+ 4 Possible bunk parapharma?
Blood work as of yesterday:
Currently doing total of 450mg test as follows:
200mg of written prescription of test cypionate from doctor every week. ~.3ml injected EOD.
250mg parapharma Test E per week, ~.3ml injected every other day.
This should lead to ~450mg total testosterone injected a week.
Also using 450mg of parapharma tren A, 1.5ml injected EOD. Zero side effects whatsoever. No gains noted, no mental side effects. Nothing. Never had cough or tightness of lungs when injecting. Just this week I picked up a vial of tren from a different brand, and injected 1ml just to see, and instantly had the tightness in my lungs. I am currently on week 8 of this protocol.
For the last 4 weeks I have been running 80mg of parapharma Tbol every day.
Listed are my bio markers. I was feeling skeptical because I’ve never used this much Tbol and felt like I wasn’t getting very good results. My liver values are perfect, using only NAC as protectant. Obviously it’s tough for me to say the Tbol is bunk strictly due to having healthy liver values, but I really haven’t noticed any positive gains from it, and I also drink/party occasionally on the weekends, so surely with the combination of a real oral and that youd think I’d have to be elevated somewhat.
Very distraught with the total test reading. My 200mg prescription alone puts me at that level, so for it to stay the same? What am I injecting? Straight oil? This is why it’s great to be on TRT through a doctor and always continuing to utilize that while supplementing other testosterone because you never know.
Not here to bash UGFREAK either because he has always done me well, but I felt skeptical of this parapharma and these results are pretty crushing.
What’re your guys’s thoughts?
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We got the batch numbers on these. While each and every single batch isn't tested and shared, because they use the same raws for a TON of mass production, we do have lab results for other batches they produced using same raws. Para Pharma is a great company that produces tens of thousands of each product every time. It's not a few hundreds or a couple of thousands only.
After matching the batch numbers with the products tested, not gaining from or feeling any of those products is impossible. Not with these results. Sometimes the numbers are higher, other times they are little lower. It's acceptable numbers however. With all due respect to the OP, you cannot have had zero result from this product. Sure, you don't always get the side effects as others have pointed out, but this specific batch of Tren A 100, it's proven to be great through lab results and you even made a good review for this Tren A 100 from Para Pharma, on another source's page on eroids. They got a good review from it. This is the lab result: https://janoshik.com/tests/25785-TRENBO_A_100_4VURJ1H6XEIL Nov 2022
The Testo E 250 and Tbol:
https://janoshik.com/tests/12504-TESTO_E_250_5VYL6KF5L7DP From June 2021 just to include it as well
https://janoshik.com/tests/25770-TESTO_E_250_WP4W9Y4QKTH8 NOV 2022
https://janoshik.com/tests/25755-TURINABOL_20_A6BFHQ2GXIZW NOV 2022
We share the dates on these, because you said it was outdated. Going back to November 2022 is not outdated or many years ago, as we were told. There are many reviews to be found, not from too long ago.
We trust Para Pharma and these producs are proven to be legit. We understand you have taken bloods, but it seems something is off.
Here are a ton of lab results from Para Pharma for everyone to see. They're doing a great job!
https://janoshik.com/tests/25753-ANAVAR_50_TE79DDC7UB38
https://janoshik.com/tests/25752-ANAVAR_10_TKCW4ZVFIELX
https://janoshik.com/tests/25763-ARIMIDEX_15VNGFBLIADP
https://janoshik.com/tests/26386-AROMASIN_25_Z315P5RXIFCR
https://janoshik.com/tests/25764-CLENBUTEROL_40_J1TE2AZ4SFFF
https://janoshik.com/tests/25777-CUT_STACK_150_PHQBTXYK79I1
https://janoshik.com/tests/25756-DIANABOL_20_I4XQBGUIML78
https://janoshik.com/tests/25760-FEMARA_5_KCU5IH8PPJAW
https://janoshik.com/tests/25778-LONG_STACK_300_PPFJZD1D7WU7
https://janoshik.com/tests/25784-MASTO_P_100_SGM1T3JGF244
https://janoshik.com/tests/25787-PRIMO_100_LM9CB6D34PQ2
https://janoshik.com/tests/25788-PRIMO_200_2SE5MZUHP4M4
https://janoshik.com/tests/25759-PROVIRON_25_R77RJH5FT4S6
https://janoshik.com/tests/25768-T3_UAV9E3XW4ISI
https://janoshik.com/tests/25765-TAMOXIFEN_20_1QVHWN8MHNIH
https://janoshik.com/tests/12504-TESTO_E_250_5VYL6KF5L7DP From June 2021
https://janoshik.com/tests/25770-TESTO_E_250_WP4W9Y4QKTH8 NOV 2022
https://janoshik.com/tests/25785-TRENBO_A_100_4VURJ1H6XEIL
https://janoshik.com/tests/25755-TURINABOL_20_A6BFHQ2GXIZW NOV 2022
https://parapharma.org/storage/labtests/January2021/4Exc7MK6lh3qL1iKOuic... Jan 2021
https://janoshik.com/tests/25757-WINSTROL_10_8NC4UBFZ31IT NOV 2022
Hey brother sent you friend request wanted ask you question
Hey brother. I believe we've been friends for a long time. Since promo 52 at least. But sure, go ahead! Will send you a PM now.
Appreciate you going through all of this! Really odd results for me then. Again guys wasn’t here to bash UGfreak at all! I think he’s a great source and I know he has no control over products/quality!
Looks like those batch numbers you posted that I have tested good, so it’s weird that I’m not feeling anything. Maybe I’m just not responding well to this tren this time around and Tbol doesn’t work well for me. TBOL is known as a weaker oral to begin with, and after having some heavy dbol blasts and anadrol under my belt, I guess the Tbol is just underwhelming for me, so I apologize for jumping to quick conclusions!
Those test E results look good too but unfortunately aren’t from the batch number I have.
Overall just weird experience I guess. I usually test way higher on this amount of test, so wonder what is causing the low reading.
Don’t really know what else to say here, just odd.
Again thanks to UGFREAK for pulling all this info and being a great source as always. Currently awaiting another order from him I placed a few weeks ago, no bad blood here.
Sent you friend request bro. Need talk to you
You're welcome. We're glad we were able to show how well Para Pharma is doing and to prove their worth to others, including ressurance about quality when shopping at UGFREAK. Thank you for your kind words. You've made sure to let me know it's no hard feelings from the beginning. We're all cool! Hopefully you figure out what the deal is with your bloods or what the problem is for you.
Our pleasure! We look forward to deliver that order for sure, it should arrive soon. And we look forward to continue our business relationship and hopefully lots of satisfaction.
Well you should test the products yourself send them to jana
Lifted-presence92Currently running paraprimo 200 and loving it! Pmd the op the day this dude posted this and he didn’t even reply back figured something was a little fishy with this guy.
Thanks for the update freak!
Our pleasure! Happy to know you're enjoying that awesome Primo 200 brother. Thanks for sharing with us.
If I were taking 450mg/8 days of tren, 250mg/week of test on top of my trt, and 80 mg turinabol and didn't notice any side effects or results, I wouldn't be asking what anyone else thought. I would be making assertions.
What is it about "our thoughts" that you think will change your experience?
This is a review site. Make your claims and stand by them.
+1 and cheers for the bloodwork and not shooting off just blaming the source. I remember when a popular brand mislabeled its test prop as test enan and that caused chaos lol.
Whatever it is going on here I’m sure UGFREAK will get it sorted for you. Keep us all posted and good luck
Hi everyone,
First and foremost we must make it clear, that Para Pharma is one of the oldest brands around, and a very trusted and proven brand as well. There are a ton of lab results and bloods from others. Bodybuilders compete with PP. There's lots of great history with Para Pharma online in general.
We have a private conversation going on with the OP, Klunfky, as he reached out to us. We will look into his order. We will be back with more information, after carefully looking into this with the manufacturer Para Pharma.
Just to inform everyone. We have gotten the order information yesterday. We are waiting for batch numbers.
I'm surprised no one has asked but when did you receive that PP gear? Recently?
I believe it all came in roughly 5 months ago. I can share the batch numbers/expiration dates tomorrow when I’m home.
Very curious to hear from the source. 14hrs so far but every defendant should get to confront their accuser and mount his/her/they/them defense
Shit Bro have you done Jury service before?!! Lmao
Haha. I also see @Klunfky is currently in a UGFreak promo. Doesnt that give UGF immunity from bad press? And the source name redacted from "Ordered from:"? Lol
Can you post up the batch#/exp?
Yeah! That will be a YIKES for me dawg!
Hmmm that’s very alarming feedback …. I’ve been running Para for awhile now …. Never their Tren A tho … but 1.5cc without anything ?? That’s nuts. I know I’m on Tren within a week, especially with ace. It’s a bit wild to imagine them trying to pass off Tren Ace as anythinh but, since it’s so distinct, and to underdose or bad batch one of the cheapest compounds like test e. I’d really like to see the source weigh in … this is bad business if true. I’ve never seen a HPLC on para to indicate otherwise with their product quality/consistency.
If you test again, I'd drop the NAC the week prior to getting blood drawn. NAC can lower androgen levels maybe its fucking with your test results.
DaPumpNAC does not lower Testosterone in any way, shape or form.
What he and I said below - citation below:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36597797/
Exerpt: NAC significantly reduced total testosterone (TT) levels (standardised mean difference (SMD): −0·25 ng/ml; 95 % CI (−0·39, −0·10); ‘P < 0·001’, I2 = 53·9 %, P = 0·034) and increased follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH) levels (SMD: 0·39 mg/ml; 95 % CI (0·07, 0·71); P = 0·01, I2 = 70·9 %, P = 0·002).
RustyhookerFor women....duuuh
Funny that increased fsh us exactly what we do to get testosterone boosted. Gotta extrapolate the full info
DaPumpAnd no effect in MEN.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33405232/
Regardless, if it had an effect it'd be on endogenous Testosterone ONLY.
Stop posting nonsense.
I’m not looking to take sides here, or looking for a fight, but you do realize this study was done as a trial to treat women with ovarian cysts? I’ve known women with this condition, unless he’s having irregular menstrual cycles, or unexplained heavy bleeding while he’s on his period, this study doesn’t really apply to this particular issue.
Maybe that’s why my total test was low. Very heavy period and losing too much blood. All the testosterone circulating in my blood was bled out of my vagina. Jokes aside, i doubt NAC would effect it that heavily, not to mention I really can’t imagine it effecting exogenous testosterone levels being pinned into the body.
You don't think something like nac could fuck up a blood draw then think its bunk gear? Lol
Lol, bag of chocolates on your desk at work and swollen ankles, it’ll pass. Unfortunately it sounds like the gear my man. It’ll work out.
RustyhookerCure...stop budlight....lol
You’d never know and it might be the best night of your life. I wouldn’t even judge.
RustyhookerBeauty is as close as a lightswitch....
The lap dance is always better when the stripper is crying!!!!
And related.
Man you’re not kidding lol
Lifted-presence92Nahh bro always check the hands, feet and neck dead give aways……
Willing to bet my whole legendary testosterone collection that some of y'all Juiceheads sampled a few of these " lady boys"...hahahaha. Guaranteed with off the chart sky high test levels and all that cialis! But hey y'all got the right to remain silent. What ya think @JakeKO lol?
You know someone must’ve gotten scammed at some point, LOL. Never been in that position, thank God!
Lmao. That's too funny. Chances are by looking at that pic you're right too.
I feel bad for hijacking this guys post, but it looks like Asian ladyboys are a hot topic.
Are those dudes or women?
Sometimes that jawline is a giveaway but I've seen a few women with that defined jawline.
Man I’m glad I don’t go out anymore. Couple drinks and I’d be tricked. No Homo
These are the times we're living in. Only gonna get worse.
Gotta look at the knuckles and feet.
DamikeWaste to hip ratio says it all. Women have wider pelvic bones then men. The budlight he/she is easily identified as a man when you see his wider shoulders and narrow hips. Guys generally have more of V taper bone structure women have hour glass. Of course there are a few exceptions.
You know there are a few exceptions from experience, I suppose?
+1 yes hips are a giveaway. Well like that song says...the hips don't lie. Will say also that I've seen a few guys with child bearing hips, which is rare.
The exception…
https://youtube.com/shorts/STv5-NNLzAA?feature=share