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Question for you all. At what point do you believe you’re getting the most bang for your buck out of your Test dose before it just becomes more side effects without added benefit?
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samuiIn my experience, there comes a point where adding more just doesn't seem worth it. You might notice a bit more size or strength, but the extra acne, higher blood pressure, poor sleep, or mood changes start catching up. I'd rather make steady progress while feeling good than chase every last bit of muscle. Good training, eating right, and staying consistent have always given me better long-term results than simply increasing the dose.
Somewhere around 400-500mg before your estrogen, hairline and sleep quality start voting against you unanimously.
Everything above that is basically paying a premium for side effects with a small bonus on the side.
350-400 week/avg test p
600 week test e
700-800 week sustanon
This puts my levels in the happy place.
I can do a good bit with less, but I want my appetite through the roof. If I have to force feed, I’m fucked.
500-600.
I like 300mg to start. After 4 weeks l see how l feel. I run 16 weeks and keep sides to a min.
200mg daily.
You animal
500 for bulking. Last offseason ran 500 test 400 primo and felt and looked great. Running the same next offseason just pushing the duration longer.
For cutting I like it lower like 200 to keep water retention down then if desired add other things for cosmetics like mast/var.
After many years of trying to get the balance right. 250-300 test with an equal amount of primo seems to work best for me.
Ran up to 750 test before when I was young but now I stick to low doses
@Petecastiglione
My question is. Is it how much test a week or what are testosterone levels are more important for the best cycle
So I’m at 2,700 test levels 70 estrogen it’s not in front of me but I think 1,500 free test
Feeling great other blood work came back good DR SAYS. NOW WHATS the highest testosterone levels to make the best gains. Do I up the dose to get to WHAT total number
You're gonna have different answers from everyone, because everyone feels a little bit different based on their unique characteristics. However, I am persuaded by Todd Lee's logic here. To just use Testosterone to get your levels where they should be, Somewhere around 1100, then let the Actual gear do what it's supposed to do. The reasoning for this logic is that on a milligram per milligram basis, And used intelligently, AAS generally will have less side effects.
I was on a poor batch of test where my levels were 1600-1700. The great Makwa commented I was in an anabolic state, but hitting that 2500-3000 threshold was ideal. Sure enough when I got on properly dosed test and reached those levels, it was night and day difference.
How much test were you on to get to 2500-3000?
In what aspect was it a night and a difference? Effectiveness? For sure, you would grow more with AAS and a high level of test, That's not in debate, More of a personal preference for longevity and reducing side effects for me. I have oral Primo acetate, like 10 boxes. I was considering to try to use to see how it went with a higher test level at some point.
Appetite, recovery, aggression, increase in body temp… the greater those are, the better results. The gear is like adding a supercharger to the engine, you still need other things to make it function.
Sides are going to be a result of anything worth gaining. The question is what degree are those sides affecting your everyday life. I don’t aromatize. I rarely bloat. Finding that medium is paramount.
I don’t think enough people push the threshold intelligently. It seems there are two completely different spectrums now.
Have you ran high test and experienced sides or are you just “prepared and cautious”?
I've ran 300 to 350 mg weekly max, no real side effects there, the only time I had really serious side effects was with Tren, started at 10 mg daily and went to 20 mg daily, you specifically told me in a different thread, not to use it for BJJ, NPP was better and I didn't listen, it actually destroyed my game. I was walking around like a fucking balloon, could barely move. I need movement.
Ya dude. The other drugs is where you really start to get nasty stuff if you aren’t careful lol. I bet your cardio went them rough the floor. NPP/Deca have been spot on for BJJ with me.
Thanks for the reply
I keep settling between 750 and 850, but I truly think I could just keep going up and up. My body does not aromatize for shit, which is good and bad. The littlest addition of some primo and my estrogen is GONE, girl. Knowing this, I am trying a test/primo/deca cycle to see how that works for me to put on some size and keep my e2 at a solid spot. Currently running 850 test with 280 primo and 475 deca, and that's got my estrogen at just the right spot.
So far my happy spot has been 400mg. I experimented with 800 before and didn't really notice much difference. My scale weight went up a few pounds, but I genuinely believe that was more fluid retention than lean mass.
I haven’t gone over 600 yet and that dose feels good for me.
425mg. Ran 700+ once and felt really no difference so fig why am I injecting more?
Ran 600mg test 200 eq. At the end last blast. I think 400 100 is my sweet spot for my old ass.
450-650 for me. Running 650 Test, 550 Primo, 200 NPP right now. Anything more and I start to feel pretty inflamed and it’s like my immune system is taking an hit. All of it starts to hit my sleep pretty hard, also.
I’ve pushed into the 1gram territory, but I have to skip primo for AI management because of the oil volume and have to start using an AI (which I don’t like).
Depending on the other drugs you’re using. I particularly like less testo like 300-600 weekly + other stuffs. For cruise 300mg is enough
To minimize pip and test flu I usually do 12 to 1500mg I prefer to use a high mg Ethanate like 400 to 500 soni can dilute with the other compounds a three time a week pin schedule is a sweet spot for me .... I feel your always battling inflammation...cause we want it in the muscle but pushing food and gear it's thin line between steady growing and feeling really fucked up .... Who wants to be Greg kovaks or wanted to be
1500 mg plus 1 mg anastrozole Daily
1mg daily??? Good gawd your e2 conversion sucks!
That’s actually insane and he should lower dose by like 75% lol
So.
For exemple yu do 1500 mg Testo enanth weekly plus 50 mg trestolone daily plus 50 mg dbol with only 1 adex every 3 days? Have yu ever cecked your e2? In a cycle like this 1 mg daily is the must.
No way
500-600
Depends on the goal for me- recomp/cut lands me around 400mg/wk.
Growing phases I try to a move it around 700mg-1g
For me, anywhere from 400mg up to around 1.2g depending on the goal. I know guys pushing 2g+ and still growing, but personally I feel like past a certain point it’s just diminishing returns, like Pete mentioned…more side effects without matching gains.
I adjust based on the stack and phase, but that mid-to-high range tends to give the best bang for the buck without unnecessary stress
I usually aim for about 500 mg per week on a blast, but I tend to land closer to 600 since I can get a bit generous with the plunger, haha. Later this year I’m planning to add some Primo, which should let me bump my test a bit higher. As for side effects, the only thing I’ve really noticed so far is some mild, occasional irritability.
Most bang for the buck isn't test dose but sbgh control.
The second is ester.... Test is not test ....forum all med cited.
so are you a fan of proviron?
Many orals subdue the sbgh. Var, winny, tbol, provi etc. Provi is a nice addition to test deca mast in a big cycle
750 - 1200
Individuals all respond differently.
Monitoring bloodwork pre & during should reveal to the individual that exact answer.
For example I myself can take high test if the dosaging protocol is consistent & more frequent.
Likewise I know people who take 1cc 200 ml of cyp & turn into a water buffalo, w acne everywhere.
It honestly doesn't matter what someone else is able to take, what matters is how you the individual can optimize & maximize your own protocol.
Without bloodwork pre & during its all just a guessing game including how much if any AI you may or may not need.
Jrihard89Yeah you tell Pete! He’s small as fuck ;)
Well I do not know Pete. Some people are smaller than others. Is Pete "small' in American or small for Thailand?
Dude he is tiny like a dwarf midget just go look at his pics on his profile....
I found pete on stage lol
LMAO... yes that is totally him! That is why it's so easy to man handle him and turn him into our little bitch.
LMFAO
Yeah! And has beautiful hair!
This is true. Lucky bastard has a nice mop
Jrihard89THE WORST… Thinking he can look all juicy, wife beater and beautiful hair.
I think we need to oil a bro up
That outta teach him a lesson.
I love to see everyone’s responses because i see people running a gram + but I don’t feel like I get anything more other than bloat after 750mg, I’m always paranoid I’m missing out on gains hahaha @SimonM84 @TheOGof93
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