First Time Test-E Cycle (Bad PIP)
Hello everyone,
I am a week into my first Test-E cycle. I did a lot of research before beginning, but have some questions now.
I'm taking Test-E 500 pinned twice a week (1/2ml-250mg for 500mg weekly total) using 22g 1-1/2" needle.
So here's the scenario. I pinned my right quad a week ago today (followed all proper procedures and new sterile gear). Day 2 I had much swelling, redness, and pain (normal for first time quads I know). Three days ago I pinned my other quad and same thing. My issue is, I am now a week in and the right quad still has swelling, redness, and pain. It seems to be a little better at times, but then flares up again. Left quad is still on fire too, but that was only pinned three days ago.
I'm supposed to do my third pin today and I am switching to delts, but want to make sure its normal for quad PIP to last this long before I do. First time using any gear, but got it from a reputable source.
Is this normal?
Any help is appreciated.
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@BeeCee, just checking in on you and seeing your how your cycle is going thus far. Fill us in when you get a chance! (Unless you already have on another thread and I've just flat out missed it, in which case, my apologies!)
Thank you Zeus for the followup! My cycle is going amazing! I'm using it more for strength gain than size or bf and I have had huge gains in my training. My shoulder press and bench jumped 30lbs, my squat jumped 50 lbs. Put on bunch of weight even with clean eating.
Checking in on you, brother. How'd the cycle go when it was all said and done? Drop us a quick update when you have time.
UPDATE: Just wanted to thank everyone for the advice! My quad PIP is 10% of before (and delts no PIP) with just changing these three things:
1. Switching to 25g needles
2. Cutting 500mg/ml Test E with 1:1 ratio of Sterile GSO
3. Warming-up Test before injection (mixed reviews on this, but figured couldn't hurt)
Thank you all for being awesome to a newbie. You all rock.
Honestly I don't pin my quads because there are a bunch of veins running through your quads. And when you stab a few of them it might make you feel like you have pip..
@BeeCee, what is "GSO" ? I've also asked on the "abbreviations thread" to perhaps help other newbies out too. Link is below. Help!
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/list-of-some-common-ac...
Hey Zeus! It is sterile filtered grape seed oil. Used to cut high concentrations.
@BeeCee, thank you! Is there a "do/don't" list of oils a person should use when diluting test concentrations? (I'm sorry if there's already a thread, or many, on this subject. Admittedly, I typically surf the hell out of this site before I ask questions, simply cuz I'm pretty sure that most questions have already been answered. In this case, I couldn't find ANYTHING that told me what GSO was. Makes sense, though. Thanks for helping in my education!)
Sorry but in new to this too. There are many experienced people here to help though. I would start a thread. People have been awesome here.
is the vial cloudy in any way?
Nope super clear. From a pretty well know name so not that worried about the quality.
BigFuzzyIs the pinned area warn to the touch? If not the area you are concerned about is high in BA. It will continue with use. I've deluded before and pain didn't subside much. Best to go else where and try.
Yeah warm to the touch, red, and swollen. My right quad is finally subsiding 9 days later. Left is hitting the peak lol
Looks like irishmack has you covered. Concentration is too high and also switch to a lower gauge needle because 22 is gonna build up some scar tissue. If you need to know where to get sterile GSO pm me but otherwise looks like you're taken care of
Thank you, I appreciate the time though!
High Mg gear is going to have bad pip!
Pin with 25g. I use 22 to draw. Builds much more scar tissue harpooning with the 22
Thank you for the advice. I'll get some 25's. I thought I had some 27s but I looked and they are 31s.
Bro,
Try injecting here. No guarantee there will be no PIP BUT good chance.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/ventrogluteal-injectio...
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Thank you for that! I've heard of that site, but never knew the best way to get to it.
You can try to use a smaller pin 'just the thought of a 22 makes me think ouch!also use the search bar and look up pip lots of good info there and if you need Gso pm me I can put you in the right direction.
Thank you. Yeah I've been looking up PIP stuff for a while and even before I started, but most say it goes away in a few days, so a week later got me worried. Sounds normal I guess though.
With 500mg/ml test e the pip will never go away. Your cycle is still early yet so there is plenty of time to get some normal dosed test e (250mg/ml), otherwise you are going to be in for miserable pip ridden cycle.
Sent you a friend request I try to help you out.
yes as below, also 22s are harpoons mate, try get some 25s or 27s, 1inch will do, warm it up before pinning and shower before, also get some blood into the muscle you about to pin.
Great tips. Thank you. I actually have some 27's but I read a post that said that was too small for the oil. I'll have to try those.
The problem is its your 1st cycle and you chose the highest concentration to use. as long as you take it you will always have the pip. Next time use the 250 per ml and you might not have it so bad. Either swap it out for 250 per ml or cut it with sterile gso not the stuff in the supermarket.
Thank you for the reply. Do you think it will be as bad if I avoid the quads the rest of this cycle and do delts & glutes?
it will be worse in the delts and you might have a problem sitting on the cheek you inject. It is not going to get better. This will be a terrible cycle for you because at times the pip is going to cripple your workout. Whatever you do, do not massage the area, use aspirin and hot baths or showers to help relieve some of the pain.
Follow question if you don't mind. I have GSO on the way will be here in two days. Since I'm supposed to pin tonight, would separating into .25ml in each delt make it easier this once til that comes in?
you should be pinning 2 times a week instead of every 3 days. mon thur is a good start. keep doing the half for now until it comes in. REMEMBER when you cut it you are still going to get some pip but it might be more manageable. draw up your .5 then draw .5 of the gso then flip the needle quite a few times to try and mix it a little.
Also, I now have some 300mg/ml on the way as a backup in case the pip is still too bad. I would rather not waste the money if possible.
whats wrong with 250? why are you getting high.mg gear for your 1st cycle? Just get 250 and have a happy cycle.
My source is out of 250 is the only reason.
Go to another source.
Don't know any others, I'm new to this.
there are plenty here, just check the ask and discuss pages, read reviews, then make your decision.
Yeah Mon/Thurs is what I am doing, sorry if I was unclear in the post. Thank you again!
Crap. Thanks. I'll have to find out where to get sterile GSO then quickly.