Underdosed Gear? Restart or Extend? And a few extras.
Hello! Thank you so much for you help. I think I’m missing something or I need to switch companies. Took bloods three days after injection and AI. Concerned I wasted 8 weeks and need to take a break before doing my next one or if you think my levels are low enough I don’t need a major break before continuing again with different gear as I’ve never been in this position before.
Half way through cycle I’m on
500 cyp/week
50 Anavar/day (stopped last week due to concerns on and speculation of lowered sex drive)
.5/Anastrazole e3d
Total test 1900
Free test 600
Estradiol 70
Shbg 7
Reason for bloods again besides normal check ups is lack of weight gain like normal, no seemingly increased vascularity, strength is increasing but seems to be my normal strength gains, lack of increasing sex drive or morning wood.
Every-time I use 400-500/week test my levels are 2800+ on bloodwork. My adjustments are for eod ai and stopped anavar because i don’t like the way it feels currently.
Does 1900 seem very low for peak levels on 500? Is the anavar lowering my shbg which is raising my free test but may also be cause for lowered sex drive? And if my gear is underdosed, have I taken too much test this cycle to switch companies and extend it if I’m not concerned about pct as I’m normally on TRT.
Thank you so much again.
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Hey everyone thank you for the progressively more thoughtful and helpful answers. This is why I posed the question. Solutions were to do more or change gear, inject more often, which I’m considering even though I don’t want to do more than 500. That everything’s the same and I’ve changed how I metabolize etc. What if the next vial is more, then the guessing game continues and my goal is to
Minimize variables.
The second thing I took away is that because I’m not positive of my gear before vs gear now, I don’t feel comfortable providing the source and maybe hurting their business with my numbers being good enough that maybe slight variations in my metabolism, the gear, timing, and other variables are the cause. It obviously is working with my levels being 1900.
GrandmastersexySo who’s the source??
@Grandmastersexy Read the rules
Your gear could be under dosed or you could be metabolizing testosterone differently somehow. I've seen that happen before to a longtime member here several times after bloods. Your answer is one or the other, not complicated at all.
You kind of answered your own question. If you normally score 2800+ on 500mg then yeah your test is underdosed if you are now at 1900. Sex drive issue is estro. You still have a supraphysiological amount of test in your system to cause an enhanced libido so test amount is not the issue.
Ok yes I did, but I think my point is still being missed but I fully understand why. My main point was to ask if there’s any reason that this can happen without it being the gear. I’m trying to eliminate variables but I personally cannot come with any ideas and wanted to see if anyone else can. Thank you for the response
My opinion is to up your test to 750 and to inject 3 times aweek
What’s your estro look like? You could be tanking your estro, taking .5 e3d might be too much.
Estradiol is 78 with every third day….
Holding Eroids at value of being a review site, can you tell us the lab?
I’d prefer to talk to the lab first before putting their name out there for something I might be doing incorrectly but I will message you
Could you message me the source? Thank you.
Respectable. But let us know after you've done that. There is no need to keep it a secret.
It's not discussed in the forums either. He posts on the Sources page (NOT REVIEW PAGE) unless, he's making a review.
My bad chief, good to know.
So bloodwork is done 8 weeks into this cycle? And came back at 1900 at 500mg test. Yes that would mean your gear is a bit underdosed. But if you can't make gains on that test level with 50mg anavar, your problem is either your workout routine or diet or both...
Your restatement is correct. But I am making gains. And my diet is dialed in. I track all food and follow a very specific strength program. I mentioned that my gains in strength are not the same as when I normally cycle/sleeps not as good as normal/bunch of other minor sides which is the reason I got more blood work done further in to the cycle cause it felt off. Doesn’t feel bunk just felt different or not as strong.
My main questions were are these numbers low for what I’m taking so that I can make a more informed decision about switching sources and would it be wise to continue a normal 12 week with the same stuff even if it’s underdosed, cut my losses now, pct, and try again next time, or get new stuff and extend the cycle an extra certain amount of time considering where my levels have been for 2 Months.
Thank you
I don't get your issue. You know those numbers are low. So yes your gear is probably underdosed.
Your gear is not giving you the test levels you want. So either inject more or stay at the same amount.
What exactly do you want to hear? You are stil at a test level thats high enough to make muscle gains.
You could be more cordial. What I’m attempting to find out is whether there are other reasons besides underdosed gear that could cause levels to not be the same as other times doing the same thing.
I also don’t know if those levels are low three days after or in comparison to other people taking the same amounts.
And what I want to hear is an answer to the question if you weren’t getting the most out of your cycle because it’s not great stuff, would you stop your cycle early and regroup and try again later or continue with the cycle at those levels. It’s a question of opinion. Or if you could get better gear very quickly would there be harm in extending the time frame. I’m frustrated because I do this once a year and want it be under the best circumstances to get the most out of it.
If you have previously scored a higher reading on previous tests at the same dose then there could be no other reason than underdosed gear. Unless all of a sudden you are metabolising the gear quicker than before, but doubt this.
I wouldn't quit the cycle early, I'd increase test dose or if you have different brand of test you have confidence in or can quickly get some ordered in, use that. And if need be extended the cycle a 2-3 weeks.
My bad if I sounded like a dick.
Up your dose and keep going bud. No need to stop the gain train. Very smart that you did bloodwork and find out your test levels aren't where you want them to be.
I am trying to be as sure as I can be that im not missing a variable when I contact my vendor. So im asking for ideas before I assume it’s this and ask someone for compensation or move on from someone I’ve used for years so it’s important to be thorough
Well you have been told over and over its underdosed. If you were in the 2000s before then obviously its not your body. Up your dose to get your levels where you want and move on. Its not trash so probably not going to get compensation at 1900 on 500/wk. Its just not as strong as what you had before. Thats just my opinion and not real science.
I agree it looks a little underdosed based on bloods. We both know 500mg should hit a bit higher especially with it's peak.
Previous test could have actually been overdosed and this may now be properly dosed. Who knows.
It's basically a guessing game without knowing exactly how much test was in the gear he used back then and how much is in the gear he's using right now.
Tbh ordering from UGL's I'd be glad to know I'm not injecting salad oil.
Yep guessing game.
That is possible. 1900 isnt too bad a number. Dont know many sources who will compensate if still delivering those numbers