Vertebral Artery Dissection - Public Service Announcement and Opinion
Hello Everyone,
I am putting this out here for people to hear my story but I am also looking for opinions here. I know there isn't really much info and most would say listen to my doctors, which I am, but I just needed to see what you all thought. I am/was a healthy 40+ M. Worked out 5-6 days a week, watched everything that I ate. Now previously I did have hypertension, BP was a little high. Not on any meds at the time. All of a sudden, 6 weeks ago, I felt pressure on the back of my head, left side, and neck pain when I turned to the right. All on the left side. Honestly, I figured I just hurt it lifting either doing shrugs, or something with shoulders or back. But it really started to affect my workouts, hell, even being able to work out. So I took nearly 2 weeks off. After that, I felt great, felt back to normal, felt like me again!! So I started ramping up my workouts again. Wasn't having any issues. Then on a Sunday, I worked out heavy arms, cooked breakfast for the family, and even started meal prepping for the week. That's when I started to feel off. I stopped what I was doing and told my wife something wasn't right. Left side of my face and tongue was starting to get that feeling when a body part is falling asleep. But this didn't last long. It went away. So I got up off the couch and started prepping again. Then it came back a little stronger and my left side of my teeth hurt this time. So we packed up and headed to the hospital. I felt great sitting in the waiting room. The worst episode happened then. In the ER I broke into a sweat, BP spiked 203/110. I couldn't speak and I lost the ability to swallow. This all went away fairly quickly though. Like 10-15min range. I was in the hospital for 5 days. Scans showed I had a Vertebral Artery Dissection. A tear in the inner lining of the left artery supplying blood to the brain. It caused me to have a moderate stroke. Long story short. I have recovered from any facing drooping issues, pain, etc... I don't look, sound, act like someone that had a stroke. I was told I am very lucky. Now I am on 3 BP meds, aspirin and Lipitor. I am feeling pretty good. I feel pretty good all things considered. But I have been told not to lift any weights. For like 6 weeks. Till I get a follow up scan. Then maybe in 3 months I can do resistance bands. 6 months I could pick up light weights. And I have been told lifting heavy weights might be out of the question. I am wondering, your opinions, do think I will or would be able to get moderately heavy? Would it be worth taking gear anymore if I am unable to go to the extreme with heavy weights? Can you build good size muscle with moderate weights and a little more reps along with a better mind/muscle focus? Sounds crazy. So sorry for the rant. But I also wanted to let everyone hear what happened to me. And to not take your body for granted. Listen to your body. I am lucky to be alive. A few doctors told me that I should be disabled because of the type of incident. Any questions about my accident, don't know if it was done lifting or random, let me know. I can try and answer, or at least give you my experience. Thanks to everyone for lending an ear!!
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You are lucky to be alive. Would I ever run anymore cycles after an episode like that, hell no. More to life than steroids. Enjoy your family. Listen to the docs.
That is what I am thinking. Maybe just TRT if needed. But I think it is all going to hinge on follow up scans. Just a waiting game now. The weirdest thing is to not look like I went through this, and feel so good. I feel like I could pick up where I left off. But I know not to do that and take it easy.
AnonYou almost died.
Cause unkown if I'm reading this right? If the cause is found please update us.
It really makes you value each day. Be safe. Follow your doctor's advice, please. Hang in there. We all heard of someone coming back from some real bad injury and I didn't see anything in your post to make me believe you won't make 100% recovery. Follow your doctor's advice.
To ease worries, maaaan I would search "Vertebral Artery Dissection" and read up and try to get an idea of how common and the recovery rates...etc if I knew anything on this I would share it but this is a new one to me.
You are reading it correctly. No prior health concerns. Hypertension. But was not on any meds. They believe it should heal on its own. I just have to suck it up and literally not do anything. For awhile. Which sucks. I have searched the internet for info on exercise and VAD injuries. They are all over. Not much. I am considered young for this and I don’t really have any residual side effects. As of right now. I saw most people who recover, it is like a 6-12 month recovery. Limited exercise. And I did see a 1% chance of reoccurring for ten years. So who knows. Just sucks to not be able to throw up heavy weights. I will have to adjust when the time is right.
AnonThank you for the response. Good to hear people recover. Ask your doctor about body wieght excersizes and what is safe, stick to that.
I think you should buy a BP monitor and do some daily monitoring of you own and write down the results/date/time. And share those notes with your doctor. Can't hurt. Might help.
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkRustyhooker4th strange and odd public posted this week!
Scared to leave house
Dieing by heart failure
One i didnt waste time on
Now this...
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LOL....bro, you need to go on the road with Joe Rogan! I dont know exactly how you'd react to the "cancel culture!" but I'd be willing to watch it on pay-per-view.
I see your comments all the time. Enjoy them. You are funny!! This whole thing I just went through was odd. Just had a wellness visit with PCP in December and was fine.
RustyhookerHopefully you and your dr get this figured for your safety. Gearheads isnt the library for something this severe
There isn’t a whole lot that fits my situation on any other search engines haha. I know everyone has gone through something or knows of someone. I am going to listen to doctors and make sure I am 100% before I move forward with light, moderate or even heavy weights. Better to be safe than sorry. Appreciate it!!
RustyhookerYessir. This is something way above tears pulls or basic injuries. Im sure youre sering a specialist so ask them about light weight and cardio sessions. At least if thats possible youre still active.
OGJuggernautIs there a surgical fix? If not, don't lift heavy on a weak artery effected by 'physical pressure.' We want you here, not as a cautionary tale. You got a taste, with a pseudo TIA. How'd you like to be that way permanently? No thank you. Also, if you got one weak artery/vein...could be just that one or could 'more', could be all. Who knows?
Do understand that statins and antihypertensives (possibly) are fixing the root cause. They arent doing anything to fix the damaged artery.
Good luck, my friend. Glad you're here to share your story.
No surgery has been talked about. Taking amlodipine, lisinopril, hydrochlorothiazide for BP. Aspirin for blood thinning. And Lipitor. Wasn’t taking anything prior. I have a follow up scan in 6 weeks. To see if the artery of healing. If not. Then I guess next steps will be a surgical fix. All other arteries and heart appeared to be fine. Heart was told was good. Could have been a combo of hypertension, exercise, possible weaker artery. Never had any medical issues prior. So crazy.
Definitely follow the docs advice, it sounds like there may have been an aneurysm in one of those tiny vessels so no one would have see it coming unless they were looking for it, But definitely don’t push yourself right now. Aspirin is great for preventing strokes in high risk patients but that does mean less viscous blood. So now you will have an even smaller window for treatment now that your blood is “thinned”.
It sucks but id be looking to find a new passion in cycling or some other sport that doesn’t spike bp acutely. Definitely talk to your doc about exercise outlets like that for down the road.
And last thing, definitely be consistent with them meds, especially the statin. Even with recovery those vessels won’t be as pliable so keep that plaque to a minimum.
Definitely going to stay consistent with the meds. Probably will be able to drop Lipitor at some point. Will more than likely stay on BP meds as required. Just to keep BP in check. Especially if I am able to run gear again. Diet wise, I am starting to take a different approach. Adding in fruits and veggies that are know to help with artery elasticity. Try and do whatever I can so that this issue doesn’t become a problem again. Again, it will all be dependent on the next scan, and I am sure following scans down the road. Moderate or lighter weight, I would learn to live with it. Adjust. But to give it up, start a new passion, that would be rough haha. I am just an old dog who can’t learn a new trick. But I would figure something out. One way or the other. Staying alive would be the best option.