+ 10 DHB/EQ cycle
Finally got to the point where I got rid of my covid fluff and now ready to run another cycle. Going back to one of my favorite compounds. DHB. I really like the synergy of DHB with EQ so that is what I will be doing. What I am most excited about during this cycle is doing a couple rounds with IGF-LR3. Been a long time since I have used it but had phenomenal results when I did so I will be able to fit 2 cycles of it in this cycle. Running it with HGH of course. I will be using 2 different brands of IGF so I will be able to give a report on both.
I am debating on whether or not to run an oral during this cycle. If I do it will be a short pulse of Adrol between my two IGF runs.
As for diet, nothing fancy. Beginning of cycle I will just stay at maintenance until things get ramped up and then I will bump up to slightly above TDEE (+250-500 cals) and look for a lean tissue build. Will be around 400g/d for protein and carbs will be adjusted depending on how I look or feel. The HGH should help keep any or at least most fat accumulation to a minimum and along with the repartitioning effects of the GH and DHB most of that calorie surplus should be quality tissue. That is the plan for now but based on how the stack of everything is working the diet may evolve if need be.
Pre-cycle weight 214 lbs
Breakdown of the cycle
**Test C/EQ Valky Mix-B from Teamroids promo
I will be using the Valky Mix-B as my test base and the EQ. Mix B is 200mg Test C and 200mg EQ. Loading up on it in the beginning and then dropping it down for rest of cycle once I introduce the DHB. DHB is such a receptor hog that I have to much aromatization if I run test to high. By lowering test once the DHB is introduced I should be able to get by with minimal AI and really let the DHB do its work. I like having just a touch of EQ mixed in with DHB since I noticed a real good synergy between the two. I also get some anxiety with EQ when I run it higher so this should help to avoid that also.
**DHB AlphawolfsLabs
I had been looking for some higher dosed DHB for a long time and finally found some. 200mg/ml and essentially no pip with this lab so I am stoked about that. I know what DHB can do so I'll know for sure if this lab has legit DHB at 200mg/ml Fingers crossed. I have stocked up on a ton of it. Normally I run DHB around 400mg/wk but since this is pip free I am going to put a little more in since I have some barrel space since it doesn't need to be cut with something else to reduce pip.
**Provi DC Pharmaceuticals and Parapharma from TeamRoids
I really like the feeling I get from running provi and I think it is almost essential when running my test a little lower in a cycle. 50mg has always been a good dose for me split AM and pre-WO. Never used the provi from either of these so I should be able to get a good read from both of them.
**HGH Primetrope, Novotrope (Sciroxx)
I used to really never run much HGH but now that I am old as dirt I find that it really makes a huge difference for, espcially in terms of helping to keep the fat off and even trim down while in a slight calorie surplus. Once I get above 3iu/d I start noticing the repartitioning effect so I am going to try and ramp this up to at least 6iu, higher if I am not noticing much in the way of negative side effects. I have a pretty good stockpile of HGH now I will likely be running an additional brand, but I will note what it is if I decide to do that. Once above 3Iu I will split dose AM and pre-WO. 3iu or below is all taken pre-WO.
**IGF-LR3 Somedin (Sciroxx); Pharmaqo
This is the part of the cycle I am most hyped up about. I loved the feel and quality size I put on when I did a run of this a few years back. Kicking my self for not running it more often but that is going to change now. I really love the Somedin from Sciroxx. That is the only IGF I have ran and is pretty much the standard for how I will judge any other IGF is use.
I know it is legit and Karl is a wealth of info on the subject. I am waiting until the mid and late end of cycle to run it since I want to be fully loading on the AAS and HGH when I incorporate it. Build new muscle cells with the IGF and blow them up with the AAS. Synergistic effect with HGH so I wouldn't run IGF without HGH. I have a range for the amount of IGF I will be using so I will be adjusting dosage depending on how it is feeling. I know at 40mcg my last run the pumps were skin tearing. Dosage has to bumped up as cycle of it progresses though so I want to get up to 100mcg by the tail end of the run to see what it is like or if I notice any improved results. I already have a couple of forums on this that I will probably have to start up again to get some more recent feedback.
https://www.eroids.com/forums/hgh-peptides/rhgh/better-response-to-aas-w...
https://www.eroids.com/forums/hgh-peptides/rhgh/why-hgh-when-we-have-igf1
https://www.eroids.com/forums/hgh-peptides/peptides/igf1-lr3-dosing-prot...
**AI - Aromasin (Dragon Pharma - UGFreak)
I should be able to get by with minimal AI use with this cycle. 250-300mg of test about the max I can get away with without an ai but I know DHB is a huge receptor hog so I will most likely need a little bit. 12.5mg EOD should suffice for this cycle.
| Week | Test C/EQ | DHB | Provi | HGH | IGF-LR3 | Aromasin |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 600/600 | 50mg ED | 3iu | |||
| 2 | 600/600 | 50mg ED | 3iu | |||
| 3 | 600/600 | 50mg ED | 3iu | |||
| 4 | 300/300 | 500mg | 50mg ED | 4.5iu | 12.5mg EOD | |
| 5 | 300/300 | 500mg | 50mg ED | 4.5iu | 40-100mcg | 12.5mg EOD |
| 6 | 300/300 | 500mg | 50mg ED | 4.5iu | 40-100mcg | 12.5mg EOD |
| 7 | 300/300 | 500mg | 50mg ED | 6iu | 40-100mcg | 12.5mg EOD |
| 8 | 300/300 | 500mg | 50mg ED | 6iu | 40-100mcg | 12.5mg EOD |
| 9 | 300/300 | 500mg | 50mg ED | 6iu | 12.5mg EOD | |
| 10 | 300/300 | 500mg | 50mg ED | 6iu | 12.5mg EOD | |
| 11 | 300/300 | 500mg | 50mg ED | 6iu | 12.5mg EOD | |
| 12 | 300/300 | 500mg | 50mg ED | 6iu | 12.5mg EOD | |
| 13 | 300/300 | 500mg | 50mg ED | 6iu | 40-100mcg | 12.5mg EOD |
| 14 | 300/300 | 500mg | 50mg ED | 6iu | 40-100mcg | 12.5mg EOD |
| 15 | 300/300 | 500mg | 50mg ED | 6iu | 40-100mcg | 12.5mg EOD |
| 16 | 300/300 | 500mg | 50mg ED | 6iu | 40-100mcg | 12.5mg EOD |
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Nice cycle. How much of a difference did running IGF with HGH make do you think? Never ran IGF before.
The true benefits from running IGF come down the road later. The main reason to run it is for hyperplasia, only compound that does that. So we are creating brand new muscle cells/fibers with the IGF. We then have to build those muscle fibers up. ie hypertrophy, which doesn't happen overnight but really benifits from running a cycle. Create the new muscle fibers with IGF and then increase their size with AAS. What I really notice when I run IGF during a cycle is that I lose very little weight once the cycle is over. The new muscle fiber is retained. The results are not immediately seen with IGF like putting on a ton of weight initially but it happens more gradually as the fibers hypertrophy and is noticed later in the cycle or after cycle is over. Every cycle of mine now includes at least one IFG-LR3 run.
@Makwa very grateful for your contributions. believe me I admire you and I'm not saying it to look good. It is only the truth and I am trying to learn and be like you always helping. happy New Year.
Cycle has been over for a few weeks now so safe to say all the glycogen loading has gone and I can get the true results of my cycle. Gained 1lb and dropped 3% BF. So overall very happy with cycle. Gained 6lbs of lean tissue and dropped 8lbs of fat. Pretty good at this stage of the game. Just been on 150mg/wk test e and 3.75iu HGH until next blast.
RustyhookerExcellent job!
Good job,u dedication make this happend,im jeaulous because i need been off but, but the vigororexia is kilo me lol thinking doing same cycle u do just add hcg and hmg on all cycle and the PCT too
EQ and primo suppresses but does not close the axis, DHB suppresses or closes the axis?
As far as I know DHB will shut you down. It is a whole lot stronger than primo or EQ.
Okay bro thank you i will take it in consideration
Hows it coming along bro? I feel ya on the heat aspect of DHB. Sheesh I was hot as fuck at work today. Face all sweaty red and oily from the masteron. Lol
Dustined83Thanks for the update. I like the amount of time spent preparing for the cycle. I used to just right in but as I get older planning I'd definitely more important than ever.
I was curious about dhb so I appreciate you explaining how it feels. I've never even seen it at 200mg I figured pip would be horrible. Keep up the hard work!!
Little update on the cycle. Sorry I haven't provided more but here are the cliff notes.
Just starting week 7 and up 6lbs. Currently sitting at 220. Six pounds may not sound like much but there is a huge recomp taking place. I have dropped 1 pant size and gone up one shirt size. Calories have been at or slightly below maintenance and still building muscle.
At about the week 4 mark is when I really started to notice a big change. Ran 600/600 test EQ through week 4 so I will change that in log. I had 3 different people that week come up and ask if I was prepping for another competition so the visual change in the recomp was definitely noticeable. I also started to retain a little bit of water and started my AI 12.5mg/Ed for 5 days and dumped almost 3 lbs. I also started to get some anxiety feelings which I sometimes do running EQ. Only happened once before and started feeling it again so bumping it down 300 was perfect timing and not experiencing any issues now.
Been on the DHB for a few weeks now this seems like some strong DHB. I am already sweating like a whore in church. I have to wear a headband working out because I have so much sweat dripping in my eyes otherwise and can't even see. I think people are wondering why I am sweating so much when no one else is.
Sheets and pillows are soaked at night too and just all around hot all day. This enhanced thermogenisis is classic sign of DHB I have noticed. Should only be getting better from here on out. Vascularity is also improving in shoulders and chest.
I pretty much bumped up the HGH from 3iu to 6. I wanted to get it up there so I could get a run of IGF in since things seemed to be banging on all cylinders now. Stuck with the primetrop and some slight numbness in hands when sleeping but not unbearable. Ran through almost a complete kit of the IGF and things really changed. Ran at 50mcg immediately preworkout along with 3iu HGH and then intraworkout carbs. By my second day I was constantly walking around with a perma-pump. Hard to even shave or brush teeth because I would get too pumped up. Felt really good in gym and jumped up 3lbs after 2wks on it. Hand numbness also increased significantly so I had to back down the HGH to 3iu instead of 6 for a few days here and there and that helped. This last week I have also had 2 more people come up to me and say that I look bigger everytime they see me, which is a good sign that things are going in right direction.
Current plan is to continue on with same diet (at or slightly below TDEE) and pulse some adrol right after I am done with the IGF. Biggest I have ever been at 220 and liking the look but think it will be better to drop just a little more fat and take it from there.
Rustyhooker220 at your height and conditioning is awesome!!
Anxiety....possibly water load and not eq or is that just eq for you in general?
Only thing I have experienced those feelings with is when running EQ so I think I just have to attribute it to the compound.
RustyhookerSounds legit. Quite a few folks do get it on eq.
Let me know what you think about the Dragon Aromasin.
I like the cycle man. Well planned. I am currently on wk 5 of my first DHB cycle Test E 600, DHB 400, Mastabol 400, proviron 50 mg ED and I did a Dbol kick start at 60mg ED
I normally run my test at 5-600 with no issue but started noticing some gyno flare up around wk 4 and Arimidex didn’t seem to do anything for it. My question is, do you think I need to lower my test because of the DHB strong binding affinity? The whole cycle is from Alpha Wolf Labs btw and it’s solid stuff. My review is posted on the page.
I almost forgot to ask, I have been thinking about maybe substitute some mastabol for EQ. I want the appetite boost from the EQ since I am not a big eater.
With DHB in my cycle I found I had to increase my AI dose then I normally would take with say a 500mg test E cycle. The DHB has a stronger binding affinity for the receptors so in order not have issues with estro you need to increase your AI or back down the test dose.
Interesting,maybe i do that 300mg test dhb 400mg 500mg EQ o u think EQ and test need be same dosage?
EQ and test don't need to be the same dosage. That looks like it would be good stack.
200mg alpha dhb how he treats you? DC pharma have 200mg too but i dont read any personal opinión about the pip yet
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muscle4pluswhat about keeping same ai but adding tamox on top of it do you think would it work too? planing on dhb cycle but dont like upping ai dosage
HIgh estro can cause other issues than just gyno so it is best to keep it within range using an ai.
RustyhookerAlmost like a 3 week front load. Dhb should be peaked week 8 then. Wonder if theres and lag felt during that spot but as you said, theres always orals if needed.
I am not expecting to notice any lag. Pretty much subbing in DHB for the lowered test and EQ. About the same amount of AAS being pinned and the EQ will take awhile to fade away. That would be a good time for some orals though. It looks like there might be a lag on paper but it is really hard to notice that sort of in real life. I think if the DHB wasn't taking its place I would notice the drop though in a couple of weeks. I am kind of expecting a bump in intensity since the DHB is so much stronger so in a few weeks things should really be banging.
RustyhookerDhb sounds like a fun ride for sure! Will be following for updates
Whats the goal of this cycle bro? Lean gains/recomp?
Main goal is to add some mass but there will also likely be a recomp to go along with that. I will be eating in a slight cal surplus but I have found with DHB that it possess some real unique recomp effects. I think it has to do with its high binding affinity. Once it gets going it has me sweating like a whore in church, similar to tren. Really seems to ramp up the thermogenisis and keep any fat gain to a min. That coupled with the GH should have me dropping fat this cycle even a cal surplus. There might obviously be some fat gain but the ratio of muscle to fat should result in an overall recomp in favor of muscle.
Sounds solid. Im still up in the air on how I want to run it. I have 10 vials of 100mg.