+ 33 I'VE JUST FINISHED MY CYCLE..NOW WHAT?
You've just finished your cycle. It's been 3 weeks since your last injection, and your PCT is well under way. NOW what? You've already dropped a few pounds. Your bench has gone down by 10%, and you don't have that Superman feeling you had 2 months earlier. Your arms look smaller, and you aren't getting the compliments at work that were pouring in by the hour before. Your brain is telling you to wait another 6 weeks before you cycle again, but your heart and ego are screaming for another round. You've got plenty of gear stashed, and every morning when you reach for the coffee, there it is in the kitchen cupboard just staring at you...calling out, saying..."Hey buddy, I can end all of this misery right now. Just shoot me, and you'll be king again, and all the people who have been disrespecting you will get fadded into Oblivion."
Tempting isn't it?
But right now is the time to plan and lay the groundwork for the next cycle. AND..more importantly, it's the time to heal. After months of brutal, gut-busting workouts that have taken an incredible toll on your joints, and muscles that have grown familiar with the the patern of training you've used, you NEED this time off.
The first thing you need to do, is get as far away from the gym as possible for at least a week---preferably 10 days. I usually take 2 weeks off. That means no gym..NOTHING. No weights, no cardio, no You Tube vids of bodybuilders. Take your mind as far away from lifting as you can get it. So naturally, that also means no strict diet. Order pizza. Eat doughnuts. And watch yourself shrink. Yep, I said watch yourself shrink.
"But Goth...why would you tell me to do that? I'm trying to get buff...not blubbber."
That's right, and by taking this time off from everything to do with bodybuilding/fitness, you will prime your mind for a cycle far more effective. Without a mental and physical layoff, you are going to burn out. Trust me, I've been there.
After a week of beer, pizza, and porn, it's time to get back in the gym...but that doesn't mean to jump right back into heavy weight and super-high intensity. Doing that is only going to fry you before you start your next cycle. After I get back in the gym, I like to train at about 70% intentisity. There's no way for me to tell you what "70% intensity" is, but generally, you want to use weights that you can fairly easily do for 20 reps, yet keep the reps at only around 15. Take each set to only a slight burn. You need this type of training in order to condition the muscles and joints. I prefer to use a lot of machines and cable work during this time, saving the heavy bar work for the coming cycle when the grear is in full circulation. This is also a good time to work on the things that you probably neglect during season, like rotator cuff work, abs, stretching, and neck work.
After a few weeks of light training (conditioning), you're ready for cycle prep. The week your cycle starts, make sure you've taken in a lot of carbs and protien in preparation for your cycle frontloading. If you don't know how to properly frontload, then you need to research it. But GENERALLY, you're going to be pinning a double dose your first week, and you need to make sure you have adequate nutritional support already in place.
Lastly...DON'T WORRY about your time off cycle. That "size" you're losing is mostly just a little water (unless you're a pill-muncher who thinks oral-only cycles actually work--in which case you're fucked). Relax and trust in the fact that you'll be back on your next cycle far bigger and stronger than if you had just jumped right back on.
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Thanks, very informative, I was looking for this kind of motivation.
krutajanthat's nice summary, how it goes. Nice man!
Love the experience posts, these are a big help in getting my mind right, thanks bro!
DonJuanSSJ4What about cruising at 500mg test per week? 24/7 365 days per year?? As long as my lipids and livers are good to go? Just axing plz don't kill me. I'm gonna hide under my security blanket now.
Titsonmyman69At the end of my cycles and in between is when I mainly like to utilize peps (preferably igf1-lr) or hgh. Helps keep a lot of what could be lost during this time off otherwise. Peps are a pain in the *** but definitely work if used right and CONSISTENTLY and of course always with maintaining a proper diet.. Also I blast peps if I'm going to be off more short term, <6 months...anything more and i go the hgh route...but I'm going on a tangent now lol great post brother and thank you! This really is an important topic. The time off part is more than likely the part that is forgotten to be planned most often when planning a cycle
great post brother, very informative but relateable to everyone here,thanks
Great write up, thanks. You describe perfectlymy experience of coming off. I took 2 weeks of the gym for the reasons you gave and my body has thanked me for it and I feel my motivation for the gym renewed.
Great post! I feel like you crawled inside my mind, lol. This is exactly how I feel after a cycle.
that's a good information for my future cycling!! thank you
Great info, tnx a lot
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Man this shit it's so true I hate it! I don't stop working out but I order pizza with a side of donuts followed by ice cream and protein shakes lmao arms shrinking is always the first thing I notice to
Hahahah funny, but also really helpful read, thanks
This was a good read!! I feel better about myself for taking down a big notch after my last cycle!! The mentality is always different between the on and off seasons :).. This is my first post BTW. It's nice to be in such an informative site
Very good read. I always wondered about people saying you should continue to train with max intensity during pct. It never really made sense when you consider training at high intensity creates a temporary catabolic state for the muscle and with such low androgen during pct unable to push them back in to an anabolic state I could only conclude that train intensely during pct increased the muscle lost while in recovery.
Very interesting and yet informative. My question is: why take steroids if all you're going to do is shrink? I mean I can see taking steroids if you're going to keep what you've worked to achieve but if you're not, then why spend the money? It kind of seems like a waste if you ask me?
I joined thinking that doing a cycle will help me build and keep what I gained while on a cycle. After reading this it makes me think twice about doing a cycle now.
Why? Cause your not going to shrink off that last 4 months of gear in 1 month, not gonns happen, you'll keep 80% of your gains and when you come back on the gear your 80% ahead you just gotta get that 20% back and that only takes a month, then you have the next 3 to 4 months of training on gear to make even more gains and get way bigger and stronger than you was when you finished your cycle. The goal at the end of each cycle is to be bigger than the last end of cycle so your never shrinking back down to normal size, just losing some gear size but still keeping a lot of what you gained. Easy way to see it is like this, your 180 pounds, 4 months of gear your 220, you finish your cycle drop back down to 200 pounds, so your already 20 pounds heavier than when you began your first cycle so what happens? Your 20 pounds ahead of the game which means you'll see the same ammount of gains and you'll always be making progress. You'll always be beer than the last time each time you come off cycle. So by tI'm you finish your next cycle your 240, drop back down to 220 so basically your making 20 pound gains in every cycle which isn't bad at all. That's why we take gear that's why we cycle the gear and that's what gear is all about, getting the edge and getting ahead of the game!
Great read man,i will definetly be doing this.how long should i run with this after cycle?rsason i ask is i only want to do one 12-14 week cycle per year.thanks
Check this out...by Viking the community guru/champion brother....
know you do brother.......... you are one of those guys that now utilises all these added tweaks and looses NOTHING during PCT whereas the ones i am aiming at are more or less dropping back to normal start weight pre-cycle?........ because they dont keep the PMA (positive mental attitude) or the high cal diet in place (if bulking)...... training turns belly up because interest and the well-being feeling of being "ON" is lost......... mental focus during PCT should be kept high by concentrating on either the creatine/BCAA cycle or even better if stacked with a PEPTIDE combo........... there is enough pinning to concentrate on in a PEP run to keep even the most hardcore ED roid pinner happy............... running like this there are ZERO downsides and only more SUCCESS because gains made on the roid run will NOT be lost and the up-side is that FURTHER gains are generally made with protocols like this........... so really at the end of the day the person should never have to fkn moan that he is "OFF CYCLE" because this this way of utilising compound, PEPS and supps (creatine/aminos) really means that we are NEVER OFF....... there are no breaks , the complete year can be utilised with 2 cycles and 2 SUPER CHARGED PCTs.
Thank you bolt,now in my research and endless reading(knowledge is power) ive come across a peptide i am very interested in. What do you think about this. If i were to run igflr-3 @ 40 mcg bi lateral 5 days on 2 off for 50 days through my pct? From what ive read to keep it simple, is it lays down splits fibers and make new which i will call thread, so when i do another cycle it would turn that new thread into i'll xall it rope. Would that be a great way to get more iut of my next cycle? Its just a thought i head run through my head. Or am i wah off with what igf-lr3 is and does? Thanks again for the reply,i appreciate you vets helping me figure it all out. I just want to learn all i can and understand it all before i execute anything.
Brother I am only a vet in roads traveled. I've never used igf nor will I. Being I am a trt guy I unfortanately never run a pct. That does'nt mean I couldnt still utilize peptides in a cruise situation. I have no need though as I've chased the dragon too hard in my early years and am not introducing anything into my body that I don't already have experience with.
When I came across Vikings post it made me think...man if only I had been turned on to that mindset back in the day, coming off AAS would have not seemed like a drag. Knowledge is power brother and being that you still have the luxury of doing this RIGHT...I wanted you to come across this post so as to charge you up for the pct/down time! Maybe start a forum with this question and experience peptide users can guide you. Knuckles brother!
i appreciate it bolt and i will keep what you said in mind. I would rather not end up on trt if i can help it.and i will start a thread with it.thats one reason why i want to limit myself to just one run a year,to insure i recover.im taking what you said very seriously.me and a friend lean on eachother for that drive to keep the workouts consistant.just from the few very simple cycles ive done i know what the blues from the end of a cycle do....it truly is kind of a mind fuck. Thanks again for the info and the advice,it does mean alot.
Interesting never heard of frontloading, even though I'm fairly new to the whole community. Just doing some google research now, definitely will try next cycle!
IfbbmoeI always feel that if I give myself an adequate off cycle I get much more out of my next cycle. As in the gear hits me harder. I'm not sure if it is in my head or if maybe it has something to do with androgen receptors resensitizing or something but I swear it is the case. I have yet to try front loading gear because I worry about side effects but I think I will try it on my next cycle. Also I am going to take goths advice and finally take some actual time off to let my body and mind reset so my motivation is better
Great. Ty
All i want for xmas are my two swinging adult nuts. After first cycle in test e only and no hcg I didn't care of losing gains but getting my manhood back! Hcg is in my future.
If only I had posts such as this to read back in the day! Seriousness coupled with humor and real life scenerios...I probably would have related and just maybe would have spent the necessary time off. For anyone who happens to stumble across this in the midst of wanting to just jump back in and keep bangin like a knucklehead...I urge you to let this sink in.
Thanks for the info man, I used the protocols you mentions in this post for my recovery, very helpful
Awesome post!
I love the sound of this bro.and it makes sense
I take a week off every four months and always feel better for it
Awesome Post. I haven't even done my first cycle and I'm already looking forward to my next one.
dickjuiceOk so I have theory peptides...I'm doing a 1-10 test e with tren 5-10 then rip 200 and few shots of test-p
But I over did the first week I did my joints on hand n shoulder so I had tb-500 that I used work great training going good I'm in my 2nd week prbs start hcg from 5th or 6th
But why can't I just do peptides when off cycle surly it won't mess with my balls and thre so many types with hgh you won't get the up n down like why feel like a king when I could feel like a GOD
jeatfitnessPCT Everything you need here!!!!!
Yeah yur crazy, I'd never buy a PCT off napsgear, they hardly send out real PCT I go straight to my family doctor and get my pharmacy grade PCT, HCG Clomid and Nolvadex.
Pct is the worst time. I felt so weak and got sick twice. Defently a must but. Guys have hard enough recovering from 16 week cycles let alone years or hrt, you would probably never recover after cruising for that lonG. Time on plus pct = enough rest. Laters
just commenting on this to get into my track. great read!!!
Pretty good post but I don't agree with taking 10 days off from the gym. I don't take any time off from the gym. I just switch to light weight and high rep workout routine. I am pumping my body with HCG everyday with proviron and nolvadex. I also still take 1cc of test cyp to bridge between cycles. I am able to maintain my size and definition. I still see a reduction in strength. People still think I am on cycle when I am not. I look and feel great. Everyone is different and we all respond differently.
Define cycle for me.
there is SOOO much that could be said about that....BUT there is def nothing wrong with taking a break lol
Yeah I dnt agree with the break either, maybe take the weights down a bit to be not as heavy but stick with your normal rest days, dnt stray don't d anything different but the ammount of load you put on the body. If you get 315 for 10 reps on flat bench on cycle your gonns lose strenght so drop it down to around 260 270 for 10 reps if you can get more than so be it do more but I know my body and I drop a good ammount of strenght when I'm off of cycle. Keep the intensity moderate eat right don't stray, keep the diet keep everything the same cause your only dropping off cycle for max a month and a half if your trying to make serious gains, if your just trying to look good for summer cycle 6 months and take off 6 months cause no one sees your during winter.
I think this was for us folks who are doing PCT.
Man that sounds like you got a live feed of my brain. Lmfao. This is very good info. Time on+pct= time off,!!!!! Damn good advice. Thx brutha.
Good post bro
Thank you. Im there right now. Just finished pct and and can relate to what you said about how you were feeling. Ive been off for over a month and haven't lost any weight, strength is down, but this is to be expected. I hear that cycle time +pct time=time off? If bloods get done and are gtg do you agree with needing that set amount of time off?
Yes to cycle CORRECTLY...time on + pct = time off. You could begin sooner if your bloods do like good...HOWEVER the proper time off is to give your HPTA a full recovery. Improper time off could boost your chances significantly for premature TRT days. That and seriously increase your risk for greater testes atrophy, I do believe
I agree. Stick with the tried and true methodology.
Thanks for the info!
Super cool post
spike03zWill Hgh give you that boost to still kill it in the gym after coming of Gear
94sihatchGood shit!