisor on the news section.

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johnmarshall12's picture

Whey and creatine!

Makwa's picture

Creatine and beta-alanine

press1's picture

Tell me Mak - Are you a fan of Electrolyte powder at all? I got some today for the first time with a view to help staying a bit more hydrated and replenishing lost salts from training ..

kibby's picture

Dyrolite works wonders bro

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press1's picture

You really rate Beta-alanine do you Makwa? Does it give a noticeable intensity and power increase with the creatine

Gunnison's picture

Beta Alanine is ok for pumps, but not good for endurance. Buffering Lactic Acid in your muscles is not good for long periods of time. Lactic Acid is waste product of our muscles.

Makwa's picture

Lactic acid is what causes our muscles to fatique and we can't continue the set anymore. The Beta-alanine which produces Carnosine prevents your muscles from getting to acidic during your sets so you can push out a few more reps which has its obvious benefits. Plenty of research behind it. I don't believe it is much of a NO enhancer though, but that is not what it is being used for anyway.

When working with natural supps, or anything for that matter including AAS, you need to think about synergy with other compounds. So what have I found to the be the most synergistic when researching all this. For sure it is the combo of beet root juice, creatine, beta-alanine, citrulline malate and betaine. Most of these supps taken on their own are marginal at best so you need to stack them to really make them worthwhile. Of course you need the proper doses of each compound and many of the supps just use the ingredient as window dressing so you are just throwing your money down the drain with alot of them and become dissappointed with the results.

killroy's picture

test & hgh

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JUICEBOX0331's picture

Whey and L-arginine

press1's picture

Do you take the Arginine for heart health benefits or for the pump?

JUICEBOX0331's picture

The pumps

Bill1976's picture

Protien powder because it’s hard to get my meals in with my work schedule and multi vitamin.

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Fangsharp's picture

I would have to pick my multi-vitamin and a super food green tablet. Packed full of veggies and anti-oxidants.
But I have to add regardless life doesn't start for me each day without a strong cup of mud and Copenhagen long cut

Robman040's picture

Whey and caffeine for sure

Ozninjaguy's picture

If ONLY two - Whey (without a doubt - it's a no-brainer) and a high strength multi-vitamin/amino supplement.

Sam I Am's picture

I'd go with whey protein first thing in the morning.
I've had better cholesterol readings eating walnuts than with fish oil which I used to take.
Guess #2 would have to be caffeine. I drink a cup of tea every morning while training.

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daksmack's picture

Caffeine and Copenhagen

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Sam I Am's picture

I miss Copenhagen but my gums dont..

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Fangsharp's picture

Best chew there is. I never could graduate to fine cut but when my local store is out im on a slight rampage to find a can. Lol

press1's picture

Ahh right - Chewing tobacco! Got ya lol

press1's picture

You are gonna have to explain that one sam? lol

DragonDog's picture

Prescription grade vitamins and electrolytes.

GizmoDuck's picture

Viagra and a Disease free Hooker ( a fresh one, not one that is Rusty ) ha

addicted.to.pain's picture

that is a tough choice

My choices would be : Hydro whey protein + Pure leucine powder

I mix the hydro whey with hot water directly post workout , the leucine I mix with water pre-workout and I supplement it through out the day.

Though I would really miss my multi vitamin, and omega's . the above two I couldn't do with out.

press1's picture

The Leucine is defo a good choice - you really do notice the difference once you start supplementing extra powder into shakes don't you.

herpjunkie111's picture

What benefit do you notice supp'ing extra leucine - faster recovery?

press1's picture

Oh yes buddy - It regulates mTOR signalling and activates protein synthesis within the muscle. Basically quicker and more complete recovery, faster and greater strength and muscle gains etc

Here's quite a scientific study/article on it:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3141572/

Have fun Giar lol ...