Tren E vs. Tren Ace
I have ran tren ace twice before and had good results on both cycles. The first was tren ace EOD @ 75 mgs with test prop at 100 mg EOD and the second was tren ace 50 mg ED and test prop 50 mg ed (1/2 cc of a 100/100 blend).
Fortunately for me I didn't have any of the bad emotional sides felt pretty good on cycle. I used prami with both, ran hcg at 250 iu Mon/Thurs, and recovered fully after both cycles. The main sides I encountered were indigestion and loss of appetite.
I am thinking about about another tren run in April/May and would honestly prefer to give tren e a go. Since I have never run that before I wanted to post here to see which you all prefer and how the two compare so far as sides and results.
I know they are both the same compound but there if no denying that the ester effects how your body reacts. For instance, when I am on test e I am bloated, oily, and don't have quite as intense of a semi euphoric feeling most of the time. When I use test prop I am lean, clearer skin and feel like the king of the world 24/7.
I would love to know your thoughts, preferences and a comparison of the two of there are any material differences.
Thanks guys!
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i prefer ace in the summer and enth in the winter for obv reasons it has a different affect on everyone who uses it not to mention the quality etc will make the experience different.
Personally I like all the TREN esters,,,ACE,,HEX, and ENAN.
Most though prefer the quicker acting version like ACE. Its
easier to control the dosages,,effects with the faster acting
version, If you did alright with TREN ACE then you should be
just fine on TREN ENAN,
In the broadest sweeping generalisation ever made, tren e is generally used in bulking and tren ace in cutting. Personally I think tren e is over rated in bulking, I prefer deca. That's me, others will have different experiences.
Although they are the same compound, tren e has a vastly different effect on me. On tren ace I don't suffer with most of the issues complained of, (insomnia, aggression, vivid dreams etc.). About all I get even at high doses is increased sweating. On tren e I can't sleep, I dream very weird stuff and become very introverted even at tame doses. They are like two different drugs to me. Bizarrely a well known source on here has the same issues, but the other way around! Shows how we all react in our own "special way".
Those side effects make it non viable for me. I'm horrible to be around and don't perform at work, and that's something that's not acceptable to me.
The hard thing about your first run with tren e is how long it will take to get back to normal if you decide "enough is enough". Typically around 18-21 days after the last time you pin. If you're going to try it, don't go mad with dose straight out of the gate!
Not very broad, just common sense, short esters are (generally run) for shorter cycles and longer esters for longer cycles for the sake of pinning. I don't know many who have run a 6-8 wk Bulker LOL
...and tren e for bulking has its merits due to the "cheat factor" that you can eat pretty much anything and everything and the tren will still burn tough it
Thanks for the feedback brother. This definitely has me rethinking the enth because I do react so well to the ace. Like I said, just a little bit of indigestion and appetite suppression. I am leaning on staying with the ace since I know it works for me at this point.
Especially since, even though this may sound retarded, I will forget that I am on long esters that you only pin twice a week. I don't notice the gradual changes in my attitude and demeanor nearly as much. When I pin tren ace ed I look in the mirror and remind myself "you just injected yourself with cattle steroids- don't be a fuckin dick at work"
I liked that last line. I'll use that ;)
May well work out fine for you. For me as I get older I just become less of a risk taker. Cones with the grey hairs...
Haha I've been pretty lazy lately and didn't get around to putting a trademark on that line so have at man ;-)
Yeah, I know what you mean about risk taking as well. I look back on how many lucky breaks I have had and realize that my luck has to be running thin. Only way to counter that is to be smart, play safe and only make very educated guesses.
That is an intelligently written question. I think I can help you write a reasonably safe cycle yielding the same or better benefits. Hit me up in a fr if you want.
The key is going to be in calculating shot frequency with the difference in esters so you are getting roughly the same amount of the base compound as when you did the same cycles before.
I am assuming based off your question that you have reasonable experience with many cycles under your belt and you are of responsible age and practice?
Thanks for the feedback, I am going to shoot you a fr right after I finish this comment. I do have quite a few cycles under my belt, I am of an age where I am seeing TRT on the horizon (not a bad thing, I've been planning this with my doc and don't want to reproduce further). As of right now I am trying to get back to the appropriate practice. I was in a nasty car wreck that threw my out of the back of a pickup truck and almost killed me about two years ago . Fortunately I survived after a week in a coma but there was irreparable damage done to my left shoulder. It will forever sit a little crooked and the range of motion will never be the same. That crushed any real bb'ing dreams because my left and right sides above the waist will never be symmetrical. However, I refuse to let that stop me and for the past year have been training rigorously to get back in shape, do novice competitions, strength competitions and push myself to the all out max.
I've also seen the nasty side of tren back in college when a roommate of mine jumped on having done no research and went full out loco. Seeing what it did to him caused me to develop a very healthy respect for this drug and learn it inside and out before using it.
FR sent. I can't believe I haven't added you yet. Might need to pick your brain in the coming weeks, if you don't mind.
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AnonSent you an fr sir, might need your insight on something.
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Well I would stay on the ace and prop combo if you feel good on it. If it's not broken don't change or fix it.
I heard that. I just get tired of pinning ed and with how much better I felt on tren a doing ed pins as opposed to eod I could never go back. That's why I the enth sounds so nice