N ipple lump likely caused by too aggressive Adex use?
I believe the lump and nipple pain I experienced were caused by overly aggressive Adex use at the beginning, not by high estrogen itself.(I Took adex 2 weeks ago friday 1mg then 2 days After 0.5 and then the next day 0.5)
About two weeks ago, I took a relatively high amount of Adex over a short period. A few days later (saturday next week), I developed nipple pain and a small, movable, pea-sized lump under the nipple.
Last week I saw a doctor, and he advised me to stop taking everything. I followed that advice. Since then, the pain has completely disappeared and the lump is no longer noticeable.
That’s why I think this was more of an estrogen crash / hormonal irritation rather than real gyno.
My question is: has anyone experienced something similar where nipple symptoms appeared due to too much AI, and then resolved after stopping it? I want to proceed very cautiously and avoid overcorrecting again.
How should I start or what do you advive ty.
I know i rushed it i did a big mistake.
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Brother, let’s clear a few things up because this is important.
Yes … nipple pain and lump can happen from BOTH high and low estrogen, and also from prolactin imbalance. That doesn’t automatically mean “gyno formed”, but it does mean you triggered the gyno pathway. Think of it as a warning shot.
Now, the main mistake wasn’t just the dose … it was timing and approach.
When nipple sensitivity starts, that already means estrogen is binding in breast tissue. At that moment, slamming Adex is NOT the correct move. Adex only lowers systemic estrogen … it does nothing to block estrogen already acting in the nipple tissue.
That’s why the correct first-line move IMO is:
Nolvadex (tamoxifen) 20–40mg/day
Because this blocks estrogen directly at the breast receptor, which is what actually stops gyno from forming.
At the same time:
Adex at a LOW dose (0.25mg) just to gently control circulating E2 … not crash it.
Your protocol should’ve been something like:
• Nolva 20–40mg/day for 10–14 days
• Adex 0.25mg 2x/week MAX
• Bloodwork after 7–10 days then adjust
Instead, you nuked your estrogen:
1mg … then 0.5 … then 0.5 in days
That’s way too aggressive for most people and easily crashes E2.
Crashed estrogen can ALSO cause nipple pain, irritation, and even temporary lump formation due to hormonal instability. That’s probably why everything disappeared once you stopped.
So your logic might be partially right, BUT…
It just didn’t fully organize into permanent tissue yet.
Basically, that means:
• You caught it early
• You got lucky (my guess)
• But next time, same approach = higher chance of permanent gyno
Now about doctors…
No offense, but most doctors don’t understand steroid-induced gyno protocols.
“Stop everything” just lets hormones rebalance naturally … which sometimes works, sometimes doesn’t.
If real gland forms, nothing reverses it except surgery.
About AI dosing … this is where guys screw up badly:
People throwing around:
1mg Adex EOD … this destroys most people’s estrogen
IMHO that’s the best approach:
• Bloodwork If possible then
• Start at 0.25mg 1–2x/week
• Adjust only after bloodwork
• Everyone aromatizes differently
Crashed E2 is just as bad as high E2:
Libido death, mood issues, joint pain, bad lipids, poor gains, hormonal instability …
which ironically can trigger nipple symptoms
IMO Bloodwork is king. Especially for newbies, relying on feelings instead of data can be very misleading
So…Thank Gosh…
You probably avoided permanent gyno this time, but your approach was risky.
That’s just my honest take based on my own experience, helping a few guys along the way, and years of watching what works … and what doesn’t. Take it or leave it, but hopefully it helps.
Solid info pandateston. Would you agree with me if I said AI use long term is bad for one's health , and that a better option would be to instead add Masteron or Primobolan?
100%, brother. Long-term AI use is trash for health … lipids, joints, mood, cognition, insulin sensitivity… it slowly chips away at everything. Estrogen isn’t the enemy, imbalance is.
Bloodwork and biomarkers usually show Adex being harsher long term than Aromasin, but Kurt Havens made a really good point with Big Paul ( https://youtu.be/9Epz3Qr1eH4?si=ZyVOPGfT32fVKvFv ): the drug itself isn’t necessarily the villain … it’s how badly people misuse it. Most guys overshoot, crash E2, and stay there way too long. That’s where the real damage happens.
I was like:
Well, that perspective actually makes you think. Instead of demonizing AIs, it’s more about being intelligent and strategic with them.
That said, in real-world lifestyle terms IMHO, using Mast or Primo(some people would add Equipoise here, just watch out for BP and RBC) to manage estrogen indirectly is way smarter. You get DHT support, better physique, better libido, better mood, and more stable hormones … without nuking estrogen. Much healthier and way more sustainable long-term.
I only like AIs for short-term, reactive use when E2 is clearly out of control. Otherwise, compound selection + proper dosing > AI dependence. Every single time.
People who take ai’s right off the bat are bugging out. Mast, EQ, Primo should be first line of defense for estrogen issues. For purely nipple issues, Ralox/Nolva should be used. Those two are selective to breast tissue alone. Crashing estrogen is such a bad feeling and it will usually last at least a week or two. It actually feels like hell
This was his first cycle and he fucked it up so bad and stayed on it for 5 months. Imagine what would have happened if he had Primo, Mast, or EQ in the mix? Already I am surprised he doesn't have double D jugs.
I wanted to stay on test for very Long and then cruise or pct After. As I said on 300test I Never had Problems till I upped to 400 and startet using the al which I used wrong I builded good muscles why saying smth Like this now I have noticed the small pain and tried finding solutions here and at a doctor..
The solution is get on PCT then after that let your body rest without anything for a few months.
I will thank you the 6 weeks one you recommended
Yes
100% couldn’t agree more, brother man !
Thanks for taking the time to explain all that brother . I'm familiar with Kurt havens he does the anabolic round table with Vigorous steve and Dr Dean , smart dude.
I have a bit of primo, bit of mast and a cpl bottles of eq on hand , planned to use EQ on my next blast since I've never tried it but sadly kill my hematocrit climbs like crazy, it was up to 57% last cycle and I wasn't even blasting heavy , I heard EQ is the most notorious for raising RBC/hematocrit. I tolerate deca pretty well so I may just go that route again, tren fck no onn150-200mg I turn into a psycho LOL but fck does it ever peel you.
You think a cruise of 150 test E and 50mg mast would help a lot more to control E2? I'm verh E2 sensitive and even ran into a light gyno problem, but I don't wanna fk with AI's anymore tbh.
I also heard Vinny luzioliano or however his names pronounced, mention the E2 number isnt the issue but its more the ratio of total test to E2 aslong as sides arent present, apparently a ratio of 15 or 20 total test to 1 estradiol is what you want to aim.for, you heard of this ?
Sorry for all the questions, you just seem really knowledgeable so wanted to pick yoir brain a little lol
Yeah, I’d say yes, but dose matters and tolerance is everything.
120–150mg test is basically boosted TRT. Question is: do you still get E2 symptoms or bad labs at that dose running test only? If not, you might not even need to add anything.
If you are sensitive, then yeah … 150 test + 50 mast is a very solid cruise. Mast helps blunt aromatization, improves SHBG control, libido, mood, and usually stabilizes E2 without needing AIs. Much smoother long-term.
So … if your goal is more muscle + E2 control, I’d still pick Primo > Mast all day. (Sorry Dr. Todd Lee, love the guy, but Primo is just way more anabolic, lol…) Mast = cosmetic + feel-good. Primo = tissue-building + E2 management. Depends on the goal.
And yeah, Vinny is right IMO … ratio > absolute number. That 20:1 total test : E2 ratio is a great reference, but symptoms + bloods together always beat chasing a lab number. Some guys feel perfect at E2 = 50, others feel like trash at 30.
If you’re gyno-prone, dose control + compound selection > AIs long term. Less hormone swings, less rebound, better health.
That’s exactly how I’d run it IMHO.
Yeah bro even on just on TRT my nips are sensitive. So I recently suffered a dislocation on the rear of my shoulder, my bloodwork didn't look good so I said fuck it and came off of everything to give my body a reset . Low amd behold bloodwork is back to looking great again , especially my HCT which was at 57% but back down to 47 after 3 months clean of androgens.
But anyyyyywho back on topic , just 3 weeks back into being on test my nipples are a little sensitive/sore again , but its not a new symptom , I started developing signs of gymo about a decade ago. I've used AI's and what not to try and keep it ffom getting out of hand , and I bet would expect the gyno to be that old. For the last week I've also felt way more emotional than usual, and the hard ons I was getting all day every day have slowed down so it makes me suspect its all E2 related since all the symptoms mentioned had begun around the same time
Oh and I agree with you, Todd Lee knows a lot of shit but he also spews a lot of diarrhea of the mouth aswell --
I'm actually a pretty low responded to dosages / gear in general which is why I've always kept my cruise between 150-200mg , currently on 200mg sust(i prefer sust tbh lol so tomorrow ill drop it by 50mg and replace it with 50 mast
I'm glad someone knowledgeable confirmed that this is a solid cruise plan, thanks brother.
Good write up. Valuable. Thumbs up from me. Yes that Nolvadex blocks it directly at the breast tissue.
I obviously do not know everything but I myself have never heard of Low E2 causing lumps or gyno in males. Going by what he was saying he was not taking the Ai correctly and he had a huge test to estrogen ratio difference. His Ai might even be fake or weak we have no idea where he got it from.
I do not know if this guy is overweight or not but I suspect he is, no stats listed therefore he aromatized test to estrogen quickly raising it so high that he got sides. He may have got it lower temporarily by throwing Ai in there but he bounced back quickly with high E2 because his body is aromatizing quickly with all the test he had. The more fat you have the more aromatase enzymes you have that convert Test to E2.
When he stopped everything the gyno went down but so did his Testosterone and thus lower estrogen. He is getting ready for a complete disaster if he does not start a PCT soon.
Hopefully this is a lesson learned for him and in all regards he should do blood work and see what his levels are doing. It's very wise to get bloods before, during, and after a cycle. If he needs help next time hopefully he reaches out to one of us.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK279105/
And you never will. The remedy for lumps has always been drop estro/prolactin and block with nolva. Keeping in mind that prolactin tracks with e2. @Aggieguy
Unless some new medical research emerged...which should then be posted.
Old forums with good replies
https://www.eroids.com/forums/general/general-talk/knee-jerk-reactions-t...
I will PCT in 5 days then ive got 14 days from my last, I shouldnt start earlier Right?
I do not know what test ester you are using but if its Test C or Test E then Yes two weeks after last pin start PCT. You do not want to start early. This is all going to help your body start producing its own testosterone back on its own.
Yes test e, so i continue taking nothing then start the pct 2 weeks 50clomid 40nolva After that reduce to 20 nolva and 25 clomid for 2 weeks
I would do 100 clomid for the first two weeks then drop to 50 the last two weeks 40 nova two weeks then 20 nolva.
Is this better ? Then its a 6 Week pct righ.
I was on for 21 weeks with 300-400 test
Damn man, you went 5 months on this cycle? If so then yes you need a 6 week PCT. So first two weeks 100 clomid 40 nova. The last four weeks 50 clomid 20 nova. If you do not have enough, 5 weeks should be ok as well.
Did you see any change in your physique? You have my mind blown away that you did this for a first cycle. You are beyond lucky.
Why am I Lucky? I have to stop now
Because by the sounds of it, you should have breast right now.
Once you’re done your PCT.
Do some research and ask questions. You seem a little like an 18year old kid who found a stash of Test and pins. Just poking away and hoping for the best is not how to run a cycle.
I did I went from 70 lean To 88kg and got really Strong and good im still Not that fat if you Call it this way, I draw a lot water as u can see on my e2 but also I Look much bigger now and also ive got a moonface im still pretty lean tho but its watery
So is this real or all just a joke? All that water will be gone on PCT and you won't look bigger anymore. You are lucky you didn't get permanent breasts like Billy said or really mess yourself up with high blood pressure, high hematocrit and then a stroke.
If you are so called skinny, then you are skinny fat its the only way you aromatase that must estrogen. You being 5'8" and weighing 200lbs and not a gym goer, you are fat. If you do not have muscle definition and cannot see veins all over on your arms, then you are fat. That is the issue with this cycle, you need to hit the gym hard and clean your diet before you hop on gear.
All fair points, Big bro … and I agree with most of what you said.
Just to clarify my angle: I’m not saying low E2 directly causes gyno the same way high E2 does. What I’m saying is that hormonal instability + rapid estrogen swings can trigger nipple sensitivity, inflammation, and temporary tissue reactions that mimic early gyno symptoms. That part is well documented clinically, especially with aggressive AI use.
Big rapid drops in estradiol can mess with:
• prolactin balance
• androgen/estrogen receptor signaling
• local tissue inflammation
That combo alone can create pain + transient lump-like swelling, especially in already sensitive tissue.
And I fully agree … fat mass, aromatase density, dosing, source quality, and AI legitimacy all matter a ton here. Without bloodwork, we’re all just reverse engineering symptoms.
Also 100% agree:
ALWAYS Bloodwork before, during, and after is king.
That alone avoids 90% of these situations.
So yeah, I think we’re actually on the same page … just coming at it from slightly different angles. End goal is the same: prevent permanent gyno and long-term hormonal damage.
Good discussion though … this is how guys actually learn.
I agree brother, I am always in a learning mood and stuff like this makes me research more. I see your point that is might not be gyno but rather a response causing inflammation which is like gyno symptoms. I just wish he would have done bloodwork and we would know exactly what is going on.
No....low e2 does not cause lumps or folks wouldn't be crashing e2 to remove lumps.
Nolva blocks e2....again to block high e2.
Aro....suicide inhibitors...to block e2
Masteron....blocks e2.
Rolox...blocks e2
Letro...massive e2 killer for lumps
Hence its the E2....and high e2 raises prolactin. Hand in hand combat. And you don't need a Nor to get raised prolactin.
Please do some medical research
https://www.eroids.com/forums/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/simple-pct-...
Jock, I respect the experience you bring to the table, but you’re oversimplifying a complex endocrine mechanism … and that’s where guys get into trouble.
Let’s separate cause vs mechanism vs treatment, because that’s where the confusion always happens.
Yes … high E2 is the ROOT trigger for true gyno formation. No argument there.
But symptoms ≠ permanent gland formation. And hormonal instability alone absolutely can cause nipple pain and temporary nodularity.
Here’s the part people miss:
Rapid estrogen crash = endocrine shock.
That sudden hormonal imbalance can cause:
• nipple pain
• tissue irritation
• inflammatory response
• temporary nodules
• prolactin fluctuation
• transient breast swelling
This is well documented clinically, not bro science.
Why?
Because breast tissue is extremely sensitive to hormonal flux, not just estrogen level.
It responds to RATIO + RATE OF CHANGE, not only absolute value.
That’s why:
• puberty
• puberty blockers
• menopause
• postpartum
• anti-estrogen therapy
• chemotherapy
• AI therapy
ALL can cause temporary breast lumps and pain.
This is standard endocrinology.
Now let’s break your points down one by one:
You mentioned “Low E2 does not cause lumps or people wouldn’t crash E2 to remove lumps”
This is a false equivalence.
People crash E2 to STARVE estrogen-driven gland growth.
That does NOT mean crashing estrogen cannot cause nipple pain or transient nodules.
Different mechanisms:
• Gyno gland = estrogen receptor activation over time
• Pain / irritation = inflammatory + neural + hormonal imbalance response
They are not the same biological process, I know you are aware of this. You are very knowledgeable, brother.
Plenty of men on aggressive AI therapy develop:
• nipple pain
• breast tenderness
• palpable nodules
• chest wall soreness
that fully resolve once hormones rebalance.
That does NOT mean they had real gyno.
You also mentioned: “Everything blocks E2 so it’s always high E2”
This is where nuance matters.
Yes:
• Nolva blocks estrogen at breast receptor
• AI lowers circulating estrogen
• Masteron reduces estrogenic effect
• Ralox blocks estrogen receptors
But:
Different tools treat different parts of the pathway.
Nolva = tissue protection
AI = systemic estrogen control
That’s exactly why:
Nolva + low-dose AI is superior to AI nuking alone.
Because:
You block breast tissue while stabilizing systemic hormones ( Best approach IMO )
Instead of:
crashing the entire endocrine system and hoping for the best.
….Prolactin logic oversimplified
Yes … high E2 can raise prolactin.
But:
Estrogen crash can also dysregulate dopamine …—>… prolactin balance.
Endocrine systems operate on feedback loops, not isolated levers.
This is why:
• low estrogen can raise prolactin in some individuals
• dopamine tone drops
• pituitary feedback changes
• prolactin spikes
*I coach, and I look at bloodwork every other week … and honestly, it’s pretty rare for me to see high prolactin caused only by an estradiol imbalance. It can happen, but most of the time there’s more going on than just elevated E2.
From what I’ve seen, prolactin issues are usually more related to 19-nor compounds, dopamine suppression, stress, poor sleep, or overall neuroendocrine imbalance rather than estrogen alone. That’s why I always prefer to look at the full panel and the full context before jumping to conclusions or throwing meds at it.
That’s not theory … it’s documented physiology.
Why his symptoms disappeared after stopping everything
That part is key.
If true gland tissue had formed:
Stopping everything would NOT make it disappear.
Early-stage true gyno:
• rarely regresses fully
• almost always leaves residual tissue
• usually requires prolonged SERM therapy or surgery
His:
• pain disappeared
• lump disappeared
• no residual mass
That strongly points to:
hormonal irritation + inflammatory nodularity, not organized glandular tissue.
Which fits perfectly with:
AI crash + hormonal instability
Why his AI dosing was objectively reckless
1mg …—>… 0.5 …—>… 0.5 in days
Without bloodwork
On unknown aromatization rate
That can:
• crash E2 below physiological range
• destabilize prolactin
• irritate breast tissue
• create exactly the symptoms he described
This is common in real-world practice.
Clinical reality (with all due respect, not forums mythology)
In medical literature:
Sudden estrogen suppression is associated with:
• mastalgia
• breast tenderness
• nodularity
• inflammatory breast pain
Seen in:
• aromatase inhibitor therapy in women
• anti-estrogen cancer treatment
• estrogen withdrawal syndromes
This is basic endocrinology, not speculation.
On this forum, I always see myself as a student first. I’m constantly trying to learn, stay open-minded, and help whenever I can.
After laying out my reasoning, I still believe my response to our iron brother was fair and well thought out, so I stand by what I wrote.
High estrogen = cause of gyno formation
Hormonal instability = cause of nipple pain + temporary lumps
Both can exist.
Both can overlap.
But they are not identical processes.
So the real takeaway for guys reading:
• Nipple pain ≠ instant gyno
• AI nuking ≠ smart prevention
• Nolva early = smarter defense
• Bloodwork > guessing
• Stability > extremes
No disrespect intended … but physiology isn’t binary.
Hormones operate in feedback systems, not on/off switches.
And most gyno disasters happen not from high estrogen, but from panic-driven overcorrection.
That’s the real enemy.
That said, I’m far from claiming to own the truth. In every field, there are different perspectives, and that’s exactly what helps all of us grow.
Respectfully, brother man… don’t shoot me.
We've already established all of that except low e2 doesn't cause gyno. Imbalances, medications and body fat can. That's not str8 low e2.
My bet is IF he had gyro symptoms that his adex was bunk or wasn't correctly used. I'm betting bunk. Folks confuse adex with around which is a dangerous game because adex will release bound e2 and rebound occurs. Around is suicidal and gives no rebound. Simple things like aro raises igf1 as well but is simply too strong for many.
End if the day our client will get an ai and nolva. I'd suggest aro. Around can't crash e2 where adex can so there's no over doing it...within reason. 2 weeks retest bloods.
Double talk....I've been on here since site opened sir. Open options are excellent. But law talk doesn't translate to real world.
We'rent you some "other guy" for a while?
Like mankind before he was dude love, puff daddy/p Diddy, black Michael Jackson/white Michael Jackson etc etc etc
Bro, I’m actually talking exactly about what I see in the real world.
My point isn’t to disagree with you, it’s just to share practical experience.
I understand your perspective and I respect it … we just see it from different angles.
I’m not downplaying your knowledge at all. I’m simply defending what I’ve seen work consistently in real life.
Open discussion is what makes forums valuable. Always good to exchange viewpoints, my man.
No.1 Lesson to take home here is - don't fuck with Panda LMAO
I am starting to think I should enjoy my time at the top while I can - Panda's coming for me LMAO
Lmao stop it… I’m just running behind trying not to get lapped. You’re the inspo.
If it makes you feel any better you and Panda are my favorites.
TBH mate PCT, estrogen control, SHBG is an area I need to know more about so ironically have been doing a few hours reading up on it all today as I often don't get involved in these sorts of posts. I am thinking of getting some proviron this week as I have a sneaky feeling my SHBG may be high - when I take Magnesium, Zinc and Vit D I definitely feel an increase in libido and general testosterone feeling. I've read Provi decreases SHBG by around 58% plus it ties up less other gear like DBol etc - Do you think its genuinely worth adding in to a general cycle, does healing seem to improve? I am only going to add 25mg per day (1 tab)
When it comes to proviron I am new, I just bought some for the first time. I can tell you for me it does put me in a better mood and the libido is real. Everything i have read says 25mg is plenty for just the libido effect, but you can take 50 mg if needed. So far I am a fan of it.
Maybe its because I offer 'extra's' that Panda won't give LMFAO
I was also thinking it may be useful to know what the guys SHBG is above?
Yes this dude should have done blood work that is the issue with all of us trying to solve his problems. We have no proof of his hormone levels and what they were doing because he did no blood work. I can tell you that he is headed for disaster if he does not get it under control and start a PCT immediately to reset.
@Pandateston What are your thoughts mate when it comes to Proviron for Free Test increase? Worth it or not really? Noticeable difference in results & healing or just better erections lol
Good question, brother man , IMO…Proviron doesn’t really raise free test in any meaningful anabolic way.
Science-wise, yeah, it binds to SHBG, so on paper you might see a slight bump in free test. But in practice, it’s pretty modest. You’re not gonna see noticeable muscle or strength gains just from that.
Where Proviron really shines, IMO:
Libido & erections (big yes lol), mood / sense of well-being, hardness, dryness, cosmetic look, nice androgen “polish” when stacked with other compounds
Healing-wise, not really a player.
But I’ve also been seeing some AAS protocols from pro coaches. For example, Patrick Tour likes to run Proviron at very high doses … around 100–150 mg daily … to maintain high muscle density during specific pre-stage phases…
I’ve always seen it more as a finisher or a third compound … just a small sprinkle to improve mood and libido … rather than a second primary drug. And honestly, guys on TRT seem to notice its effects the most. As a quality-of-life add-on, it can be great.
For heavy blasters and cruisers running stronger compounds, it usually doesn’t move the needle much …that’s been my experience and what I’ve seen around me.
So yeah, worth it for feel-good + cosmetic touch, not for gains or healing IMHO.
@irongame427 is extremely knowledgeable about Proviron … it’s one of his favorite compounds. Don’t ask me why lol… maybe he just appreciates high-performance living …But jokes aside, he always drops solid knowledge. Let’s hear what he’s got.
Agree with panda. It’s cosmetic, libido and how it makes you feel. It’s a good addition to any cycle imo. Unless you are going to run mast then it’s a bit overkill/redundant. It’s super mild so you don’t really need to take breaks from it so that’s one of the reasons I like it. It used to be really cheap so it didn’t cost much to add 50mg Ed to a cycle. Now it’s kind of really expensive….
Regarding the increase in free test. My last couple sets of labs for TRT without proviron my free test was between 13-16pg/ml. Next after about 3 months on 50mg of proviron it went up to 23pg/ml. It’s a pretty significant increase. I can’t say it’s all because of proviron, but that’s the only thing I changed. I never did a similar comparison while Blasting years ago so idk I’d see a similar increase on blast when my free test is already sky high. Despite that increase idk that I felt any difference in the gym. But my level is still within normal range.
That's all really helpful to know guys! Interesting to see you got those actual results in free Test increase - I guess its more about how you feel while running it than turning you into a raging beast in the gym then lol I still will try a packet I think on my next order out of curiosity which hopefully won't kill the cat LMAO
Interesting Mate - Interesting ....
Ranger3252I will never understand people using something as strong as Adex without having bloodwork done. Why would you take any hormones before seeing what your baseline bloods look like. Then, a few weeks later get bloods pulled again. If anything is off adjust accordingly. Then get bloods pulled again and if your E2 is still high you’re probably running a bunk AI. Bloodwork people it’s not that hard.
What exactly were you running along with dosage and frequency?
No. Your adex is fake and/or prolactin is high along with estro
That lump is called Gyno. Your E2 was so high that it caused it and you have sides of it like sore nipples and a lump. If your body fat percentage is high, then you are more prone to it. Raloxifene would get rid of that lump you should have this on hand just like an Ai. It specifically goes after E2 in breast tissue.
Next time you are on Testosterone especially that high, you should be taking some Anastorzole about .5mg a week and if you still get some symptoms increase it to .5mg twice a week.
Lastly if you are fat or high body fat % get on retrutide and get it off of you and hit the gym and clean up the diet. You will be a lot happier on gear with a lean physique.