posted Fri, 04/26/2019 - 02:49
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Carbohydrate linked to ageing
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There's a new detailed article about how carbs and not protein promote ageing
Perhaps I didn't understand fully but it seemed to say the growth process in those "past maturity" is the same process that promotes ageing.
Perhaps some of you smarter guys can unpack that info and render an
Opinion.
Roguehealthandfitness.com/how-carbohydrates-and-not-protein-promote-aging/
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Isn't that the point? Don't eat, you die. Eat and you age... preferably about 90+ years. I'm all for promoting aging.
RustyhookerGetting old is linked to age too. Today coffe kills, tomorrow it halts cancers tada yada.....
jayiskStressing out over bullshit news articles that change every yr will age and do more damage to your health then doing everything in moderation and getting bloods.
There is no way they can take all the variables out of these articles written on stuff such as carbs and aging and with vit. and supps.
Everyone should know what the few basic vit. or supps that is needed.
anything extra really comes down to if something is off in your blood work or you have a specific health issue.
Again cant overlook the importance of managing stress. It will affect everything in your body and your emotional and mental well being.
RustyhookerBiology classes we went over stress and the overall changes. Wow!! Long periods of stress even changes dna.
You hit nail on head
I read somewhere that time causes aging. I was shocked. Who would have thought.
RustyhookerLmao!!! Thats got me lmao!
But ya, the science world back n forth on whats good now causes cancer and what caused cancer now has cancer fighting enzymes...blah blah. Lol
Alphamale500Get the fuck outta here! Are you serious? It can't be! Lol! I read something shocking lately too. It said that drinking lots of alcohol, smoking cigarettes, being obese, eating lots of sugar, and using crack and heroin, could possibly cause damage to your body! Can you believe it? Lol!
It's really crazy with some of the shit they say causes this and that. It's just getting to be too much now.
AnonI'm not big into global warming but I do like conspiracy theories for entertainment but I've read that there has been mass extinctions from temperature risings, aside from food shortages it's also had something to do with various bacteria that lays dormant in a specific host/species for hundreds of generations and then is activated by something within nature. Doesnt everyone carry the Gene's for cancer or certain types of cancer?
RustyhookerWarming, cooling, even a volcano changes the globe. Its interesting for sure!
Im not sure if everyone carrys genes for cancer but the medical folks are pushing folks to get tested early to possibly watch or thwart any issues. I got dna tested in hospital last year and they said im clear of any issues health wise but i didnt directly ask about cancer. I sure should have. My psa test came out so low it barely registered so thats good news on prostate concerns.
Alphamale500Lol! Yeah, right! There's cancer related to everything at one point or another.
Cancer has been known to the State of California to cause cancer
RustyhookerHahaha!!!
Alphamale500Yeah, Lol! Haha!
jayiskI knew Flint is horrible with their water issue but was surprised by Cali:
"California tap water linked to thousands of cancer cases, study suggests. Drinking California tap water could increase the number of cancer cases statewide by more than 15,000 over the course of a lifetime, a new study says. ... The group reported that arsenic contributed to an additional 7,251 estimated cancer cases"
StevebCalifornia is a giant tumor
RustyhookerThe trends go in circles. Eating crappy is a bad habit i too need to break.
Alphamale500Yeah I'm not sold on how carbohydrates cause aging, unless you're eating them to an extent of which they're causing you to take in lots of excess calories. Only because I've read the studies about excess calorie intake linked to aging, and restricted calorie intake being linked to increasing lifespan. But I'm guessing those excess calories could be from basically anything you're eating.
It’s the insulin.Excess carbs cause insulin response and the insulin causes the aging.
Alphamale500Oh, I never new that. I gotta read up on that.
Is that true is it? Is that why Dallas McCarver looked so aged ahead of his time then maybe...Its that certain facial look isn't it
I can’t speak on Dallas but my father took insulin for diabetes,his heart surgeon told me that insulin ages the heart.
jayiskDallas's heart was 3 x's the size of a normal heart due to excessive hgh abuse. and him abusing slin sure didnt help. if he looked old it had to do with the excessive amount and dosages of PED's he was on and from eating too many carbs.
Yes he was probably not a good example of fitness and health.He was very large though.Anabolics,GH,And insulin are probably in every pro’s formula but dosages and predisposition are different for each one.I would love to be Dallas’s size but 26 is not long enough on this earth.God Bless him!
jayiskfrom the videos i've watched dallas seemed to be a good dude. think he placed in the top ten in mr. o when he was 22-23 yrs old.
they also found he had cancer in his autopsy which he didnt know about. sure the gear would have helped the cancer grow and he would have possible died young anyway.
sad and tragic story him dying so young.
Alphamale500One thing I don't understand. Aren't diabetics basically just replacing the insulin that they don't have, so they would have the same amount as someone without diabetes? I never really did much research on insulin or diabetes.
Yes and no.They are generally in an insulin surplus because their bodies make more sugar out of everything they eat.Although insulin keeps it in check,the more you have to take the more damage it does to you body,especially your heart.The problem with the type 2 diabetic is they have proclivities that made the m type 2 diabetics in the first place.So they end up in an insulin surplus.
Alphamale500I got you. So it can really go both ways. I remember a friend of mine that was a diabetic and used to take extra insulin to help him add size or whatever.
It can do that well.It is extremely anabolic but the affect on blood sugar can be dangerous.For those that need it It is a God send.It is meant to be used with a minimalist approach.
StevebMaybe but Tren ages you bad and he took lots of it.
yea and basically everything causes cancer, carbs are our bodies number one fuel source even if they do cause ageing so be it so does the sun , but we need it none the less. To much of anything is bad
Alphamale500Yeah today it seems like they're linking almost everything to cancer. Our bodies certainly need carbs like you said. I think that these studies about carbs linked to premature aging are likely based on consuming too much carbohydrates. It's very true what you said, too much of anything is bad!
Personally I've never heard anything so ridiculous, better not lower a turd incase your insides fall out either.
I think Steroids promote aging a lot more than carbohydrates.
I’m a believer. 3 years ago, all I got hit on by were the 24 year olds. Now the silver is starting to set in, and it’s the 54 year old.
The gray is coming on too fast.
Alphamale500Please don't remind me! Lol! I got the grays coming in also. I get my haircut once a week because you can't really notice them when my hair is short. Last week, I bought this Control GX shampoo that with each wash slowly darkens just the grays. And you use it until your happy with the color of your hair, then stop until you start noticing them again. It takes about 1 week to work.
Maybe you should give it a try? They sell it in many of the popular pharmacies and on Amazon I'm sure.
P.S.- I read something about the amount of melanin, or lack of it in your body being related to gray hair. So I was thinking that maybe it's possible to stop or slow them by increasing your melanin with the addition of melanotan 2. Just some food for thought!
Look at the bright side - instant grandkids.
Watched The Equalizer 2 last night bud - awesome film if you haven't seen it
Will check it out - but the best Equalizer was Edward Woodward (loved him in Callan).
I yeh I use to love watching the series - only reason I've seen the films. First one I thought was rubbish but the second they've got it right - pretty brutal lol Washington pulls it off well
Heck yea they do
Woodsy my boy! lol It has long been known that high calorie intake shortens lifespan. This is just a newer version of a well known fact.
Yes mate, it really is old news repackaged.
Alphamale500That's true john! High calorie intake has been known to shorten lifespan, just as restricted calorie intake has been shown to extend lifespan. I was actually reading about this just recently when reading about a new supp called Pterostilbene that I recently added to my daily vitamin/supp regimen.
Pterostilbene, which is a calorie restriction mimetic, is proving itself to be very important in the fight against aging. You can read up on it guys if you like in the following study, on the following link:
Dietary Interventions to Extend Life Span and Health Span Based on Calorie Restriction
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2884086/
+1 bro!
You need some carbs for just normal body and brain function but I can see how abuse of carbs can become an issue,
StevebWhat about eskimos and inuits who for generations have never eaten any carbs? Your brain does not need carbs it can run on ketones. There's no such thing as an essential carbohydrate.
The body can make glucose from protein,but you are correct.
StevebI think what kept them from getting sick from scurvy and whatever else is that their food was mostly raw. So they didn't cook out anything important.
I have seen clinical studies on mice where total calories was the defining factor that promoted aging.
It was noted that aside from extended life span the calorie-restricted mice were more energetic and suffered fewer diseases as well.
This study basically states the same verbatim, "Hence the power of calorie restriction to prolong lifespan: fewer nutrients, less mTOR activation, longer life."
Conclusion being that less overall calorie consumption specially derived from carbohydrates combined with intermittent fasting has been clinically proven to extend total life span while improving overall quality of life in the process.