Cycle for my wife
My wife (5’3”, 207 lbs, 38.6% BF) wants to run a cycle to gain strength and muscle.
She is currently running Tirzepatide (Mounjaro) that a doctor prescribed to help her lose weight. She has lost a fair amount of weight so far.
She doesn’t want to start her cycle until her BF% is a bit lower.
I’m doing research on what compounds women are running, what doses they are running them at, how long they are running their cycles, and what (if anything) they are doing for pct as I am to understand that most females do not pct at all from what little info I can find.
I want to work out a good cycle for where she’s at and work out a more advanced cycle for future use. She has done 2 cycles of Anavar so far in her life.
Her first cycle she went low and slow, starting at 6.25 mg/ day and slowly increasing to 25 mg/day as she monitored what her body could tolerate.
Her second cycle she ran 25 mg/day for a little less than 8 weeks and now she wants to try either upping the dose or adding another compound.
Since I can’t seem to find much info on what compounds the female body tolerates best (on average) or what doses/durations seem to work best, I figured I’d ask the community.
So, if you read all that I thank you. If you are a woman and are comfortable sharing what your cycles consist of, doses and time on cycle, please share. If you have a girlfriend or wife who has a cycle she likes, please share.
I’m interested to see what mild beginner cycles and what heavier experienced user type cycles the female community is running.
Thanks again!
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anvilDid she run bloodwork on the var the previous times? That's the answers you are looking for, we cannot predict her health. We can say yeah 10mg or var for 4 weeks but I cannot know what her lipids look like to say yes continue or not it looks bad. When training females, I always factored in blood work and how important it was the them to cycle (period) normally, which even on low dose var it messes with it. How mad does she wanna build muscle ? Is she willing to virilize?? Because running more then 15mgs per week of test can do it. I would suggest you look into GH rather then increase past male doses of var. I have had females in comp run 25mgs in prep but never that much just to take stuff, there will no doubt be lipid screwing and down the line there will be price to pay, just like a motorcycle accident - it's not if you have one, it's when will it happen and how bad will it be.
Not looking into having a cycle developed for her. Looking for cycles other females have ran in the past with good results so she can be pointed towards compounds to research while she focuses on losing weight over the next year or so.
That way, she can have over a year of research under her belt and be more educated on what compounds she might want to run.
She wants inspiration from what others have done so she can begin to formulate something she may want to do in the far future.
anvilWomen have significantly less options then we do. Females have done winstrol, primo, low dose test, low dose var. Research away, I do not recommend winstrol or test for females but they do take them. HGH would be the best thing she can do, if that isn't what you are looking , you won't find answers here than.
Sooooo monkey see monkey do.... how bout listen to these guys. Even if it's far future just do your research anyways. Obviously you've said she needs to get bf% down first. Research everything in the meantime then start basic and build from there. That's what everyone's telling you. Your post literally says cycle for my wife. She needs to be less than 15% bodyfat.
Im already doing what everyone is saying I should do, V0411. If their reading comprehension was on par they would know that from the post.
I would never copy and paste someone else’s cycle. That’s just dumb. As anvil stated, women have significantly less options than men do and I was curious as to what the female community was opting to try so we can research it, not copy verbatim what they did.
Instead, everyone told me to do what the post says I’m already doing…..
No to anabolics!! She need to drop lbs. Once she get to 140ish then THINK about adding something, but she might not need it then or want it. She is VERY unhealthy and needs to eat better and exercise regularly before taking anabolics. She might have her thyroid levels checked but other than that, hold off for now. She CAN DO IT!!! It just takes time, effort, and PATIENCE.
Please see the section of my post that reads, “She doesn’t want to start her cycle till her BF% is lower.”
We’re already both very aware of what you just said. Thanks.
I’m only looking for input on cycles that are being ran by females that have proved beneficial.
AK8010 milligrams of Anavar under the tongue every other day and 30mg of testosterone enanthate once per week in the butt cheek with an Easy Touch 30g x 1/2" pin. Take a few days off the anavar or dial the test back to 15mg if she notices any virulization. Less carbs, but more fats like avocados, EVOO, nuts and salmon. Huge results within a month.
I have to agree when you can help her drop 100lbs +/- and her be in a good BF% to start a cycle that would be the best approach and yield the best results. When you take gear, the higher your bf% is the more you convert to estrogen = increase in her bf%. That's not what you want. If she was one of my current female clients that I'm coaching I would send her to a local weight loss clinic, get her started on phentermine and a glp-1. The Dr. will give her a calorie defecit to maintain. If she wanted to go a different route I would start her on a fat burning stack like an ECA stack(dirt cheap) and a GLP-1 (Sema, Tirz, Reta), and do the math and put her in a calorie defecit. I would also have her start w/ HGH @ 2iu ed at bedtime. Obviously daily fasted cardio @ 30-60 mins. She will now be well on her way with her fat loss journey. Which w/ her stats will be anywhere from 6-12 months. IMO that's how much work she has ahead of her before introducing any steroids. No steroids, 25mg Anavar is a MENS dosage bro. That's crazy talk. No steroids at all right now.
Why bedtime bud?
Thats funny, I am doing the same exact thing with the wife and she is loosing weight. Slowly but surely.
Please read the section of my post that reads, “She doesn’t want to start her cycle until her BF% is a bit lower.”
I’m well aware that steroids with a high BF is a bad idea for the reasons you listed.
She’s already on a glp-1 also, as stated in my post.
I’m only looking for cycles/compounds that other females have done with good results for use in the future.
Really no disrespect but if she didn't get some crazy results at 25mg a day (which is a ridiculous dosage for a women in general who is not competing) then it's a diet/training problem. Did she have an ilness? Because being that overweight and using 25mg anavar doesn't make sense.
No cycle and otherwise 10mg a day of var max (which I don't think is a good idea but ok).
She’s not on cycle now. She’s not running any Anavar. That was in the past. She wants to lose weight before ever touching anything again.
I’m literally only looking for cycles that females have ran with good results so when the time comes she can make a more educated decision on which (if any) of those compounds she might want to try.
Agree with him. You can do anavar here and there as a preworkout but thats a high amount of bf%. I would avoid anavar for right now or any other compounds and focus on cutting weight. That bf% with these supplements is not a good idea. At 25mg a day, that is a high dosage for many woman.
Stick with the tirz and add other peptides in the mix to help cut weight.
Loosing weight and building muscle is everyones dream.
NO DISRESPECT OR ANYTHING BUT IF YOU WANT TO DO THIS SAFELY, LOOSE MORE WEIGHT, THAN ADD COMPOUNDS.
This will give you time to research whats needed. I triple check everything I do for my wife and would never give her 25mg of anavar.
Wow guys. She’s not on cycle. It literally says, “She doesn’t want to start her cycle until her BF% is a bit lower.”
I also said in the post that she’s on Tirz (a glp-1 for weight loss) so she’s already purely focused on losing weight.
All I’m looking for is cycles that females have ran with good results so she can research those compounds and decide which (if any) she might want to try. In the future. When her bf is under control. As stated in the post.
NO DISRESPECT BUT DOES ANYONE ACTUALLY READ
THE POST AND COMPREHEND THE SITUATION?
I read it, a few times. Think the part of her running cycles must of confused me. But all of usbare on the same page.
Her you loud and clear bud but she doesn’t need to drop “a bit” more weight before considering cycling, more like half her body weight. This is no judgement on her or her appearance or whatever but she is almost 40% bodyfat and solidly in the “morbid obesity” category. She absolutely can lose the weight and when she does if she wants to do a cycle she absolutely should. But that is realistically well over a year away at this point which is what I think everyone is getting at. GLP-1s are great but she will lose significant muscle the longer she stays on them. I think the suggestion above of low dose hgh is a good one if she really wants to add anything else. For now I would say focus on diet and conditioning so that when she is ready a cycle will be effective. Good luck, keep us updated.
Realistically 20% body fat for a female is pretty healthy. Which means she needs to lose a little over 18% body fat. At 207 lbs that would be around 38 lbs, which is around 1/5th her Bodyweight, not half.
We are very aware she has a long road ahead of her. That’s not what this post was about, but thanks for your concern.
We are also very well aware that it could take months or years to achieve her goals depending on her cardio, caloric deficit, and NEAT.
We are wanting to do tons of research into any compounds she decides to run and where to source it so we are planning on focusing on weight now and doing about a years worth of research ahead of time because she is already solely focused on losing weight so there’s no need to suggest doing that because, if you read the post, that’s what she’s already doing….
I’m not going to quibble over the math or the likelihood that every ounce she loses will be fat. I will say that 5’3” 169lbs 20%bf is like top 1% genetically for a woman. I’m glad to know that you guys are aware and thinking about this and only meant to make sure you were thinking about it realistically.