+ 4 How We Deal with Newbs
Alright i rarely ever venture outside the SIs or pictures anymore, however, I feel the need to speak on something. So for the past few weeks i have been seeing comments and "beliefs" from many "senior" members, and i put senior in quotes because some are level 3s and higher but have been here half the time i have, that are really causing deterioration of the credibility of our members and in return our site.
Yes i am young. i made some stupid decisions when i was in high school and i regret them. i wish no one to follow the same path as me. However, when i see someone tell a new member my age that they will be Banned for giving cycle advice or posting a possible cycle it just disgusts me. If you scare everyone my age enough so they do not post then when will there ever be an opportunity to deter their action? when a young member posts a cycle layout more often than not there are senior members who have been here a long time taking them under their wing and stopping them. Whether it be with diet or training advice. This kind of thing needs to continue. The response of crucifying members for being young and attacking them needs to return the response of guiding them in the right direction with diet and training.
The other thing that has been bothering me is attacking people for their choices. Again comes to age and compound usage. Recently i saw a member harassed for running tren on an early cycle and earlier age. However when you go look at peoples history with pictures and posts they were running tren just as early and about the same age. I am not condoning starting using steroids and especially tren at an early age. But do not just attack because it is the norm of the site, especially if you have previously done the same. By all means if you've done the same and regret it please voice your opinion. That is the best way to connect and change someones mind.
I am not singling out any particular person or group. Just as a whole i believe we need to return to the way we were months ago. We need to help the newer members and not attack and or shut them out.
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sounds like there will be some features added to the site in several months to help police underage kids.
That's great. I don't doubt that statement for a second. Members think they are sneaky and get away with whatever they want but the truth is Mods know just about everything that goes on here but leave most of the work to the laws of natural selection. However, when it comes to dangerous behavior for the individual, other members or Eroids, we can't condone that type of behavior so need to do our best to crush it.
Can you give any details to that? Aka am I no longer going to be able to be here since I'm 22?
no you can be here.
Alright good. Thanks for the reply
Can't we all just get along?
We are the World playing in the background LOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoDY8ce_3zk
I will be playing the role of Lionel Richie if no one minds.
LMAO!!!! love it, Kenny Rogers all the way. At least you could recognize him back then.
I'm not an attack dog and I'm not in the mood to write a novel at the moment. The fine line is that most of these noobs are young indeed but they are not children but grown ass men. They're old enough for military service. We all come from different family backgrounds and we are all going to react differently. When my kids were younger and they got completely out-of-control they got the belt. Now, if I just grab my belt buckle order is immediately restored in seconds. No need to resort to that anymore. Some people think that kind of discipline should be turned into law enforcement. So it is with the noobs for me. Most of the time I'm the older brother and just give them pointers and advice. On occasion though, it's not that often - the OP does need an ass whooping. To say that that is never the case is not realistic in my opinion.
RustyhookerGrowed ass men and mentally/physically mature are very different. Most states you vote at 18 along with military but can't drink. I too don't write the rules but this site hold a stronger line on age.
If you choose to help thru pm, you have that right. Anyone looking around at the "vets" in forums lately? They're all working thru pm. Burnt out because newbs. Lost info. Not returning anytine soon.
So we're here with Facebook. Spoonfeedings. Yes, they're gonna do it anyways. DILLIGAF. Then they too can simply read read read just like any gym rats been doing for the last several decades. Every possible cycly including tren, slin, hgh is all clearly posted. Available for even non-members to read.
I am no eroids "vet" by any means. I've been here one year. But I am tired too bro. Tired. Same questions over and over. No one looks up anything. Ever. So it seems anyways.
RustyhookerFor a while i tried to post a couple "prompts" so the op could research then reply. Nope. Another newb jumps on and posts every link needed. Lol!
The younger guys that are dedicated and research can be easier on pm if needed. Weeds out the silver spoons. You got the skills, and it is a chore. Then they post up post cycle pix and its worth the efforts. Dont give up!
No, I'm not giving up. People PM me and ask questions and I always help out. That's the draw back of sometimes being too tough in a forum thread - it makes folk afraid to PM and that's not what I want. I only got involved here to help people. I don't really know what other motive there is.
RustyhookerEach year the spring rush is chaos. Newbs,, vets, good dudes, scammers....it's crazy. Lol! Fall bulker time is the regulars. Guys wanting to learn, lots of new learning forums. You're doing great.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/introduction/a-big-thank-you
No specific moment where he was swayed. But this is what we want. For them to remain apart of the community and not forced out for being young. Now he can go the diet and training route to change himself. Yet at the same time research and ask questions so when the time is right he can do things properly
Anonhttp://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/please-help-0
*read this thread. I refused to post in this thread cuz it made me want to vomit to see what Eroids is becoming. A soldier who is currently serving came pleading for help. One single man offers him a hand. The rest left him to rot in his own misery. Dude is asking to be healed. Instead he gets a sermon by Eroids' self appointed Preachers!
Pathetic demonstration of what Eroids has to offer. Disgusting
I think that thread has a nice showing of what eroids offers. He got the answers he needed and a bit of "preaching" about his age. Both of those things are good.
There was multiple people trying to help him by the time I posted rusty and nitti already told him what to get. The Op never even responded to getting a pct if he was that bad why wouldn't he responded nitti to or rusty. It's hard to help anyone when they don't respond .He even had a few service man try and help him. What did u want some one to jump on a plane and fly him a pct? Maybe u need to re-read that bc he got advice. Your been Melo dramatic we left him to rot in his own misery. Not arguing with u since apparently I'm a preacher that cares bout people safety. Thought eriods was a safety first site.glad we all disgust u have a good day
AnonEasy to say someone fucked up. If that's your idea of safety then I'm the one in the wrong. Guess all I gotta do to help is say "You fucked up, research". And no you have it wrong. Eroids is a Steroid Review Site FIRST. At least last time I checked.
I didn't say your fucked Up your problem. I didn't post the whole time cause nitti and rusty had it under control they gave him sound advice. Why would I post anything when the Op doesn't respond. the only reason I posted was bc of bad advice throwing out to a 21 year old kid.here's the thing u wanna say your disgusted how eriods is and all that other stuff well u blasting everyone in the forum but rusty because he gave him pct is wrong. Well instead of not helping the young man come in an say guys we need to help more. Help lead to change if u feel eriods needs to go that route. U are a respected member here but u blast people on another forum is just as wrong as u think that thread is. That solves nothing but putting riffs into the community. If I would of seen u post guys let's help him more he needs it. I would of helped anyway I could of but the only help I could do at the time is calling out bad advice. Cause he hasn't still responded to anyone. U have so much to offer here if we need change help guide us to a better route. Imo that thread wasn't bad at all the kid got advice he needed and some tough love bout his age but I'm not right all the time if there change that needs to be done here then lead by example
I totally agree with you. If I see a mod or any well respected member says help him I will. But I've been reprimanded to many times for giving advice to young people so I won't do it anymore. But if someone gives me the ok ill do everything in my power to help the kid. Just give me the green light. But the rules have been drilled into my head and I follow them to the T.
AnonDude I don't know why you are so upset? I didn't single anybody out. I only keep replying to you because I think you aren't understanding my point. This is why I don't post shit anymore bro. Everyone here is so damn sensitive.
I've read your posts and 99.9% of the time you are one of the most helpful people here. I know that. Everyone knows that. Do you know that? Well if you don't let me be fly he first to tell you I think you are one of the most informative and helpful members here. I don't even know what to say anymore. I'm lost for words
Thank u sir and I'm sorry I got upset. U are so helpful to. I thought u was just blasting off on everyone and well I misunderstood it.I agree we can improve the community and I'm all for it. Eriods needs u as I've learned so much from u. I'm sorry I understand your intentions are for the betterment of the community. We need u to post more not less. I want to apologize again to u and the community for this childish behavior
Edit I wanted to add I respect u bro and that's why I got upset cause I thought u was calling me out. Nothing but mad respect towards u. U really should post more if I came on a post and u said let's help guys. I would of jumped in with anything I could of. U are a very respected member and it's a shame up don't post more
AnonI'm not joking when I say you guys are my family. Everyone. I've tried making every moment here a good one. Even though at times I've wondered why I always seem to land myself into trouble. I know my modus operandi isn't the most tactful. For that I apologize. But I'm very passionate about PCT and helping anyone and everyone when it comes to that. Ask anyone who knows me. I'd give you the shirt off my back if you needed it. It's who and what I am. I'll be honest I stayed out of the 25yr old discussion because I personally don't agree with it. I have my reasons but they're mine. When it comes to PCT I would hope we could help everyone who is sincerely looking for help. Thats all bro. Again my apologies
I agree pct is more important than the cycle in most cases. I know u care bout Poeple and pct. I've actually went thru your post and forums just to read. I get what your saying and my mistake for taking things personal. Like to see more forums and post from u. We need outside the box thinking. Keep fighting the good fight
I know exactly where your coming from . It took me a solid two months to get over the fact that if some 20 year old comes saying he's gonna do a deca only cycle I can't atleast tell him to add a test base. That's just an example of situation. But it makes sense to me now. So if we help this kid where does it stop? Do make a exception for guys on the army? What if there 18. That's the only thing that I can't thing about this kinda situation.
AnonHow is helping a kid save his hpta a bad thing? Do we need to be such assholes and stick to this 25 and under hardline when it comes to PCT? I understand the hard line when it comes to cycle advice or consigning bonehead cycles. But now it's PCT too????? It's completely different when it comes to PCT. He's an idiot. I get that. Didn't bother with research. Ok. So point him in the right direction. For someone who posts about pct and HCG as much as you do you can't shoot the kid a link? Cuz a link would what, spoon feed?
Let me ask you how old were you when you started gear???
Its not a bad thing, exact opposite actually. It's great to help the kid, I would be glad to help him in anyway I can. But this under 25 thingg has been drilled into my head. No advice for anything other ten diet and training if you're under 25. So I just follow the rules. I have a lot if knowledge and a decent amont of personal experience with pct so it someone like yourself or a mod says help the kid then I will go out of my way to do everything I can to help him. But I'm not trying to break any rules so I won't give advise unless I'm told I can.
About spoon feeding, I don't care about it in this situation. This is not the type of situation where I care if someone does there own research it's to late for that. It's easy enogh for me to day run Clomid 100/100/50/50 and nolva 40/40/20/20 and if that doesn't work I have plenty of back up plans and I have domestic sources for pharm grade that will be there in 2 days. I would be more then glad to help the kid that's gods honest truth, but I've been told not to give advice to younger kids to many times now, so I just don't. Give me the ok and I'll help him in anyway I can.
I could post up a pm that would shock you all. Youngster, been on tren for a year non stop and is a bloody mess with trying to pct and recover. He screwed up, I've told him he'sa dick, but I'll also help him get himself back on track. Otherwise it's what we call "flogging a dead horse" which achieves nothing.
Common sense here guys. We don't encourage / condone / co sign stupid cycles, but if someone is deep in the shit and already done it, I'm going to try and help him/her out.
I second that. It is the right thing to do. Period.
I stick to the guidelines set by the mods but when a dude is already in a bind with the likes of pct I try and help but at the same time get the message across
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/need-help-0
AnonThat's all we can do. I'm definitely not saying we just co-sign bullshit. But PCT related things are a soft spot for me. I was diagnosed hypogonadism at 27-28ish. I've been a slave to the needle ever since. As someone who has an independence streak like nobody else I know it's very humiliating. I don't want to see anyone go through that. IMO PCT related topics should get a pass on the under 25 no help at all guidelines that's going around. But I'm nobody around here so take what I say with a grain of salt. It was an open post so I chimed in. I almost regret opening my big mouth.
Not the Carlos mentality I've grown to know and respect. I can't speak for everyone but your word alone carries serious weight my friend!!
i think the administration views that situation differently than cosigning a cycle for him. at that point he had already ran a cycle and was in an unhealthy situation. those types of situations are acceptable to help younger guys. even nitti popped his head in there
Anon.
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AnonGlad you understand what I said. Better left unsaid cuz there's too many self important preachers on this website now. They forget who the fuck they are and that the world sees them as lowlife druggies. But here they're showing the lost and wayward the light!! They're sooooo fucking illuminated:/ I learned a long time ago that if I wanted to be a good criminal to listen to other good criminals. If I wanted to learn how to be righteous the last place I'd be is here.
It's fine bro I didn't forget who I am. I don't know why u took so much offense to me and the other people on that post so I'm sorry it offended u I'm done with the forums. U can have them I truly like eriods and I wouldn't want to tarnish it so I'll just sit back and read.I even posted on that link a proper pct now. Wasn't my intention to leave him out to rot
AnonI'm so confused I don't even know what to say. You must never have had anyone ever disagree with anything you've ever said.
I'll have no part in this argument, but I have to say, tide, that you staying out of the forums is NOT the answer to anything! Ive only been here bout 6 months, but I have seen you help so many guys its not even funny. Me included, both directly and indirectly. There are a few guys here who, when I see their tag, I click and read whether the subject interests me or not because I know Im gonna learn something. Youre one of those guys. Taking your voice out of the forums serves no purpose brother.
And smart criminals know caution is their savior. But caution is the savior for many things
I agree there are things that need to be said yet cannot without destroying our position here. And yea. I'd like to see you stick around brother
And you're not hijacking. Just broadening the scope of what I'm trying to get across
Kinda veering away from the topic but god I hate the fact that were considered criminals. Most of us are responsible tax paying law abiding (except for steroids ) citizens. It's not right what this country is doing to us.
Age has nothing to do with it. There are some very smart young guys on here. irongame
Why thank you my dear, I'm truly flattered. And congrats on the adv tag, you deserve it.
Hollywood explained this very well. Eroids will not co-sign young kids steroid use. If something goes wrong, it will come back on our site (especially by an angry parent), then we won't have Eroids as we know it. We either have standards we live up to or we don't. Eroids is great because most folks here actually look out for dangerous cycles and use and point it out. I wouldn't trade that for more acceptance.
I agree that no one should begin by flaming anyone, but the problem is that most of us who go out of our way to help, end up getting ignored and insulted by this same young crowd for not co-signing what they want to do. I find it rare that the 18-24 crowd actually listens to what is being said. Doesn't stop me from trying to help, but I know I don't help as much as I used to, because it can be tiring putting in the time, only to have you ignored or have insults thrown back.
Also, I don't see many Level 2+ members giving horrible advice. When it does happen, it's pointed out pretty quickly by others. Although it may be too late at that time for those looking for validation of their mess.
Anyway, +1 for a good topic discussion.
i wasnt trying to say we should cosign usage in that age range. more that instead of the, "come back when you're 25" response ive been seeing, play out the thread and try and show them diet and tweaks to their training could produce gains just as good as jumping on a cycle. Atleast for the ones who are willing to cooperate and listen
and yes i know there will be the ones saying fuck you im doing it anyways just help me...those are the ones you tell to fuck off and that get banned.
The problem I find is that most don't want to hear the "come back at 25" and "here are some lifting and diet tips." I will always say and offer that, but I find that it's rarely listened to, which is fine, but it's the hostility and disrespect that fuels this. I think most guys go out of their way to help, but have been burnt so many times, that it's almost a knee jerk reaction. I have to remind myself sometimes to not go this route.
How about some experience users who stand at 25% BF or over, giving advice on how to cut when they can't even apply those concepts to them selves!!! I know a few of those here bro
Bro take your blinders off. What if u was at a batting cage and some ole man came up to could hardly walk and tried to give u a few pointers. Would u say I'm not listening to u. U can hardly swing a bat but maybe that ole guy is Pete rose or look at football how many coaches I've seen that's so out of shaped don't look like they could walk up a flight of stairs but doesn't mean there not top notch coaches. What if in twenty years u have all this knowledge built up but gave up the bodybuilder lifestyle and was 20 percent body fat how would u feel if u seen some 18year old with bad form and u tried to help him only to have him say wtf dude u don't look like a pro bodybuilder your a dumbass. Just saying that kinda of approach u will miss a lot of life lessons from people that might know more than u
A lot of times you'll find those that can't do are fantastic coaches. It takes a village... Right? Whether this guy is a fatty or not if I roll across this thread and see he is giving valid advice then I'm gonna back him up on it. The more of us that get involved and back up valid advice that's given then it tends to carry more weight. Therefore it tends to stick a little better. I hear this about personal trainers so much. People pick apart the way they look rather than really listening to what they have to say.