Cycle for Athletes with Weight Classes Wrestling/Jiu-Jitsu
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I'm kicking some ideas around in my head. My goals are: 1) I don't want to gain crazy size; 2) I don't want my natural test to crash. Although I don't want to gain too much size, I'm not opposed to going up a couple of weight classes. I'm thinking about running a "softer" cycle. I don't want to run test because it will be the only thing I could be tested for. The test is the old Epitest to Test ratio so running exogenous test is out of the question. I'm thinking about running 200 to 400mg primo/wk with 250iu HCG every other day. I could also substitute the primo with 50mg winstrol/day or 400mg masteron per week. I'm also going to use MK-677 with anything I take. Some people have suggested that I use SARMS(Osterine & Rad-140), but I've heard (broscience) that using HCG with SARMS won't avoid test suppression.
Aside from test, I am avoiding orals due to various side effects such as water retention and cramping. Even Anavar produces painful pumps during competition. I suppose I could do a primo or winstrol oral, but I'm not needle phobic.
It might be a tall order, but a no test cycle with HCG to avoid test suppression. Any thoughts?
Thank you for your assistance.
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Thanks for the suggestions. To give a little bit of background, I got sick. Mono. I was out for the entire season due to a swollen spleen. I just got the OK to start training again and I am in dogshit shape. I'm going to go with just food and diet for a few months until some major tournaments are on the horizon. From there, I am going with 8 weeks of Osterine and MK677. 2 weeks into the Osterine, I am going to add enclomiphene for the remaining 6 weeks. Then let a couple of weeks pass before I start my PCT with 250iu HCG eod. I've always had a third lung, but I'm going to see where my cardio is about a month out from competition and possibly add Carderine if needed. My mile time was 5 m 40s prior to getting sick. Ran this am and my mile time was a little over 12 min and I was winded.
I think that is the closest thing that I am going to get to what I want to acomplish within my parameters. I know there are some downsides to it, but I've got a limited time left to compete. Hard work alone isn't going to get me back to where I was in this short a period of time.
Again, thanks for the tips. Any other comments or suggestions are appriciated.
I think that not only will running AAS without test not do what you think it’s going to do for you but also you will absolutely get popped for doping if you get tested whether you’re taking test or not. I can only speak to how they do it in cycling federations but all AAS have metabolites that they regularly test for. If you think there is a real chance of you getting tested you’re way better off just staying natty. If the testing is more of an empty threat that the federation can point to to prove that they don’t endorse doping then take whatever you want. This doesn’t even take into account how dumb taking roids without any test is in general.
You probably won't avoid all suppression with using hcg. If you want something to increase your cardio capabilities Cardarine will do that for you. I've never used it long term. Only on cardio days about an hour before my session. I felt like i could go twice as long as i normally could with ease.
Unless there's a reason why you can't do test stop trying to reinvent the wheel. There are plenty of things you can use here. But almost all of them include test as a base. Even just test by itself can help you increase your strength significantly. Also why bother with mk with how cheap actual gh is these days? You could do 3 iu/day for 2 months for the same or even cheaper than you could run mk for the same time period.
Halotestin, but, liver. If you’re really not trying to gain weight but also wouldn’t mind going up several weight classes, I’d recommend orals here and just be careful if you’re cutting a lot. But four weeks of Superdrol or just game day halotest for the aggression. Otherwise you’re gonna cramp and risk injury with orals, I hate the idea of hCG for test base but do what you gotta do…I’d rather do proviron as a test base since it’s at least approved for this trt use in a couple places. But., again, it’s more hear on your organs. If you have the money and don’t mind looking dumb I’d take hgH and cut like a mother-f’er, sprinkle in as much Superdrol for a short oeriod before the season/competitions begin to let it clear a few days or just adjust down from the pumps and be safe to compete trying to maintain your strength and confidence with a few days on Halo around tournaments for the instant strength and endurance. Even pop an anadrol for a good power boost for competitions, might be fun. If you’re smart you’ll just learn how to beat the testing or else do a real cycle off season and keep your ass moving on growth hormone and modest, long term anavar use for the season then deal with the problems after. Most people do fine on it and just warmnyourself up to it. I think this will give you a mental psychological effect more than anything. You can only get so strong even when you do it always someone would be just as strong and make you challenge yourself in a way you might start to suspect you getting yoked around even if you’re wrong Something might kill your confidence. You should just stay natural imo. I hear halo is good if you want to lose friends and influence people to fear you!
I’m bjj brown belt but haven’t competing in a while, I never been tested while competing my whole life, probably wrestling confederation requires that tho…so you gotta find a compound that will increase your strength and cardio. There’s many combinations you can be doing…about
Primo or WINSTROL by itself will crush e2. They’re horrible to be taking alone for performance.
Test is base most of the time, for some like me, test is foundation always.
Why wouldn’t you squeeze some turinabol on that future cycle… is less hepatotoxic than Winny, less deleterious long term…Will gain some strength, increasing cardio performance without water retention , it is 17a-alkylated but nothing horrendous. I personally would not do anything without at least a trt test in the protocol.
Sounds like add more cardio and tighten that diet to a razors edge. Dont cycle....