+ 2 DHB
So I have decided to go down the DHB route. The product i am using also has Guaiacol in it so that is another first for me. So far I am at 30mg EOD. Prob won't go higher than 50mg EOD. Ive seen dosing all over the place from people doing 300+ to other saying most normal humans won't need any more than 200mg ever to some saying they get alot off of less than 100mg a week. Combine that with people complaining about Liver Issues, c-reactive protein issues, PIP issue, Ive decided to error on the side of caution and aim for around 150mg this trial period. Plan on going 8-10weeks to finish up my cycle of Sust which is at 425mg wk. Bloods in 3-4weeks to test c-reactive protein, lipids, etc. Also will be giving blood in exactly 3 weeks.
As of now:
Sust 425mg wk
DHB 100mg wk (will titrate up to 150mg)
3mg ED of Aromasin
Ive coupled all my injections with Sust. No plans of straight up DHB.
1st injection was fine in Glute. No PIP. Guaiacol smells up the place. Vodka got it off my fingers. 
However like @SeeOhShow I kind of like the smell. Kind of a woodsy mint smell. Def see why its used in fragrrances.
2nd Injection was in VG. This one I felt nothing at first then I had some PIP for about 5 hours. However at that point it was bedtime. Woke up with very little. 1 day later I can still kind of feel it a little. Nothing bad though. Feels like a rough night in bed with the wife.
3rd injection was other VG 30mg. No PIP at all. Feels completely fine.
If I mix with a slightly highter Test to DHB ration appears I get no PIP. If it is equal 1:1 I might get a little more. However I should be doing more Test with my DHB during every injection so don't expect to much PIP related issues.
I have recently gotten headaches. Not sure if its related to the DHB or if it is becuase the Temperatur aroudn me just shot up to 100degrees and its gotten humid like a whales asshole.
UPDATE WEEK 3:
So after 3 weeks starting to feel some strength gains. Nothing outrageous. Cardio seems to be just fine. If I compare it to NPP...NPP kills my cardio and causes major shin splints. DHB so far has been nothing like that. Strength gains feel similar to NPP to me. Slow steady. I have up'd my dose to 60mg EOD Don't plan on going higher than that for this test cycle.
As far as PIP. Haven't had any real PIP until one injection in my left buttcheek about 7 days ago. It still hurts a bit. I will probably skip that injection site this time around unless it feels better in next 3 days.
Bloodwork is being done in about 1.5 weeks. (5wk mark)
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UPDATE: Week #6
So had blood draw last week (Wk 5). Results are back except for Test/Estrogen. Still running 200mg of DHB. I will say that I def am having some PIP that lasts for quite a few days (8-11days) in my hips and ass from injections. To the point I am taking advil hoping to bring down some inflation. Shoulders cause no issues what so ever.
Im a bit surprised that my numbers aren't bad. Some numbers slightly elevated but PSA still good. Liver and Kidney is still good. C-Reactive is good despite feeling like I have inflammation now. But I don't have a base number of that to see if it went up at all. Other than the PIP in my glutes I feel ok and strength has gone up some. I look dryer.
My ABSOLUTE NEUTROPHILS went from 3200 to 6000. Which from reading indicates its fighting an infection. So that number stood out. While still in range it doubled from my norm.
Will I do it again? Eh I dunno. At the moment I rather do NPP and have a little more water and not worry about how I have to sit on my ass.
You won’t notice anything with DHB until about week 8. 200-300 is where I would run it. I’ve done higher but injecting everyday wasn’t fun. Next time I’ll run it with EQ and test.
So then where are the people I've watched discuss 200mg being highest dose for most and and working fast? I know 6-8 was is the "typical" time it takes. I'm just curious of these very large swings in info on DHB.
They’re making shit up. It’s a longer ester that takes time to build up. It really doesn’t shine til week 8 like EQ.
Looking forward to following along on your progress & bloods! Always great to have another person using & sharing their experience. I have nothing to say accept good things about DHB
Some people love this one, some hate it. I ran 8 weeks at 300 and didn’t see much from it. Didn’t have any sides except PIP. It was stuff from end of GK’s run so it may have been bunk. My go to is NPP and Mast. Jockstrap loves the stuff and gets great results. But as others say, you need to run 300-400 to see results. Good luck, I hope it works for you.
anvilA suggestion - 150mg are aren't likely to get much out of it. Also, you can find a source without the Guaiacol around here. Might be better on the blood work.
Thanks for the suggestion....And this is one of the problems I mentioned. Like I said. Ive seen people say most don't need more then 200mg. Ive seen other say they have had obvious progress with 50mg. Ive seen other say 600mg. There isn't that much info out there on it or actual proof of bloodwork.
I rather tread gently with this compound. I can always titrate up. Im one of those less is more. If I get results at 150mg why pump 300mg? And if I pump 300mg Ill never know if 150mg would have worked.
Ive talk to other members and people. Ive found a source or two without Guaiacol. Also found people saying the Guaiacol seems to help with the PIP which in my very very short trial here appears to be true without trying the flipside.
Also Guaiacol is another one of those substances. People say its harsh. Others say well tis used for antiseptic and anesthesic so how bad can it be.
Definitely going to keep an eye on this cycle. I have 6 vials of DHB from 3 different sources. Only did a test inj to sus out any PiP but there was none. It’s on the top of the list for things to cycle but for now I’m sticking to Test E and C for the most part. I think I like running low dose secondary compounds. I wonder how your DHB will do as an add on at 100/150mg per week.
Yea Ill post bloodwork. I see people talking about stuff but have never seen actual bloodwork numbers. I mean one guy is like I have seen someone go into liver failure using DHB. But then the next words out of his mouth were he used it for 1 year straight. well you lost me at that point. Thats not a valid test or cycle in my book. Nor did he even mention how much he was taking for 1year straight. So again i threw that comment out in the trash. But others have mentioned markers going up but never showed bloodwork from it. Id like to see bloodwork and dosing etc.
anvilI literally posted my blood work on this. After 20 weeks all in normal range.
Cool. Thanks Ill check it out.
I would suggest you to check your blood pressure every day multiple times a day if you can. Headache is s sign, but, even if you feel like nothing is wrong with it.
I can't imagine it would raise blood pressure that quickly but this compound seems to do some wild things to people sometimes. I got my machine at home. Ill have to check it out.