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No carbohydrates in the morning?

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For a while now I have been doing no carbs in the morning on training days. On a bulk, I would typically stack all my carbs within my workout window. So pre workout meal (eaten an hour before training) is about 150g carbs, Intra HBCD is about 60g carbs, then Post workout snack then dinner is about 215g carbs.

How many carbs should I be adding in the morning? 50g? 100g?

What about lunch? I was told to avoid having carbs with every meal as that will destroy insulin sensitivity.

M1: Eggs + Turkey (No carbs)
M2: Chicken breast or steak (no carbs)
M3: Oatmeal and blueberries and granola (high carb PWO meal)
M4: Intra workout HBCD
M5: Small snack post gym, protein shake and fruit/candy
M6: Dinner, also high carb and high protein. Sometimes I'll make BBQ chicken pizza, could be sushi, could be mexican, etc.

ChuckThaDuck22's picture

Running Metformin 500 mg daily along with mk667 15mg at night time, should I bump anything up though been taking mk667 15mg a night for 13 days now, the meds really seem to be talking a hold I have zero cravings for sugar and have begun this cut like nobodies business

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creatinehcl's picture

Very important information is when you train... In recent years, in 99% of situations, I train early in the morning on an empty stomach, and my training is much better than when I trained in the evening full of carbohydrates. The first training on an empty stomach, I thought I would have to do a terrible training and drag myself around the gym because I'm old school (fill up with UH before training). Training on an empty stomach is far better for me in every aspect. Much more energy both physically and mentally. Training without UH later in the day unfortunately doesn't work for me at least. Then I really feel a drop in performance. You can hardly take in so many carbohydrates as to spoil insulin sensitivity. It's more about the choice of carbohydrates than the quantity.

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Rosschestzip's picture

I’d say it depends on your goals, your current bf % and also your body type, for example- arr you one of those guys that’s like a furnace and you can burn through practically anything, or can you tell the difference in the mirror if you ate extra desert last night? Do you gain fat the second you have a cheat meal?

If your goal is to really bulk up, you have to up the carbs, look at some of these big guys, there eating 1000+ carbs daily. And if insulin sensitivity is your concern, you can do carb cycling and also only do the crazy carbs while bulking and then low or no carb while cutting and run a mini cut every so often to reset insulin resistance.

I won’t go to the gym until I’ve had over 300 carbs for the day so far and try to have about 150 within two hours of the gym. You’re getting about 200 before and 200 after, which is great and exactly what I would recommend. Then I would add in about 100 in the morning, but that’s kind of a lot for one meal so you might want to split it between the two no carb meals you have. But I know you also want to keep some meals carb free. So you could also try just adding 50 to one meal and seeing how that goes. If you do the 100 for like a week and you notice you’re gaining to much fat then maybe dial it back and try the 50 instead.

That’s just what I’d do, see what other guys say to, they may have some different ideas or thoughts on it.

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press1's picture

Do you not find that you feel like absolute death when having no carbs before training? That would make me feel so miserable I wouldn't even want to lift in the first place.