posted Thu, 04/30/2026 - 14:21
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Test cyp vs prop
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I've been on trt dose for about a year and half slowing increasing my dosage with testing every couple months to see how I handled it. Learned quick AIs will tank my e and that shit absolutely sucks.
Anyway I've been using test cyp all this time but recently started trying some prop. Im not sure if it's normal for prop but I get much more of a lump and pain from prop. The prop is lower mg/ml so I use more volume per inj and this is all subq.
So maybe it's the different Ester and or the higher volume? I also dont have alot of body fat so there isn't much room in there either maybe?
Is .5ml prop too much for subq? Will IM be a better route?
Thanks
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I'm using 100 mg prop every other day and had to switch to IM. SubQ left big bumps.
You were pinning 1ml SubQ EOD????? Holy shit bro
Didn't blur out your face on a forum that sells illegal compounds?
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Maybe im just a tiny weak bitch but 1ml IM in one spot even sounds like a lot to my rookie ass
No, I started with 20 units and increased up 50 units. That left a bump. A guy I'm following recommended a good first blast would be to do 100 mg every other day. I knew I needed to go IM for that. It was my first time pinning IM. Now that I've done it couple of times, no big deal.
Thanks for the heads up the photo. I didn't even think about blurring it out because of the content on here.
Do the prop im but you also have to do some math if you want the same dosage as your cyp. Most people think 100mg of cyp and 100mg of prop are the same but they forget ester weight. So 100mg of cyp os actually on 70mg of test and 100mg of prop is 85mg not much but it is a difference
Thank you for the knowledge brother. I knew there was some difference but wasn't sure how much.
Did delt this morning. Only 35 vs the 50 I was doing just to see how it's tolerated in there
Its probably one of those things you need to get accustomed to a bit
Highly recommend IM i use a 29x1/2 err day mast p and test p
You mix those together? How much at once do you push?
sub q with prop is a no go imo. I would only go sub q with test e and maybe c but no higher than .3ish, I think at .5 you're pushing it and risking sterile abscess
Shiiiit…0.5cc of your mast prop and 0.5cc of your test prop every day through a 30g 1/2” needle. No pain. No lumps.
Subq? Same spot?
Shallow IM. I have practically no body fat at the moment
shallow IM is okay since it can spread out in the muscle still, sub q tends to get trapped between the fat cells and sits, which is great for things like TRT since it creates a bit of a slow release and more even levels but if your body decides it doesn't like it there it'll treat it like an infection, it'll trap it in a little ball of white blood cells to prevent infection. This is more likely to happen with more volatile and irritable gear, imagine something like DHB crashing under the skin, yikes.
That would suck ass... I did delt yesterday. Only 35u instead of 50 just for science. No lumping but some soreness today. I did test prop on one side and mast prop on the other side at 20u. Test side noticeably more sore im presuming from the increased volume. Maybe the test is just more irritable
OK that's what I was worried about. Ill give the IM some go.
Thank you kind sir
Highly recommend trying the intramuscular route brother. It's not near as bad as you may think if you've never done it. Watch a couple videos on how it's done. My best recommendation if you do choose IM....warm your oil before pinning. You'll get better dispersion, easier flow thru pin and less chance of lumps or irritation.
I will try the warming. Will also be conscious pushing slower as I think I might be blasting it in to quickly.
Thanks bro
Yes. If your doing IM you should inject slowly. You can dart the needle in, but just inject slowly. The warming method is very helpful.
I ALWAYS will hit my loaded dart with the ol lady’s hair dryer before pinning, works like a charm.
I run my barrel under hot ass water for a couple min with my drawing pin on then dry it off switch tips and blast it. Super smooth every time.
Good idea! I set the vials in warm water this morning but heating just the dosage amount is way more efficient.
Thanks bro
It's strange because I would inject .25ml of test e which would be equivalent to 62.5mg on Mondays and Thursdays on my cruise up until last month and I would get pip everywhere but in my delts. I started a mini blast with the same brand test prop at 50mg per day and it's smooth as hell, I read about it being more prone to causing pip but jeez I'm having such a good time with it. Not sure I want to go back to Test E for my maun blast and then cruise.
Thats where im at with .5ml of 100mg/ml prop a day. Im running out of subq spots quick though haha. 1/2 needle might be fine in my delts as the skin is extra thin there on me.
Not sure if longer needles are recommended due to average amount of body fat needed to get through or if it needs to go deeper in the muscle?
ooh okay, I don't run it subq. I use a 29g half inch insulin syringe and I'm doing 6 injections per week - I take Sundays off. Left delt, left pec, right pec, right delt, left trap, right trap. I do my cruise test e dose in my delts and had done so even at 30% + bodyfat.
Ill give it some more go in the delta. New to IM. Gotta kinda psych myself up a little before I go jabbing in muscle haha
Prop can be painful for some. Nature of the ester
By painful you mean also inflammatory? The pain sucks a bit but the huge lump is worse
The pain comes from irritation. Likely the hormone slightly crashing out of the depot in the injection spot. Irritation causes an inflammatory response by the body. So yes. Sub q can also leave non painful lumps due to the slower absorption of the depot. 0.5ml shouldn’t be a long lasting lump in that case though. Would be gone within 24 hours in my experience.
Shorter esters will cause this in some folks. Shorter esters have a faster release and can cause more inflammation. Likely also a higher concentration of solvents. I always go IM no matter the dose, never been a sub q guy.
Right on. I've heard this and kinda figured that's what was goin on. But wanted some experienced feedback.
Wasn't sure if i was doin it wrong with the volume goin subq.
Will 1/2 needle be sufficient for IM? I already have a huge supply of those...
I use 29g 1/2 in delts typically. Why the switch from c to p?
OK and how much volume typically you through in there like that?
I did do one in my delta last week at .25ml just to test those waters out and I didn't get lumps but a little soreness for a couple days.
I was getting cyp from a trt doc. But I stopped that.
I have some sustanon im dosing at my baseline trt levels and then supplementing with the prop to go on a couple month cycle when I'll get some bloods to see how it's all looking.
My thought was if I started feeling off I could drop the prop and be out of my system quicker. I have adex on hand too just incase I need.
Okay gotcha, i typically will not go above .7 for delts. I’ll do pecs if .5 and under. Anything about 1ml I’ll switch to 27 g 1 inch into glutes. But I rarely do that anymore. I’m a daily injection guy, sometimes up to 3 shots a day. After the first few times the pain should subside.
I dont mind everyday either but not subq if it's gonna be like this.