posted Sat, 12/22/2012 - 17:47
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+ 2 my GINORMOUS cycle
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im well over 25
lost track of cycle history, but alot of them now
TRT
207 right now
my height fluctuates from week to week but I think im 5'7 1/2 right now.
BF% is at 14
cycle is gonna consist of D-bol and test, very simple
1-4 D-bol 30 to 50mg/d british dragon
1-10 1000mg/w Organon, Karachi sust 250
10-20 1000mg/w Omnadren sust 250
maybe? 12-20 100mg/d Anavar
1-4 Adex liquid 1mg/E3d to keep water from D-bol off me. probably drop it after that as I generally dont need it but I adjust with my cycles as I feel needed.
pinning will be 500mg/twice a week, im going for unstable blood levels.
Also been running finpecia for the last 3 months or so and will continue through the cycle.
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well fuck! http://www.eroids.com/pics/omnadren-0
switched over to Omnadren today, I cant comment on PIP yet but one thing that is for certain. The Karachi amps are very hard to break and when they break small shards go all over, its a very poor glass used and shatters bad. with the same pen cap and light pressure the Omnadren break easy, in the same place and very solid, there is no extra pieces of glass.
Hows the pip? And wondered...i haven't used amps yet. My buddy uses serrated knife. Puts score on line like glass cutter by puttin area inbetween serrations and turning bottle...thumb pressure to help score. Does that work for you?
Omnadrens do have PIP, but it is mild, no swelling and not a very big area. feels like a small bruise which is no big deal. as for scoring the best thing I have found to use is a metal file that has 3 sides(shaped like a triangle) and very fine teeth. You got karachi's as well? or omnadrens?
I haven't tried amps yet. Keep reading mixed stories so just haven't taken the plunge. Tha karachis got great reviews last summer but the multi use vials just seem easy. I keep reviewing the hg vs ugl.
if you get the right stuff from the right source its worth it, last year I ran some Aburaihan test-e and that shit was just awesome. I mean I felt REALLY good on that cycle and I mean it didnt matter if i ate like shit for a couple days or didnt get much sleep or over trained, i mean it just didnt matter!
Awesome! Appreciate the feedback!
hey man, i've talked to someone about the Karacki, and he told me that a big party of it had a bad PIP. The are 3 types of organon, Ilaclari, greece and karacki.
And the karacki's had a PIP.
LOL yeah brother I got some of that big party! the karachi's are going on the back burner for now, gonna run the omnadrens until gone then maybe mix the karchi's with some asia pharma that i got that has NO PIP at all and see if they might work. it wouldnt be so bad if the swelling didnt last so long, my right shoulder has recovered fully but my left still has a good sized knot. Today makes 7 days since pinning that shoulder.
you could mix it with pumpkin seed oil and the PIP will dissapear, or something else.
Metal nail file bro. Score the white (or black) marking around the neck. Snaps like a twig. Nice n clean
ive done them like that before then I figured out how to pop them, but these are just a way different glass so ill try the file again.
welll one thing that has surprised me is the organon is giving me some bad PIP, the first shot hit me pretty hard but sometimes that will happen even with doc's gear, so I went ahead waited and now the second one has done the same, swelling, red, and sore as fuck. Its a little concerning for me considering I was under the impression this stuff would be smooth as silk...Im gonna drop the D-bol, I really dont care much for running it anyway. gonna drop my AI and see how this sust works by itself.
Anonexactly i would not run it until you see that you need it... you may not.... i have found my var sweet spot is 110 mg
I always keep a little Benadryl around for this. Antihistamine will take the swelling and redness down significantly. In the rare case that I would get an abscess , I keep some Augmentin around as well but usually the Benadryl knocks it out. F you go this route I would take it at night. On top of knocking out the inflammation, it also knocks me out.
hey,
Look, Organon is an old company and it is produced in many countries,
and the quality is different, BUT, a HG doesn't mean better.
A lot of UGl's when make their products than they modify the original formula a little and they make the products better than HG's. They add less alcohol, make the injection smooth. Like Kalpa bro.
well the PIP on these karachi's is just to much, swelling and red and sore as fuck, I still got a knot in my shoulder from the first pin 6 days ago. it would be almost impossible to pin this stuff EOD to get stable blood levels. my shoulder exercise was totally ruined by the PIP doing 135 on shoulder press, less then half what I normally do. ill be switching over to the Omnadren next pin, hopefully they are smooth and I can mix the two for a little less PIP...I have not used a UGL yet that is BETTER then human grade, I dont get that same powerful sense of well being on UGL, nor are my gains the same.
Any chance you have an abscess or is it just inflammation?
no its just very bad PIP, it kicks in the first day lightly, second day the entire shoulder mucsle begins to turn red with light swelling, third day its getting pretty sore too, forth day its starting to go down. I think today is day 7 for right shoulder and it still has a knot, and left should is on day 3 1/2 and still is sore as fuck and swollen. those are both from karachi's. today im pinning omnadren's
Try the Benadryl brother. It always knocks down the inflammation for me. Just make sure you take it before bed. It has a drowsiness effect on me. The doctor that Bellona works for actually suggested this to me the first time. Worked perfectly.
I been killing it with Ibuprofen but ill look into benadryl. basically if the omnadren are the same ill try to mix with some non-PIP stuff that i got to dilute it, if that dont work ill just throw it out. not doing 20 weeks of PIP.
Omnadrens should be way less painful bro. I used them last year with minimal pip. Also used the sust amps and knotted up every shot.
good to know, I did a little research on the karachi's and seen that others have complained about PIP as well. hopefully mixing the 2 will help alot.
It should, but don't expect it to totally go away if you already react bad to them
Hey,
I'll redirect this issue to my supplier of Organon and
I'll ask for some explanations. This is the first time
i hear bad feedback on Organon's.
Damn! Throw it out? I like what you're doing with the testing of the sust alone. You're right about trying to endure pip constantly. Once in a while is ok but not every pin. Any chance that shit is bunk? I've never heard of pharma giving such bad pip. But for the current issues with swelling ,Benny will help immensely. Any anti-histamine or allergy OTC. Good luck man! That would suck giant elephant nuts if you had to toss all that
OK bro,
keep us posted regarding the Omnadren.
Hey bro, wanted to ask, what you prefer, Sustanon or Test E?
ive liked them both, depends upon the cycle im running and the compounds that are involved and the goals ive set. one thing I have found with sust is that it I hold a little more water then on test-e, and although it makes me look a little more bulky it gives me a great sense of well being and my stamina for heavy weighted sets is much better, 3 minutes breaks between sets and I can throw in an extra 5/6 sets and just kill a muscle. I can already feel this sust kicking in and im thinking about dropping the D-bol and the AI early and just enjoying the sust.
How exactly does your height fluctuate week to week??
that was a joke brother!
so I did my first pin a couple days ago and dropded 30mg/d D-bol split into 3 doses morning, lunch and evening. The D-bol hit today in the gym, pumps where decent compared to norm, Im gonna let this stuff build up for several days and get the full effect at 30mg/d and then decide if I want to go higher. Headache and higher BP is always associated with good D-bol, and test for that matter. Today was my first feeling of a light headache and BP was up so I started Lisinopril @10mg/d.
AnonLooks good to me. I was always a fan of sust and I agree with you on following the old school method twice weekly. To me that just makes more sense if you're going high on the dose like you are. Otherwise ISO and deca esters will build up pretty quickly. Just curious tho, what is finpecia?
its the off brand of finastride
AnonGotcha.
Love it roid! im soo looking forward to an adrol/test only cycle NEXT winter after i get these next few cycles out of the way! +1 for reminding us BIG boys can keep it simple toooooo ;-)
Why do you want unstable blood levels?
You mean the sust ew instead of e3d?
it is E3.5D
Sounds pretty stable to me
Yeah, Noid says that he's going for unstable blood levels. I am just curious as to why you would want to do that?
there is 2 schools for running sust, one is old school and says pin twice a week, the other is new school and says pin EOD. New school is gonna give you more stable blood levels due to the short esters in sust, however old school has worked well for many of thousands of cycles. im running 20 weeks and really aint interested in EOD pinning for that long. So I didnt get the lecture on how I should pin EOD for a better cycle I went ahead and posted that im going for unstable blood levels...
Being a short ester whore myself, I have to agree with the old school here. I'm frankly just tired of pinning so much. Next run will be all long esters. Just kickers the first few weeks. I have never run that much test but I'm sure you've been at it much longer than me and have a grasp on what works for you and what doesn't. May I ask why test only (other than the oral)?
just preference on this cycle, ive never ran this quality sust and I wanna feel its full effects, that way next time around when I add another compound ill know how much is coming from what. Same principal as one new compound at a time! Im already content on my size so if I get 7 pounds out of this cycle ill be stoked, the D-bol is really just for strength, shits and giggles.
Nothing wrong with a test only cycle. Everyone gets caught up with runing this and that, it's easy to forget why test is the base for everything, shit works. I still throw in a test only cycle every so often and the gains are great.
I agree. I made my best gains on test only. I'm not dispting that. I just haven't done that in years. I used to think it would be pointless for me after all the cycles i've run. I'm just picking his brain brother
Try one give yourself a 12 week high dose test only, you'll love it.
I might just do that! Maybe a gram a week of Watson cyp. :-)
Nice, get some.
I agree but for 10.20 and 15.30 an ampule this shit should run fine by itself. the last time I ran some Aburaihan test-e it was like night and day from UGL, im hoping for the same experience.