posted Mon, 10/28/2024 - 17:10
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What injectable did you add after your first test only cycle and why
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What’s up y’all! Just looking for some insight on people’s experiences on when they added a second injectable. What was it? Why did you choose it? What issues did you come across? How did you fix it?
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OpieCunninghamTest E and Deca. Its been many years ago, but, the results I got, I guess you could say I was "hooked." Back then I was a very skinny kid, but my gains were so noticeable even my mom and friends noticed and commented on how much wt I had put on. But, I was able to "convince them" it was from consistent eating and going to the gym.
I think about this often. Sometimes I don’t see my family for months. Obviously I want to grow but not a a rate were people are gonna question what’s going on. I feel it is inevitable tho. O well I’ll cross that bridge when I get there ahahahah
People WILL say stuff buddy - its going to happen whether you like it or not. I remember thinking that everyone would be positive about it, that I'd just get you are looking well these days, have you got into training a lot again etc The negative shit and accusations about using gear actually came from my own family which was the worst part and I found it quite upsetting, that took some time to come to terms with as it makes you realise who is positive and behind you in life and who looks to bring you down - then again it was nothing I didn't already know lol Remember that NOTHING positive comes from admitting to doing steroids, even if people are nice to your face in the street about it they will be putting you down behind your back over it. I would just stick to 'Its running creatine and drinking 3 protein shakes per day LMAO No one can argue with that strategy as most don't know what they are talking about anyway Lol
Lmao I also won’t forget to let them know about the 6raw eggs I drink in the a.m before my run. I’m already used to dealing with being questioned and judged. People are constantly staring at me. I have 1” 1/2 plugs tryna reach 2”, dermal punched conch, 00g septum, appt for lip scalpel in December and plans for my tongue split next year. This is def gonna add to that freak factor. I’ve told 2 people I can trust and that’s as far as it goes for me.
My first additional product that I added to my injection cycle (Nandrolone Decanoate) was D-bol and it was a good choice. I was motivated and ready to train hard. I managed to significantly increase my strength capabilities and increase my body weight (about 30 pounds). 25-30 mg of D-bol EOD gave a powerful and balanced androgenic and anabolic effect if you keep within this dosage. It was a great time when you increased your muscle mass every week and added extra training weight to each exercise.
Now I understand that such stack (in testosterone absence) allowed me to avoid noticeable aromatization. It was a stroke of luck because I had no experience in cycle management and I didn't have access to AIs. The main problems were: water retention and, as a result, skin damage on the biceps and chest (striae), which appeared from incredible pumping during training. Guys who used such stacks looked a bit funny. The striae between the layers of skin were filled with arterial uncoagulated blood and decorated the wearer with bright scarlet wavy lines on the arms and chest. From a distance, you looked as if a jar of cherry jam had exploded in your hands. Girlfriends ran their fingers along the scarlet lines and asked "does it hurt?". And you, like a goddamn cool superhero, frowned and answered briefly "Tolerable, baby. Don't worry" :)))
The second additional steroid that I added in the next cycle was Test Mix. Such stack (Test Mix + Nandrolone + D-bol) became the main for me for the next 5-6 years. The problem that appeared after several cycles with such stack was somewhat ridiculous. I was no longer recognized by my friends, guys and girls, whom I had not met for the last 2-3 years.
Lmao! “Tolerable. Baby, don’t worry”. Damn you were unrecognizable! That’s what worries me. I would like to try adrol or sdrol but I don’t people to be like wtf are you doing.
First cycle equipoise test e
And I was add NPP 300mg 7week this best, I use balkan pharma
My first cycle was deca and dbol
So after my first cycled I used testosterone
So you used deca as your base? How did that go? How do you like dbol and what sides do you experience from it?
I had limp dick was a bloated mess I was 24 yrs old first cycle
I remember my ex telling me ypir dick is soft and I was like impossible I'm on steroids lol
Lmao!! You live and you learn
Exactly now I advise on any cycle testosterone as your base and mast e
Cabergoline for your 19nors steroids
Lol
Mast for AI effects? I’ve stocked up on Adex and Nolva kinda wished I would’ve got some primo or mast but hey it’s good to have this stuff on hand. Caber is definitely something I need to start stocking up on. Npp and tren are in my future
Remember caber is not only for tren and npp but for great sex with your woman once the caber build up 2-4weeks your orgasms will be more explosive and your able to get hard quick once u ejaculate
Sounds like a win win hahaha what’s the typical starting dose when needed?
U can get away with 1 pill a week 0.25
Some say they have a hard time ejaculating some don't but with the increase of dopamine from the caber you will notice a difference:)
Thanks for the info!
LMAO!!!
Hey bro we gotta start somewhere lol
This was NOT supposed to happen - I'm on Fackin GEEEAAARR!!!!
Lol i still remember her words soft as a noodle
I elected to add DECA as my first compound. I read & read, was nervous about “DECA dick”, which is what held me off as long as I had waited. The reason was for the joint conditioning / relief aspect for me. I can say having the worry I had, I was very regular with labs before I became comfortable with the drug.
Do you cycle deca or are you using low doses long term for joint relief?
I have taken to 500mg weekly with 600 Test, 3 times average of week 15 BP was out of my comfort level, I have ran/experimented "therapeutic" doses before and after those cycles. currently 350mg Test, 300mg Deca, 120mg MAST, 60MG DHB (bumping to 100 Thur).
What are you using to check BP? So many bp machines have bad reviews.
I have an “iHealth” from Amazon. Had like 35000 good reviews. I take it 3 times and use the average of the 3. When I stop in to local pharmacy I always check on theirs floor model also, while waiting in line.
I’ll check that one out. I need to get one
Nice! How high did you need to run it to notice joint relief?
for me is noticeable as low as 125mg, I can say I am a big fan of this current stack with 300mg.
Are you using mast as an AI?
Yes, I have used it in place of an “actual” AI since March.
I typically don’t have any e2 issues, My last labs on cruise at 200mg weekly I was 801 test & 12 E2 without the mast, it’s prob not needed right away, but I have learned to add when I incorporate deca.
AK80Can't remember if I did any Deca or not back in 2008. Definitely did Tren for the first time in 2022. Only did Anavar and Anadrol prior to that. Tried Superdrol this spring. But currently it's just Masteron & Primo. Will try some DHB next spring. I run my Test @ 500 per week and my Primo or Masteron @ 300 per week. Never went over 400 Tren per week due to the side effects.
Test and primo seems like the way to go. I’m really interested in Anadrol and sdrol for strength gains. Some how I have no interest in dbol but feel like I should try it first to see how I react. As far as tren ima try my best to hold off on that but I keep going back to welll I’ll micro dose and it’ll go good lol
Primo 600mg/week. Ran it for 20 weeks with very little sides. No negative health markers came back from bloods.
Made some very nice gains and have held onto then so far after cycle. I did not want a compound that just bloated me out and then disappeared after cycle. Primo has very dry lean gains.
Only issue I had was crashed E2 at times. I had some test p that I ran weekly that seemed to fix it although E2 remained pretty low the whole cycle.
What was your test/primo ratio? Primo has been the second compound I’ve been highly considering especially since it works as an AI. I’ll definitely be experimenting with that down the line.
1:1. Even then my e2 was pretty low at times.
3rd cycle i did 2 part test to 1 part deca ratio. It sounded like it was reasonably well tolerated for most people at those ratios. Didn't really have any issues other than making sure my e2 was under control.
What were you using for e2?
Arimidex
EQ, was supposed to be mild. Was very nice but I never got the same out of it again for some reason. The first time I tried it I got insane stamina. 2nd compound after that was masteron prop.
I’ve never considered EQ. Primo, mast p, and npp are the ones I’ve considered the most. I’ll have to look into EQ I honestly don’t know much about it
Same
My second injectable was E.Q as I was always reading online about how it made you eat so much more and appetite was something I always really struggled with. I did get the increase in what I could eat and generally felt really good on it, but when I read about needing to donate blood it really freaked me out at the time as at that point I had never even had a blood test let alone had it drained! I made the change to Deca though when I realised how much better it was for adding strength and size.
If I eat any more then I do now I’d go broke hahahah. I don’t want anything that’s gonna make me eat more. Damn no blood work. That’s what stopped me when I was younger. I knew I wouldn’t stay on top of it nor did I want to deal with it. Strength is what I’m after. I’m tryna get past 500 on dead and squat and 315 bench. I tried push pull leg for a while but it doesn’t help my numbers. I’m kinda tired of just looking big tho. I want to be more cut
AK80EVOO will help get you cut and still provide calories. A tablespoon in the morning and one before bed. Fiber will help keep you satiated, so Chia seeds are good for that. Focus on less carbs and more fats to get cut.
Thanks I’ll definitely look into and add evoo. I’m going through that now. Currently eating high protein and high fat. I was carb cycling at first and it sucked for a while but now I feel good. I can go 2 days with no carbs and feel fine. I got a lot of work to do but I see the improvements. My shoulders are looking a bit more round but what tripped me out is my traps! I took a year off work and just returned and my co workers noticed. It felt to get compliments. Since I look at myself everyday i don’t notice much. I’ve been taking pics tho to track body composition.
Old Skool here. Deca! Never got deca dick ever, thank God. Even mixing 1:1. Grew up with buddy who did deca only cycles before i knew about steroids. He never got deca dick doing that. Though i never did or will try myself. Real OrgSustanon and deca. I was told sustanon was of the Gods and blends ruled all. No AI or anything, explains my permanent gyno now
Same
I’ve always read 2:1 ratio. 1:1 scares me. I don’t want to experience deca dick but hey it might happen
My first cycle was sust 250 , deca and dbol This was before the big UGL surge when what we used was either pharma or veterinary. The sust were Oregon 1ml amps deca was the deca Norma Helios 2 ml vials at 100mg/ml and honestly can’t remember what the dbol were . This was the standard cycle back then and being pushed by the big guys who would talk to you about gear… before the internet so information was limited