posted Mon, 10/19/2015 - 15:16
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Experience with STENBOLONE
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Anyone have any experience with stenbolone ace? How much did you use, for how long, what were your gains in all areas and any side effects.
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Anyone have any experience with stenbolone ace? How much did you use, for how long, what were your gains in all areas and any side effects.
Here's the shortcut to my sten cycle log, trying to get some good real world knowledge out there since there seems to be none.
https://www.eroids.com/cycle_logs/stenbolone-cycle#comment-2127049
Looked it up and seems very interesting, schering came out with it in the sixties as anatrofin, it's apparently a 1-test derived steroid similar to primo. It doesn't aromatize at all and has little androgenic affects. I can't find info on the dosing protocol though.
It was made to be a injectable anadrol but is alot weaker than it so it isn't very popular. But where did you read what you said? It sounds like you might be mixing it up with 1 test cyp
http://www.ergogenics.org/anabolenboek/index21en.html
Don't know if link works but it's that website. Under "the real anabolic steroids" group 6. Its under the 1-testosterone derivatives group along with primo.
Interesting first time I've seen that, good find
Sten ace hasn't been made in a long time. Methyl sten is still a legal designer that is very similar to superdrol both in structure and effects. I'm actually on it and other designer right now and loving the ride.
It's definitely still being made I have some from a very popular ug lab
So you actually believe a Chinese manufacturer made a special run of this just for your ugl? Come on man.
Same with 1-test its not being made in powder form from any of the china manufacturer.
Lol if you think all raws come from china? If you do you got alot to learn about the industry and I'm sure if you took a look around instead of going off half cocked jumping the gun with misinformation you would likely kick yourself in the ass. Lol just for my ugl
Haha i been around these boards since 2001 trust me i have pretty much seen it all.
Not gonna get into an argument on this but every ugl is getting their raws from china. They can say what they want, its coming from china, not india, china.
But believe what you want brother. Tell you what, if you are so confident send a sample to simec and get it tested.
Lol like I said if you really think that then you don't know as much as you think you do about the industry and you joined in 2013 bro lol guess you forgot all that info is available to every one not to mention you are just trolling up my forum post with all this but if you have actual experience with stenbolone your welcome to share.
This isn't the only board on the net. Been on meso since the old days under various names and some other boards. Started on fitnessboard with basskiller and gearedup way back.
Suffice to say, i know plenty about the industry. Ever been over there to see how things are run on that side? I have, trust me you learn a lot when you see things firat hand.
Like i said if you have so much faith have it tested.
The fact that your getting your info from only msg boards tells me you have no other outlet for information and that's second hand. I know for a fact that china is not the only producers, I'm sure if you even did a little digging on Google given you know what keywords to type and how to go about looking for this info then you might even be able to find something on there.
As for the testing sure if you want to put up the $500 to have it tested I will surely send it in. Go write the guy at anabolic lab he goes through simec and I know he answers emails. But by simec's own admission through personal email they are not a complete testing facility, they do not have the means to test hcg trust me I tried and they said they don't have the equipment. But if you don't believe that either send them a email. But be sure to include the full spelling of hcg, not abbreviated.
Its only 300 to have it tested and i knew simec couldn't test it when i suggested it because they can't get a legit sample for comparison.
And millard from anabolic lab doesn't take samples like that.
And my info isn't only coming from message boards. If you trust your source its your money, do as you please.
Oh now you knew they couldn't test it when you said it lmfao okay buddy lol this is just getting comical have a good day kid
Kid? Really? And yea anybody that knows a damn thing knows they couldn't test it. There is no pharm grade sample to test off of.
Hey but im just a know nothing kid.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/little-something-bothe...
Gotcha big dog, sorry about that.
And you just proved you don't know much about it. Its mass spectrometry or a simple chemical composition test to test the underlying composition. And for comparison go take a gander at the German patent office bc when you patent something all knowledge and chemical composition is kept on file. You got some things to learn man keep up with your studies. ;-)
Tony is right need to keep it civil, i apologize for kinda being a dick.
From my understanding on the mass spec testing they need a sample of known purity to test against. Its how san rafeal did it back in the day and why simec hasnt been able to test certain compounds including why the last anavar round of testing for anabolic lab was delayed.
Look im not trying to be a know it all, i really not even though it might seem like it. But even if some manufacturer is producing soemwhere outside china, the derivatives are coming from china, even patrick arnold has/had to get the base derivatives from china. These derivatives are not easy to find, patrick has said so himself. But lets say they are doing all of that, how easy is the synthesis? I know when the owner of pure oils was trying to get trestolone developed ge had to throw away mutiple batches after lab testing, and at the time he owned one of the largest prohormone companies out there and had connections to get everything else made at a 95% purity. The reason why was because the synthesis was not easy and depending what ester attached it ruined the base hormone. And trest has all kind of documents on how to synthesis it all over the net.
I also saw patrick arnold give step by step directions on how to make a slightly modified version of the original 1-ad that would be legal and watched the chinese put out bad batch after bad batch because the synthesis was too hard.
I say all that to ask you, why would somebody go through all that, put out all that money to put out a product that appeals to a very very limited amount of people?
You can use and believe what you want but i really think what you are getting is just another common steroid or mixture or steroids, just with the price jacked up. Its your money, do as you please, but i hate to see somebody out of money because im sure you work hard for yours just like i do.
You don't need a actual sample in front of you to test anything, as long as you have the correct equipment and the molecular structure comes out identical to whatever the match is on paper then bingo bango and like I said when you patent something its chemical structure along with a proliferation of other data is recorded and filed by the country's patent office. Almost everything china uses as raw materials for preparation of hormones is in fact imported from mainly European countries. It is then converted into the final product mainly in china bc of one simple fact, its cheaper. That's why everyone goes there and uses their labs. But there are in fact other facilities across the world, smaller in size mostly yes but they do most certainly exist. Like I said if you know what keywords to type then you can find them on Google. But even so say it was from china who's to say its not a stockpile of older product even though its not but.as for the price it isn't very expensive at all, not to mention I got it for free anyways lol. I've since started it and have experienced the strength and endurance associated with anadrol which feels the same almost. I'm sure you know what I mean by the feel of the effects of various steroids have and this is very similar to anadrol which leads me to believe that it is in fact through personal experience. I am going to get bloods done in a week or two to see if my rbc is high and am getting it done in a week or two so I know its not bold bc that takes so long to kick in but also raises rbc which aids in endurance. But once again if you want to pay for testing I'll put up the sample and no I'm not just saying that, I'm down if you are.
Haha im not paying for it because ita not somehting i have an interest in. In all honesty i started to tell you i would pay for the test afterwards if it came back good, knowing full well simec couldn't test it. Like i said, sorry for being a dick lol.
And you may very well be right on the testing but i know simec will not test without a sample of known purity and thats the same way san rafeal was. I do know the company that makes lab max kits was doing mass specs for a while based on exactly what you said.
And yea i know what you mean about the feel but i have been around for so long that i have become jaded and look at people who post such and such was great or terrible, the same way i look at witnesses to a crime......completely unreliable. Granted this is only to a certain extent, the greater the pool the feedback is coming from, the better chance of it being truthful.
Now i actually do trust your opinion as you seem very knowledgeable. But like i said i have no interest in exotic compunds like this.
Now 1-test on the other hand......whole nother story.
Ok but that's what this whole post was about was stenbolone and I was looking for others that have had experience with it but it seems I've said all I had to say on the subject of labs and testing, right now I got to go take care of my sick boy that keeps waking up coughing his head off, drs visit tm lol take care
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/little-something-bothe...
Totally agree but I do think I was bringing good science to back up my points I was trying to make to make him realize but definitely not a pissing match just trying to back my point and facts.
Just keep it civil bro.
Of course
I researched it heavily a while back and the only guy really saying he liked it was Greg Valentino haha. From what I remember basically anything it does other compounds do better so I never looked at it again
Well if you researched it heavily and only found one I guess I'm not gonna find anyone lol thx bro
Was designed as a mild version of Anadrol. Not been pharmaceuticals manufactured since the 80's. Pointless compound.
Ik all that just looking for ppl with experience using it but why you say its pointless
It did nothing that other drugs couldn't do better. There's s reason they stopped manufacturing it, basically no market for it.
Don't think you're going to find much personal experience with it due to the above.
I guess I'll just have to see for myself, no sense in it going to waste, maybe I'll just up my intended dose and see what happens lol
Keep a log, post up what you think etc. Be interested to hear your experience with it.
https://www.eroids.com/cycle_logs/stenbolone-cycle#comment-2127049
Thanks for the idea here's my log
Yeah maybe I will
I'd like to see that as well. Not a whole lot of info out there so certainly couldn't hurt. You have an idea of how you're going to run it?
https://www.eroids.com/cycle_logs/stenbolone-cycle#comment-2127049
Cycle log
I did some research on it and said the usual weekly dosage is 200-300 mgs but it does seem kind of low bc it comes in 100 mg/ml. I was going to run it 50 mgs/ed but might bump it up to 75 ed after a week, nothing crazy bc I've never ran this compound before and there's hardly any real world experience out there.