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First cycle- besides the steroids, what else do I need on hand? First cycle

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Do I need an Aromatase Inhibitor (which one?) is it to take only if needed? Can Nolvadex be a substitute for an AI? I was just going to take the Nolva as my PCT. The more I research the more confused I am and keep thinking I need to add more to my order. Due to its “illegal” status it REALLY hard to find solid info - just lots of different opinions. Really overwhelming but when you’re ready to turn your body into a science experiment then I guess it’s the right time. My gains are super slow now that I’m 40. I was going to take an oral only cycle of Dbol, mostly because I’m overwhelmed with all the types of test and then the idea of ordering needles and then injecting a liquid from a company I never heard of - it’s scary. Maybe one day I’ll be able to afford the type of clinic/dr that can help me do it in the safest way.

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Epandler's picture

“That’s gold Jerry!”

CRAZY DOSER's picture

Perhaps your slow progress is due to using an incorrect training methodology, or you don’t pay enough attention to your diet, or neglecting recovery.

An oral-only cycle with Dianabol is not a bad idea, but you need to understand that with a single-compound cycle, you must use a proper dosage. You should aim for an effective dosage that delivers results without unnecessarily straining your glands. For most people such dose of Dbol is 25-30mg ed. Taking doses that are too low will stress your endocrine system without yielding any significant benefits.

I have doubts that any doctor or clinic would consult you on the non-medical use of steroids. I recommend considering a first injectable cycle with Testosterone Enanthate or Cypionate at 250–400 mg per week.

Nolvadex cannot replace AI.

Some users have pointed out that you’re overthinking the situation. With beginner dosages, injections are simple and almost painless.

Epandler's picture

Wow- that was very thought out , thanks.

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Pumped_'s picture

Is your real name eli andler, If so then DEA is reading same info as me waiting for you to place that order for first cycle lol

Edit: i edited out that other info so you have a chance to change it. Just wanted to show how easy it was to find ALL your info

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Epandler's picture

It’s actually Eli Andler- fuck! the FBI just showed up at my door…damn that was fast!

Pumped_'s picture

Haha they really dont care about a couple bottles for use but you still want to remain anonymous because they do look around these sites. It is schedule III and illegal.

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DavosD's picture

Delete that picture with your insta handle bro, thats not a smart thing to post on a forum about illegal drugs...

Im not gonna reply to the pic so you can delete your post.

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Mikeyt84LINY's picture

Don't complicate the shit out of it. Do some test start at 250 week work your way up to 500 maybe a Lil more depending how your feeling. Then work back down. It's not rocket science don't turn it into it. I don't like a.i. i like serms do I'll tell u yeah use nolva if needed. But only way to know is do it. You'll get bigger and stronger letting your estrogen go. Doubt you'll get off nipples your first time. Didn't happen to me for a Lil. But ever since I stared throwing 50mg clomid in every 3rd day i haven't had a sore nipple since. An the stuff your injecting yes how many people injecting the same shit on here everyday. U ever hear of anything bad from sterility issue? I don't think I've seen one forum post on here about that. There a Lil bit of alcohol in the oil so even if there was bacteria that got in it. It will die!.

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Epandler's picture

This is ACTUALLY really helpful. Thanks brother.

Jockstrap's picture

Lean down first so youre not fighting estrogen plus youll see your gains.

Epandler's picture

Thanks- I’ve leaned down in the past so I know how to do it. Basically just big bump to my protein and drop bread. 4 years ago it was at around 12 percent and I’m still sure I can get there if I stop with the “emotional eating”

Epandler's picture

I appreciate your honesty- sounds like I need to do more thinking. Thanks.

Epandler's picture

I don’t even know where to get syringes- also is TRT different than test?

Epandler's picture

Thanks- sorry I sound stupid. I’m buy no mean new to working out, just gear. I’m old enough that I’ll really benefit from test. I thought I’ve been depressed the last few year but I’m starting to wonder if it’s my treat effecting my energy levels, also dropped a lot of size.

Black90tsi's picture

You can order them off amazon or just go to any pharmacy so long as you live in a state that allows that. Some states you need drs script to buy them. TRT is just a dose of test to et you back into the normal healthy total test/free test ranges. You're talking about running an actual cycle which is meant to put you well passed that level. So it's the same thing just higher doses. Injecting yourself isn't as bad as you're making it out to be. It's kinda scary at first. But once you do it a couple times and find it's no more than a small little prick typically, or even no pain at all, it will just become a normal thing that's no big deal. Watch a few youtube videos on the different ways to do it and pick the one you like best.

There are plenty of online trt clinics that will cost you about $100/month. I'm unsure if that includes necessary bloodwork though as i don't use any of them. I use a local hormone specialist which is a fair bit more than an online clinic. But i like my dr and having someone local i can go to with questions or concerns whenever is worth the extra cost.

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Amazon

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Jockstrap's picture

Up top forums. Read em. You need that knowledge.

Epandler's picture

Seems to be a lot of conflicting information- basically it sounds like something’s will go wrong along the way and I may have to problem solve as they arrive. I’m assuming everyone was pretty scared when they started especially when not having a friend introduce it and trying to figure it out”on your own” . The question is do I have the balls to just start.

press1's picture

If you have been training for AT LEAST 1 year naturally, ideally 18 months, you have your diet and sleep nailed down, you LIVE for your training and cannot see yourself ever wanting to stop then I would say do a cycle. If its more a case of the fact you have been going to the gym for a month and there are other guys there who are much bigger than you and you want to look good - then don't start doing steroids. Once you use steroids your endocrine system will never return to the way it was before especially at 40 yrs of age, don't see ordering steroids the same as ordering a tub of protein powder because they are serious & dangerous substances.