+ 3 Heavy Handed OR Fair COP?? Your Opinion ....
I've just been reading all about this woman called Renee Good being Shot and killed by an ICE agent in Minneapolis as she refused to get out of her truck when asked to by ICE officers, then she tried to drive off.
The Videos of it seem quite dubious in terms of whether shooting her through the windscreen was really necessary when I'm sure she could of easily been stopped further down the road considering the amount of agents that were there and vehicles present.
On the one hand I was always raised to respect the Police and you do as instructed by them (especially when they have guns pointed at you!) but on the other hand it seems a bit unnecessary that a woman and mother has lost her life over this.
What's your take on this being weapons owners and routinely seeing Cops it seems shooting first and asking questions later?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15450043/renee-nicole-good-ice-...
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Shoot You Dead is in their job description. ‘explicitly authorize—and in some cases require—deadly force when there is an imminent threat of death or serious bodily injury‘. How do adult american citizens not know the seriousness of fukking with active apprehension of criminals or the pursuit thereof. If you advance on that scene you become the Imminent Threat and are subject to elimination.
I don’t give a shit that he had a 2nd amendment right to carry. You bring a gun to a “peaceful protest”, act like an asshole and FAFO. I have plenty of cop friends and almost all leave their guns home when not on duty because it’s just not worth it.
Where were these cops when all the cities were burning down? "Get some, Get some" from a chopper
Follow the money. Follow the Signal Chat founders and organizers.
Minnesota leaders are organizing riots as a diversion to cover up their massive fraud in the state and using signal chat as their command and control. Ice agents are doing the job of apprehending illegal aliens. ICE is obligated to eliminate threats, perceiver or real, It's in their job description.
Agitators, fueled by organized tracking of ICE agents' positions are broadcast via Signal Chat, naive protesters surround armed and edgy ICE agents, creating a dangerous situation especially when agitators are perceived to interfere with arrests.
Organizers incite these domestic terrorists, knowing their actions will lead to fatalities. Every time a protester is Killed all the politician run to the mic to spew more divisive smut to get more NAIVE citizens out into the streets to interfere like soldiers until more agitator's get shot. Even Obama chimed in on the dude that just got killed.
This is organized and criminal which makes it a RICO Slam Dunk.
Are the agents guilty? Are the agitators guilty? Are the organizers guilty? That's for you and the courts to decide.
Pleas note the thousands of other cities where ICE are arresting Illegal Aliens and No-One is dying. Difference is those cities don't have Organized Criminal orders coming from city wide Signal Chat groups.
You hit the nail on the head. This isn’t about ice. This is about shifting the blame and the spotlight away from all the fraud that Nick Shirley uncovered.
You mean the fraud that was already exposed before trump got into office? The 100 million that magically snowballed into dementia Don's 18-19 Billion? lol. Nobody is moving billions of dollars without drawing attention lol.
Holy shit! Good to see you ED. This arctic weather has to make hooker hunting difficult. The van have chains at least?
The way I look at it is this. These people lied and said I pulled a gun in the because I had a MAGA sticker on my car. I would have went away for 7 years and missed my son growing up. If I didn’t have my dash cam I’d be in jail right now. So when I see one get shot that’s one less person to worry about making up some lie about me.
Around 2016 my son’s mother got punched and knocked down walking home from work by one of these lefties because she looked like a Trump supporter. She lost our first kid over it. So when I see these lefties get shot to death I feel better about it. One less lefty I had to worry about ruining my life. These people has me and will kill my family or kids if they ca ge away with it. The will throw me in jail. So I don’t give a shit.
Wow. That is the most bootlicking, unAmerican bullshit I have ever seen.
Was it necessary? Probably not, justified, probably.
The fact is, the power is both physically and legally on the side of law enforcement. If you're actively trying to fight them, you're already putting yourself in a stupid situation that you are not going to win. Even if they are in the wrong, your best bet is to just bend over and take it. I didn't really watch this last video, the Renee Good one was the result of stupidity, arrogance and antagonization. Should she have died, I don't think so but did she do everything in her power to escalate the situation? Absolutely.
Just bend over to the feds bro. Don not question , do not exert your rights. Lick the boots and you can pass... Not me
You’re right. The best thing you can always do is take it unfortunately. Then follow it up later in the courts with a civil rights attorney.
He wasn't trying to fight them though, he was just speaking to one of them and then they went for him and tackled him to the floor. When we have protestors over here being difficult the last thing we do is shoot them, they get tackled/sprayed/tasered then put in cuffs and brought before the courts. There is simply no way you can justify shooting someone several times in the back when they are already pretty much detained on the floor flanked by 4 or 5 guys in vests.
as stated, didn't see that video, just going off the renee video
Watch the video in my link and you will be shocked.
It was not justifiable in any timeline.
I see ICE are now shooting ICU Nurses who legally carry a firearm but don't actually have it in their hand - after they have already been pepper sprayed and brought to their knee's!! They then shoot them in the back.
Never seen anything so ridiculous - are these guys beyond the realm of restraining people without actually shooting them dead first??!!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15495779/Minneapolis-nurse-Alex...
About time someone went to jail for all of this senseless killing.
People all over this fucking country keep arguing about why these situations start. I’m talking about where the line is. You can support law enforcement and immigration enforcement and still demand restraint. Once someone is surrounded, on their knees, or otherwise not presenting an active threat, lethal force should be off the table. When that cutoff disappears, accountability disappears. That’s when this country is fucked.
For the record, I’m a gun owner. I’m not MAGA, and I’m not liberal either. This isn’t about sides. It’s about standards.
Well said
I consider myself a patriot. I’m pro gun and own multiple. You’re here illegally, you are breaking the law.
That being said, living here is scary right now. I’ve seen multiple videos and all of them point to the ICE agents basically executing this guy in the street. Renee Good, she’s questionable as she did drive a suv right at agents, but this guy was beat unconscious and then shot multiple times.
Well said
This was the point I was trying to make mate - I don't have an issue with the ICE agents getting rid of the illegals as we have a HUGE problem with them arriving in our country too in the boats (boatmen) and molesting our women and children, & causing all kinds of crime. But you cannot argue with the fact there was NO NEED to shoot this guy in this situation. He was SURROUNDED by agents all wearing bulletproof vests, he was on his knees and had hold of NO GUN or weapon - if they were not able to put his hands behind his back and zip tie or cuff him then they are pretty shit at their job. There is just no way in the position that he was in that he needed to be shot in the back, these guys need better training on how to deal with people using their hands than just blindly fuckin shooting at anything that moves. Over here with our Armed Police there needs to be a very bad and uncontrollable situation happening before they are allowed to even fire a bullet.
Yeah, our ICE has changed a lot! They’re not barely trained, masked, unmarked cars, and don’t state who they are anymore.
For all you know, you’re being kidnapped.
He would still be alive if he stayed away from lawful immigration enforcement operations and stopped obstructing and harassing agents tasked with enforcing our laws. Why these people insist on putting themselves in harms way to prevent ice from removing criminal illegal aliens from our country is beyond me.
If they want to protest they can protest. That’s their first amendment right. Although it’s ridiculously stupid to protest the removal of illegals who have been a significant contributing factor to the overall decline of our country in the last 30 years, but I digress. Go protest outside an ice office or somewhere appropriate for a protest. following ice around getting in their way is not protesting. It’s obstruction of justice.
Should the guy have been shot? Idk. It’s hard to tell if videos were seeing are modified, but it didn’t look like he had his hand on the gun or anything, it was just concealed on him. But you’ve got a very chaotic situation with 10 ice officers right there all on edge, knowing they’re constantly a target and one of them starts yelling gun. They’re trained to shoot in that scenario. Again, this could have been avoided if he wasn’t obstructing their operation and getting in their faces. He could have just went downtown and organized a legit protest.
MAGA is a political party with no principals. They change with whatever the orange dildo feels like that day. America is not salvageable.
When are you moving
When your wife’s boyfriend moves out.
You need my wife's boyfriend to move out so you can leave the USA? Was that supposed to insult or confuse me?
You didn’t say leave the USA. You just asked when I was moving. So I’m not surprised you don’t know if you should be insulted or confused. You didn’t finish the sentence or punctuate it.
I know you try but christ you are fucking bad at this.
So when are you leaving?
Are you retarded?
Why? Your wife into retards?
This stupid response to half a day to come up with?
You said that the United States is unsalvageable , and then I asked you when are you moving. And you respond with I didn't mention the United states. I didn't have to mention it because you did you moron and what else could you possibly think I meant when I asked you when are you moving.
LMAO 'The Orange Dildo'
I thought it was green????
Not exactly. There is a divide in Maga where people are actually America first, and then there's the half that are what you've described.
MAGA or Republicans are divided. The ones who support Israel and the ones who don't.
Yeah. I just didn't know if I wanted to have that conversation yet lol.
It's okay bro zionist don't lift weights
Dkoon211Doesn't matter, when you play stupid games with the law you win stupid prizes.
Protesters blocking traffic should be run over, people blocking roads with their cars should be shot at.
Bad ai picture for that opinion as chick's with nice racks get a pass
Evry picture they post office her looks like a different person. In one picture she looks like Woody Harrelson and in another she looks attractive.
I am a single dude that shit is so real it makes me mad. I also hate the 20 year old picture they try to say they still look like. I don't do that and I could I am as lean as I ever was and I am 11 pounds from my heaviest lean body weight the only difference between jacked 21 year old me and old me is my beard and chest hair are going grey. I said the ai picture had a nice rack I will cosign the Woody Harrelson statement but not the attractive one.
P.S. your auto correct is dry snitching on you you may wanna edit.
Btw I am very much right wing but I'm seeing so many right wing people just blindly follow others on the right and turn a blind eye to things like trump kidnapping another world leader like it's ok lol
My right wing friends in UK thinking it's okay for Israel to bomb the shit out of Palestine killing innocent woman and children just because it fits into their politics. -it's insane everybodies lost their minds. SMH
Good take. It’s not about where you fall on the political spectrum. It’s about sitting back and asking yourself “is this really ok”?
There’s a lot of that shit in the states right now. Left vs right. It’s so fucking stupid. In the end we’re ALL Americans.
-it's insane everybodies lost their minds.
It's all apart of the plan brother they have been perfecting this craft for decades... imo we killed jfk, mlk and Charlie not that you can compare Charlie to mlk but yeah that's just to name a few... I also think Epstein is still alive...
He probably is still alive and they are dirty as fuck the will kill anyone if it suits their needs. And most of the time anyone in power is held accountable in any way it is more of a limited hang out. The Epstine files for sure have Trump Clinton and many others caught red handed with either live boys dead girls or some of each.
Yep absolutely people talk to me as if Russia and Iran are evil and I try to explain everyone in power and in government are the same doesn't matter what country there from there all bad. We are ran by pedophiles who commit false flags and cause wars killing millions of innocent people.
Exactly the reason I dropped out of the royal marines I refuse to be part of it. I was basically the governments henchman
Yall are both right it's a sad world we live in wish we just let ppl live and leave the kids alone lol idc if ya wanna suck a pp just don't do it in public haha. The government also pushes the gay agenda and gays fall for it making themselves a public display and turns people against them. It's all mind control shit not on the level conspiracy theorist think but close to it.
Doesn't being a Cop make you a bit biased in here mate??!!!!!