+ 14 Primo/Bold C Bulk
Time for my summer bulk. If I can hit 225lbs at the end of this bulk then I'll look at nationals and hopefully my pro card for next summer. If I'm not happy with the weight, then another year of bulking. Probably wondering why primo for a bulk?? Well I was impressed with the lean mass that it put on me while in a slight cal deficit (nearly impossible) that I want to see what it can do for lean mass in a cal surplus. It will also be interesting to compare the results of this cycle to my last cycle. Really the only difference here is I'll be swapping out the 1-TC and replacing with primo (well, a few other ones but close enough). Gained 25lbs last cycle (only dropped 5lbs since then) so will be interesting to see what comes from this one.
My diet strategy for this cycle will be cyclic bulking.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/the-key-to-quality-mas...
My last cycle was a constant cal surplus but given the nature of primo and building lbm while in a deficit, I'll implement the cyclic approach and see if I can actually lose some bodyfat in the process. Guess you might term this a recomp, but let's just stick with calling it a bulk for now. I am hoping that the week i drop cals will reset insulin sensitivity and actually provide for accelerated anabolism/nutrient partitioning during the bulking phase (turbo-charging the bulking phase). I'll be monitoring body composition weekly to keep track of progress and to adjust diet accordingly. This will also let me know when to implement a mini-cut to reset insulin sensitivity.
Going to kick things off with the adrol right away for just the first couple of weeks to get things banging right away then I'll finish the cycle with tbol at the end. A note on the sust: the Dragon pharm sust is basically 300mg of test e/c and 50mg prop. Not true sust blend but I'll make it work. I shouldn't need to use any AI with my test just slightly above trt dose. Provi should help a bit with that also. I just feel better by running my test low and not having to use an ai. Don't really know how to explain it other than my body just feels more crisp and energized without outrageous test levels. Doesn't appear to hamper gains either since for half of my cycle last time I was running zero test and still put on 25lbs. If gains appear to be coming on strong yet, I'll continue the cycle out to 16 wks.
Gear I'll be using:
Primo and Bold Cyp Primo of the gods
Dragon Sust Euroking
Adrol UGFreak
Provi/tbol (Geneza) Naps
GH/IGF Sciroxxonline
| Week | Primo | Bold Cyp | Sust | Provi | Adrol | Tbol | HGH | IGF |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 900mg | 750mg | 175mg | 50mg | 50mg | 2iu | ||
| 2 | 900mg | 750mg | 175mg | 50mg | 50mg | 2iu | ||
| 3 | 900mg | 750mg | 175mg | 50mg | 3iu | 50 | ||
| 4 | 900mg | 750mg | 175mg | 50mg | 3iu | 50 | ||
| 5 | 900mg | 750mg | 175mg | 50mg | 3iu | 50 | ||
| 6 | 900mg | 750mg | 175mg | 50mg | 4iu | 50 | ||
| 7 | 900mg | 750mg | 175mg | 50mg | 4iu | |||
| 8 | 900mg | 750mg | 175mg | 50mg | 4iu | |||
| 9 | 900mg | 750mg | 175mg | 50mg | 70mg | 4iu | ||
| 10 | 900mg | 750mg | 175mg | 50mg | 70mg | 4iu | ||
| 11 | 900mg | 750mg | 175mg | 50mg | 70mg | 4iu | 50 | |
| 12 | 900mg | 750mg | 175mg | 50mg | 70mg | 4iu | 50 | |
| 13 | 900mg | 750mg | 175mg | 50mg | 70mg | 4iu | 50 | |
| 14 | 900mg | 750mg | 175mg | 50mg | 70mg | 4iu | 50 |
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peekyblinderthank you for that ,i only been on this site a short while and i dont get involved as much has i should really ,but one person who does is you .i have watched the input and advice you give to guys on here and you would be a credit to any forum ,so we are blessed to have here .and i think if any one can achieve there goal its you. so i wish all the best and thanks for all your input, credit where its due never hurt no one
Awesome cycle brother looking forward to the results!
Appreciate the attention to detail brother. Looking forward to seeing how this goes for you, hope you beat your expectations, GL
Makwa, do you take a similar approach with your test in all cycles? i.e., keep it barely above replacement and let the other compound(s) do the work?
I am liking it more and more and going that route now when I can. I bumped it up to 600mg to finish off with EQ for end of my last cycle, but I think I would have done just as well keeping it down around trt levels. Seems to work for me anyway. I like taking the hassle of AI out and like staying dryer. Just feels better to me and the results seem to the same anyway.
Im in the learning phase of igf1 and I'm wondering whats the reason for using it at the end?
IGF needs to be cycled since the receptors can get saturated fairly quickly. I really like finishing the cycle with it to really take advantage of the hyperplasia benefits while you body is in peak anabolic state from the AAS. You create new muscles cells with the IGF and then blow them up right away with the anabolics. Win win scenario. I may experiment with some DES this go around but my staple is LR3. I can't believe how much quality weight I packed on last cycle and the cycle wasn't that outrageous. That was my first time using IGF and I think it might be the game changer.
From what I understand about it, and read from people that have used it you are spot on saying it could be a game changer. Im really excited about it and hope to use it later this year. So because the igf is creating new muscle cells it sounds as if could be used at the beginning or middle of the cycle. I suppose an arguement could be made to run 2, 4 week cycles during a long aas cycle . And then have the remainder of the cycle to really blast the new cells with the aas. Thanks for answering my ? Really looking forward to hearing how things progress for you!
This looks awesome! FYI if you inject 2ml or more of that bold cyp at a time you might get some uncomfortable pip. Why sust instead of cyp or E?
Read his entire description, its dragon pharma which is essentially test e test c and prop
Eh your footnotes did the trick
This is a thing of beauty.
I was always told to be careful with dht derivatives for the hairline but man I wish I can run a cycle like this. Clean vascular gains and incredible stamina. Please take before and after pics.
As a guy who's been steadily balding since 22 I always laugh quietly to myself when I read some variation for this comment. It is sooooo nice not to have to worry about hair. Losing it, styling it, getting it cut. Don't miss it one bit. Sweet freedom!
Cycle is a bit out of my league for any comments, but like said below, much respect for your planning the details, hope this gets you to nationals brutha! ...I will be looking for updates, curious on how the primo will work with the cyclic bulking .....good luck!
That is A LOT of oil and injections. Ouch! That's a hell of a costly cycle, too! You've got some serious investment in this one!!! Fuck me running. However, Makwa, you have a solid head on your shoulders when it comes to the mentality, "use the right tool(s) and the right approach for the job" regarding AAS. You've earned my respect, many times over. I'm wishing you well with this "bulk/recomp" and I have no doubt that you'll achieve your goal.
My avatar doesn't have shit on you, brother. YOU. ARE. AN. ANIMAL!!! Go forth and dominate.
If the primo wasn't dosed at 150mg/ml then I wouldn't be running this cycle since it definitely would be too much volume for me to handle otherwise. Pinning EOD the volume is not to bad.
curious how your using the sust. Breaking the 175 into eod pins?
The sust is dosed at 350mg/ml. What I was planning on doing was just putting a little bit in (0.1ml) with each pin. Doesn't sound like much. lol I may put in an extra 0.1ml here or there but we'll see how it goes and adjust as needed.
Best of luck bro i'll be watching. So much to learn from guys like you.