Convincing Wife to let me back on AAS
In a bit of a jam here... So I've been with my girl for over two years now and we are getting married next summer. I was on AAS when we first met had had no issues. She expressed that she didn't really like it much but never said I had to stop. I ran my Test E cycle for a few months then naturally came to a stopping point and did a full PCT and have been off for 6 months now.
Without even thinking about it I ordered everything I need to run another Test E cycle. Last week I tried to sit down with her and respectfully ask her if it's ok I start a cycle again. She became extremely uncomfortable and said she doesn't want me going back on. Her defense was her last boyfriend was on steroids and was extremely abusive to her. (I knew the guy and he was). Even though I have never once lost my tempter or been disrespectful to her, while on or off cycle.
I really believe that a TEST only cycle improves my quality of life. It elevates my mood, and keeps me from feeling insecure. I never run it higher than 5-600mg a week.
I just need some opinions and insight from any of you guys who may have some advice to give me on the matter. How should I approach this? I really want to go back on but will not do it behind her back. How should I explain this to her?....
FYI I had my bloods done last week and everything came back normal. Test was in the low end of normal tho.
I'm 26. 6'2" 200 lbs and being all natural is a real struggle with my hight and genteics. I feel like I'm working harder than ever now and still lossing muscle. Cals are up and added volume to my training
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I find it a tad odd you felt the need to "ask her if it was ok." It's good you two worked it out, and it's great she's letting you do it. But you might address the fact that you needed her permission in the first place. I'm not trying to be bitchy, but in 10 years I've never asked for my husbands permission or he mine.
I asked because I knew in her mind it was not ok. She was grossly misinformed about steroids in general. I knew this going into asking her and I used it as a segue the lay the info down to make her more comfortable for when I inevitably was going to do it.
I could have just done it without asking, but I'm certain if I didn't and she found out it was it would have been a shitty situation for us both.
Probably wise and saved yourself a lot of drama.
Sorry for the delay in response to you all, had a busy long weekend. I really appreciate all the insight that was given, and it definitely helped.
I'm pleased to say that after a long talk on saturday, it looks like I'll be going back on cycle soon:). Basically I brought it back up again and presented her with all the knowledge and information I could come up with, for how this is safe for me, and actually beneficial to me health.
After going back and forth on the topic for about 20 mins she finally saw the light and how it would make me happy if she was on board with it all. It actually all worked out for the better, because she asked that I need to get bloods done as often as possible to monitor health and she wants to be fully involved with the whole process(which I actually like)
Was it necessary I did all this? no. But I feel better that we are both on the same page and theres no resentment from wither side. I agree with all of you that said "it's my body, my goals, and I should do what I want" and by no means was I trying to be a pussy about it, simply tried to take a different approach this time in hopes it worked out for both of us, and I believe it did.
So with that all said and done, what do you all see as a reasonable time frame to keep getting bloods done? i.e. every month? 6 weeks?.... Also any suggestions on places to order labs would be appreciated, since I don't want bother my Dr every time for bloodwork.
Stoked to get back on!
Sirk1981I know the feeling. I was ON when My Ex and I got back together almost 2 months ago. About a month ago I offhandedly made a remark about "Wait till the steroids kick in", at that point I just started the conversation and never really asked for permission just her understanding That i was doing this for me to be happy, "DON"T YOU WANT ME TO BE HAPPY???. Like I said before she is more than willing to help pin me as long as I keep up with my blood work. Good luck with your cycle BRO...
You are not her Ex, nor should she be using her experience with her Ex to stop you from doing things. Actually, her Ex should not be a topic of conversation IMO.
This is something you love and are passionate about. Pick something that brings joy to her life and ask her to stop, see what her response is.
You're a grown man. You don't need to ask permission to do things. You are capable of weighing pros and cons making your own decision.
If you concede on this matter, what's next.
Whatever you do, don't do it and hide it from her, if she finds out, trust is lost and without trust in your relationship you have NOTHING. Either tell her you're doing it or throw in the towel.
its your body not hers -she just owns all the other shit - peace -lol
I have to agree with the guys here... It isn't that I don't respect my husbands opinion on things however, I didn't ask him if he was ok with my cycling.. I told him that's what I wanted to do. Goth doesn't ask me if it is ok to take his scooter out for a ride around the neighborhood, he says.. 'baby see ya later I m going out for a ride.. or he may ask if want to come go with him.. "
You need to educate her.
Iif she can't get past her old boy friend then your relationship is going to have some serious issues. If she can't respect you enough to see what this means to you then there are other things that are going to become issues later on. This isn't about being bossy this about knowing what you want and understanding that in the long run it is going to be beneficial for you and ultimately her ...
I d remind her that you are not her ex. I d also remind her that you were on cycle when you met. Furthermore, if you are being honest about your behavior then I d also remind her that you aren't an asshole... Juice doesn't make you an asshole it just emphasizes the fact that you already were one to begin with
So damn good!!! Also proof positive of any real man wants also a woman who is bold and not mousy about her actions as well! The door swings both ways!
No mice here...lol.. but you just made me think of something my sis used to tell me.. " don't let the door hit ya, where the good lord split ya" sorry very off topic
Now that is some weird shit right there..... I just said that to my six year old son this morning when he was acting like little lord shit pants!
that is my super power ;)
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Your first mistake was asking her if it's ok.
I dont understand this kind of talk, I tell my girl she is in charge everyday and then i do what i want. I mean i dont treat her like shit, more like a queen, but if I wanna do something i do it. tried that whole baby how do you feel shit back in my 20's and that girl tried to run me through the ringer, thought she could get away with murder. ever since then the truth has always been for me that chicks like men to be in charge, they wont tell you that shit, matter fact they will complain and bitch and about it, try to play the sex card and try to turn you into some puss and then run all over you. Homie dont play that shit, I let them do their thing and i do mine. even in marriage, be nice to her, pamper her with affection, buy her shit that says you care, support her, and the things you hold dear to your heart do them when you want. Ive told my girl many a time if you dont like it your not being held hostage and I wont be mad if you go.
You've got to establish a hierarchy. It's all about who wears the trousers?
I know who it is in my relationship. And every once in a while if I ask very nicely she lets me borrow them.......
I d hazard a guess to say that she may have your balls safely tucked away somewhere too ..lol.. ask Tread where his woman keeps his..
Lmao!
Sirk1981I wear them in my house, but She buys them, sets them out, washes them and sometimes gives me my allowance.
Funny, I tell Goth he is in charge every day and then I do what I want .... ;p
Damn I was hoping there were more like minded men around here lol!
Bro, this is your problem right here ^. Why would you sit with her and respectfully ask her? Do you really think that you need her permission? It amazes me that any man would fear his wife. The key word hear is 'man'. You're not acting like a man by asking her now, when she already knew you were doing AAS when you met.
What you should have done is:
1. Not tell her - why tell her since she knew you were on cycle when you met - it's a natural progression in that you're simply continuing to do what you've been doing when you met her, and now that you've 'asked' her like a wuss, you've spooked her,
2. Educate her - tell her that AAS does not change someone's personality, or make a nice guy into a violent monster.
3. You really need to show her that you're a real man here. Asking her respectfully is very nice, but she sensed weakness when you 'asked' instead of 'told' her what you're doing and telling her that this is how you were when you met and that you're not changing to suit her. Believe it or not, she'll see you as more of a leader. Be that leader and lead her. It's okay to ask for her opinions on certain things, but stand up, be firm, and don't cave.
Good luck.
I liked your first version brother lol! I do the same thing dialing it back
Haha. I actually jumped right in with my post, then scrolled down and read yours and thought damn, pank beat me to it. You're post is spot on my man. So many guys have this fear of losing her and feel a need to constantly appease her. It's been my experience that the hotter the woman, the more she's looking for an alpha male and can smell a wuss a mile away. I keep shaking my head picturing the scene where he 'sits with her and 'asks' her. This frustrates me just thinking about it because I see this pathetic behavior all the time. Trust that I treat my women very well: tons of affection, often in public... often random, little surprises like a Harley Davidson tank top that she wasn't expecting, being protective of her, yet respecting her space and her time when with me and away from me, and many other ways. But there's no way in hell that I will kiss her ass to 'get something', nor will I yield to demands or ultimatums. I believe in negotiating and compromise, never manipulation. From the beginning, she senses that she's privileged to be with me, and I make her feel as though I'm equally as lucky. Like a king and queen.
I could write a book on this topic, but I think there are already many books on this 'alpha male' mentality. And there are ever increasing numbers of men who really need to understand these concepts. The dying breed on men with this 'alpha male mentality' is staggering... can you say 'skinny jeans', and living with mom because there's no father around or the male who is around is a clueless beta male himself... and the cycle continues.
Take care Alpha, Mike Pankration sir!
That was great brother lol!! And dead on it gives me a renewed hope out there when I read this because this sensitive male shit to day is epidemic! So good to have you here my friend. +2
Immense thanks Pank. I'm grateful that there are real men - real leaders - men of character such as yourself on this site!
Tell her your alot nicer on 150mg tren daily ,
Haha man I know you're prob catching a lot of shit for this post but I'm gonna be strait with you because I've been thru this. Wht worked for me was science bro. You need to approach this as if it were a congressional hearing. Research and documentation that you can lay in her lap is about as bulletproof as it gets. Let's start by explaining to her causes and reasons of rage like overdosages, high blood pressure, unbalanced diet and sleep, and mixing with other drugs such as alcohol and recreational drugs. Then explain the precautions you're gonna take to avoid such things. Research exactly what test does to your body and show her documentation of it. So many non users only hear the horror stories and think that people on aas are crazy psychopathic maniacs that take them and gain 100lbs of muscle in a year. Lastly relate yourself to people she may admire that have done roids. Like oh I love Arnold movies or the rock is such a good actor and seems so nice. This takes the most research but find people that juice or juiced that are nice and relatable and it def eases the mind. My girl had a crazy raging ex and this was the approach I took with her and after a few cycles of not killing her she realized that I knew what I was doing and I took a logical, medical and scientific approach to aas and eventually was comfortable with it. Not sure if it helps ya out man but it def worked for me. Good luck bro!
ihearttrenKick her to the curb!
AAS>wives/girlfriends/love
Is there really this many men out there afraid of their wives/girlfriends? I will say redundantly what I have said on all the other posts like this one. Do you cheat her? Do you degrade her by not making her feel like she is the number one women you are attracted too? Do you provide for her in every way that a man should being there for her emotional, physically and financially if needed? If the answer is yes than your reputation with her should already be money in the bank. You can say to her if you find something negative about me after I use them base on the evidence of my behavior etc then I will own it, but I am going to do this because it is my body and I have never given you a reason to doubt me. If you don't support me then I will feel compelled to hide things from you because I can't trust you, then I will come to resent you for your manipulation if I give into it. I cannot be have my life led by you fears and insecurities but I am willing to educate you about anything on the subject.
aint that the truth, women are controlled by fears and insecurities, if you give her the opportunity to run with them your fucked! after that they will pull EVERY manipulation, guilt trip, fit, sex card, ultimatum, call the cops, try to kill you, and then when you break down their boning your homeboy talking about they love you but arent in love. LOL just dont let them think they are in full control....sad thing is I was always the homeboy they were fucking, so if you got a fine chick that thinks shes in control keep her away from me! :(
It would have been worse the other way around lol. I have seen this shit more times then I can remember and they always go to bone the guy who is not Mr Sensitive! I don't even think them fucking a guy who has masculinity is as bad as the pussy who drove her into his arms!
Makes perfect sense by nature that she wants someone who is assured and secure to make the call!
Sirk1981This is the best response of this thread.
That's about sums it up rite there brother. You did a great job putting it into words
I have no fear of her, only asked out of respect. Even though my opinions may differ from hers I'd still want her to include me on similar aspects of her life. Ultimately yes, it is my body and I do have the final say in the matter. But why try to bullrush the issue. If she says no after I've given her all the proper info and time to think about it then I'll have to put my foot down.
We all know I'm not hurting myself and if she can't see that then she's deliberately taking something away from me that brings me happiness.
Naturally it would be much better if I had to avoid that mess though.
I hear you brother... my wife scares me though JK :). What makes you think she will have an issue?
Just a different generation. I don't see being assured of what you are going to do and as a courtesy letting her know as bull rushing. When you said "if she says no" I assumed you were giving her a say. I just am not that way with my life that is all but you have to live and do what works best for you.
She already said she has an issue just because of how other jackasses act on gear.
Was just trying to say I'll give her a chance to see it my way instead of saying right off the bat, hey its my body. If it was just a gf then I'd be a little less hesitant to start my cycle. The fact we're getting married puts a little more responsibility on me to come together on the issue.
But you're right, and I'm similar in thinking I need to do whats best for me in the end. It's not like I'm shooting up heroin to feel good, or binge drinking to feel social.
I'm very goal oriented and the hormones I was born with is in fact holding me back. Not trying to win an Olympia, just feel and look decent haha
Show her the bigger faster stronger documentary on YouTube
not a bad idea
:whip crack:
Sirk1981I told my old lady I was on the juice about a month ago. I brought up the fact that I wanted to take them since my early 20's started doing research in my mid to late 20's and didn't start until after I turned 30, I'm 32 now. Make sure you get some good research for her to read about the benefits of Test. My old lady is cool with me taking Test, but doesn't want me on "STEROIDS", her words. I just make sure my label on my blend says testosterone and hope she never finds out what color Tren is. GOOD LUCK!
Haha, good call. I'd do the same if I wanted to run another compound, but it's just getting on anything, thats the problem now. I'll keep giving her positive info and hopefully she realizes she's making me happy by letting me do it. After all, I do all kinds os shit for her that I don't like.
Sirk1981Oh I know. Just keep calm, like you said she had a bad experience before. Try your best to make her think its her idea, then she will be forcing you to take it. LOL. My old lady is ready to pin me. I'm not sure if I want to let her get close to me with a sharp object though.
I can feel you on the genetics part bro :/ I'm 6'4, 224lbs and its fucling hard to gain muscle mass lol
My arms are my weak point...
You approach it the best way possible already lol I didn't go that approach and she found out I was on and she said for me to stop.. I didn't listen to her and she finally accepted it .. she just told me its your life I'm not gonna tell you what to do
Yeah, I know those genetics Lol! Sucks man.
But ummm as far as your girl, she just hears steroids and probably thinks Chris Benoit and Greg Valentino and all the bad publicity. Try and educate her... Give up your steroid use, or find someone else.
Thanks. Ya I've pretty much said what I can about the truth and myth of steroids, and how low doses of Test has been found to give health benefits.
All the violence she's seen from other guys has scared her. They are fucking morons. using 6 different compounds at once and running tren for months on end with no knowledge of AI's and PCT's. Mostly all white trash dickheads with TapOut shirts. It's these idiots that give the AAS world a bad name and ruin it for honest, stable, and motivated guys like us.