+ 4 Possible bunk parapharma?
Blood work as of yesterday:
Currently doing total of 450mg test as follows:
200mg of written prescription of test cypionate from doctor every week. ~.3ml injected EOD.
250mg parapharma Test E per week, ~.3ml injected every other day.
This should lead to ~450mg total testosterone injected a week.
Also using 450mg of parapharma tren A, 1.5ml injected EOD. Zero side effects whatsoever. No gains noted, no mental side effects. Nothing. Never had cough or tightness of lungs when injecting. Just this week I picked up a vial of tren from a different brand, and injected 1ml just to see, and instantly had the tightness in my lungs. I am currently on week 8 of this protocol.
For the last 4 weeks I have been running 80mg of parapharma Tbol every day.
Listed are my bio markers. I was feeling skeptical because I’ve never used this much Tbol and felt like I wasn’t getting very good results. My liver values are perfect, using only NAC as protectant. Obviously it’s tough for me to say the Tbol is bunk strictly due to having healthy liver values, but I really haven’t noticed any positive gains from it, and I also drink/party occasionally on the weekends, so surely with the combination of a real oral and that youd think I’d have to be elevated somewhat.
Very distraught with the total test reading. My 200mg prescription alone puts me at that level, so for it to stay the same? What am I injecting? Straight oil? This is why it’s great to be on TRT through a doctor and always continuing to utilize that while supplementing other testosterone because you never know.
Not here to bash UGFREAK either because he has always done me well, but I felt skeptical of this parapharma and these results are pretty crushing.
What’re your guys’s thoughts?
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DamikeLol that guys videos are great.
True. Man I just saw a women the other day that I know is 100% a woman and her damn hands and feet were ridiculously large. Her body looked normal but her hands and feet definitely stood out. Looked plain nasty. Lol even her daughter had those abnormal characteristics. Their hands looked so manly. Feet looked like one of those circus clowns wearing those big shoes.
Imagine the opposite? A guy with a nice little ass, great legs, dainty. I guess Prince was pretty close to something like that lol
Prince messed with many beautiful women though, many!
Dudes, but… they look better, much better, than a lot of women in my area.
You ain’t kidding, Bro! A lot of girls in our are seen like they’ve just given up trying to look good.
Some even quit wearing make up and quit shaving. Then on the other hand you have those that wear so much makeup that its clownish looking but they swear that the Earth revolves around them.
It's debateable which one is the best looking .....
The one on the right end looks like the girl at the washey washey I went to yesterday. I’m not being funny.
Good call!! If I was forced to pick I'd go for the one at the top in the middle. What about you @JakeKO @Mac12769 LMAO
@press1 The one on the far right, hands down. Top middle is my second choice.
Lol @JakeKO one of y'all already got ahold of one of them!
I’ll PM you the address of the washey washey, they all have vaginas though.
How about all 3? Top middle, bottom middle and far right - that could be interesting.
Idk. Bottom middle. But all of them are coated in makeup. I’m more of a natural beauty fan. Let a little makeup enhance, not make a mask. If you have to cover up whats underneath, I don’t want to know what’s inside.
You realise these are blokes right bud?! Lmfao
Lol I was trying to be more “progressive” No homo.
LMAO Ya got me!! I think Drex should put another of these up, they're fun!
Here’s a smorgasbord, pick one.
Number 2 for me
They’re all winners. I’d take any over the women on The View.
Edit- the toothy brunette that’s kind of mousey would get it.
I Dunno mate - some of them look downright frightening lol
RustyhookerHahaha....secrets.....
Too much tren and these start to become the preference
I mean…. Or so I’ve heard
It's possible the NAC could interfere with the immunoassay test. A lot of supplements do.
DaPumpTrue, but when it happens they crossreact and give falsely higher readings, not lower.
Not always. Masteron causes abnormally low readings in igf1 immunoassay tests.
DaPumpWeren't we talking about supplements causing false Testosterone readings? How did we end mentioning Masteron and IGF-1?
Btw Masteron may lower ENDOGENOUS IGF-1 like any compound with antiestrogenic effects.
If you injected Masteron with EXOGENOUS IGF-1 you'd see no drop for the latter, just like NAC can't lower EXOGENOUS Testosterone.
You surely aren't pinning 450mg worth of test. You have been on the tren a for 8wks? Don't go by sides like coughing but with that much tren after 8 wks you should be bat shit crazy by now and seen some significant body comp changes. Tbol has always been weak sauce IMO but a good way to judge your tbol would be to look at your SHBG, tbol will lower it just like provi. I still would have expected it to bump up your liver values more than they are though. I would be switching to different brand if I was in your shoes. Blood work doesn't lie.
I would’ve thought the same. I know people love to dick ride certain brands but bloodwork really doesn’t lie.
Damn hate to hear that this came from ugfreak. Don't worry about the fanboys that you speak of, facts are what matter. Hope y'all figure this out.
Take note of the batch numbers and forward to Freak and have them look into it. Kind of out of character for PP but sometimes shit happens so at least make them aware so they can check into it. This is UGL after all is said and done.
Head scratcher for sure. If it was got from an unverified source I could understand but UGF sending out bunk would be crazy on their part and couldn't imagine them accidentally messing up potentially 3 different products.
Has anyone heard of anyone else having the same problem?
RustyhookerId retest. I run a lot of para...never had issues. Yet youre having issue with all their stuff. Looking for sides too? Hok ws your carbs, foods etc? Retest
8reviews this year....dude you hear bout time off?
Really? You stating your rep on this source
Sorry Rusty, I had to lol
RustyhookerActually, i am....lol! That source page has been a busted fraud repeatedly. Im the one that busted em at least once. Twice...three times the news section. Lol!
DaPumpNo idea about what's going on with YOUR products but my one and only experience with this brand has been awful. Never again.
Curious what your experience was. I'll pm you mine, maybe it's similar?...
O yeah? What happened? I'm curious
DaPumpI'm going to PM you.
Cool
If you are still doing your prescribed amount of test per week and have your last bloodwork with your numbers, and this is the test with all those compounds added, you answered your own questions. Each person is different but using 100mg once a week of test C has me at 998. I have to get redialed in once again as that's too high for trt at my age but this isn't about me it's about your low levels
To be running 450mg of Tren ace per week and taking 80mg of TBol per day and only having an ALT of 28 seems very odd, normally Tren will bump Bilirubin up some too.
Exactly what I’m saying… somethings a bit off here. Was hoping to look a bit freakish this summer but have had no change in my body composition at all as one would typically expect from these compounds. Feels like I’m still on my cruise. Just pinning olive oil lol
I don't really know what to say here Bro as I've always been a Para fan and have run a lot of their stuff, its always been known for being particularly strong. Not run the Tbol tabs but have the Dbol 20's and 2 of them sends me off my tits lol The Tren ace I had a vial of not too long ago and that was a proper rust colour and felt great to be on. With tren you don't always have to have the cough, night sweats, lung constriction for it to be good. The best thing to do is speak to UG and see what he suggests bud - see if there are any recent tests done on the para gear. Have you not seen any decent strength increases with the tren or Tbol? I know you are coming back from a pec tear but you should still be getting some good strength from those 2 compounds.
Truthfully, no. My strength on my bench is climbing again but thats just getting back to where I was, so it’s hard to gauge on that coming back from a pec tear. Other big lifts, leg day, back day, shoulders, no crazy strength gains, still kinda sitting where I always was. But again, I know tren makes you strong as shit, but with me coming back from the pec tear I haven’t been going crazy heavy anywhere or training for strength, still focusing higher reps and was using the compound more for its effects on body composition and look. But nothing positive noted in that aspect either. Unfortunate.
I can totally see where you're coming from but it would make this whole thing easier if you were just using PP test E and not combining both C and E. We all assume the issue may be the test e since you scored well on your pharmaceutical test c, but again you can't be 100% certain unless you drop the pharmaceutical test c and just pin E alone. This method will leave no doubt of the problem. Too many times I've seen members mention that they are using several testosterones combined and single out one testosterone as being underdosed. Now they may be right but it would be easier and more certain if the focus was only on one testosterone, get bloods and evaluate from there.
Yeah I understand that, but if I test at those levels when I’m doing strictly my TRT dose from my prescription, you’d think it HAS to come back higher while injecting an additional 250mg, whether it’s E or whatever.
Yes it should be higher, that test e looks like the problem so I'm with ya but to be 100% certain you should only use that test e and get bloods.That way there aren't any other factors to consider. With that being said if that test is bunk then you'll probably have very low levels and feel like trash so ya gotta be careful and adjust from there. But I follow what you're saying
I don’t have the vial you do, so I can only comment on my experience and what you’ve posted. In my opinion, and it’s only my educated guess, is it’s bunk. BUT, I also have to say, I’m guessing your testosterone is through a clinic? Comes from a compounding pharmacy in Florida? Because that’s not a great number for 200mg weekly either. Blood draw timing could have you low, but still… with that being said, I hope you reached out to the Freak? He’ll make things right and check his entire inventory, his name is his reputation and he has a respected name if you know what I’m saying. He’s 100% solid. I’m not a human HPLC machine, but if we’re going by results, side effects, and pip (I’m very sensitive), all ParaPharma I’ve had from him was overdosed and I had to adjust my volume. Hope it works out bud, I’m sure it will, the Freak takes pride.