+ 2 14 week cycle of primo smacked my shbg and e2
Me and a buddy of mine at the gym ran similar cycles for the last few months. Basically trt doses(140mg/week)of test and 600mg/week of primo. His trt dose is at 200, plus he is 50 (240lb)pounds more muscular than me. Neither one of us use any ai.
Long story short, he crashed his e2 10 weeks in and mine fell to 15 at 14 weeks. His e2 usually runs in the mid 40s and mine in the mid 30s. Our total test numbers were both around 900 to 1000. My shbg fell to 8! That is an all time low for me. Both of us got bloods within a month of each other. Both of us experienced extreme fatigue, some anxiety, and i started to get some softer erections and brain fog. My weight stayed within 5 pounds within the entire cycle.
I know everyone's bodies behave differently, but looking in hindsight, what would you guys have done differently? Raise the test, lower the primo???
This might be my last primo cycle for a while, ive ran primo cycles 4 times before this at lower doses. Ive experience drops in e2 and shbg, but never to this extreme.
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Update, im feeling back to 100% again. Took about 2 to 3 weeks.
HalsssstPrimo are the nr 1
That is a pretty severe drop for primo. First are confident in the source that it it primo. If so then you are going to have to run higher test in the future with a primo cycle. I sure wouldn't lower the primo.
You can guess the source, i believe you have some of this primo too.
I would be pretty confident it is primo then. Bump up test or run some trestolone with it.
Thanks, thats what my doc told me too. To bump my test up.
Primo does act like a mild ai in some males, much like masteron, epistane and EQ can. Most it doesn’t effect but many compounds have a e2 lowering effect in certain males. Can this effect fluctuate..
Perhaps, why this happened to both you at the same time, again could be anything.
It’s all speculation until you send a sample out for testing. You’d be a brave man to approach that source’s discussion page without a sample test done due to the amount of ball fondling that goes on over there. Just ask shred how his most recent anavar experience was, I’m sure he’ll tell you all about it in great detail.
AnonEpistane aka Havoc was one of few pro-hormones that was really good imo. Not as liver toxic as many other pro-hormones, could be run longer, dry lean gains and insane endurance. I ran it many times. Solo and stacked.
My experience will live and die on this thread only. Do i doubt it was primo, not really, but i have no proof either way. Just, my bloods, my buddies bloods and our experiences.
Thanks
You’ve got a moral obligation to share your experience with the community bro. Just come prepared and if you can send out a sample to get to the long and short of it. I think it’s $150 odd total. Post it and move on with life.
Out of interest are you leaner than usual, or anything else change, for instance: diet/alcohol consumption/stress levels/on a new drug?
Not much has changed in my weight/life/workouts. I do believe it is primo, i think 600mg/week is too much for me at my trt dose. It did surprise me that my buddies bloodwork/feelings did similar things to mine. Im posting this for some feedback and to share my experience so others can learn/relate or educate me.
AnonIt was Anavar 50 and Test E 300. After all the shit I had to take for speaking up, as if the bunk gear experience wasn't bad enough...brother I will die on this hill.
The Test E300 was bunk for you? I just started it this week and hasn’t kicked it yet
AnonThe Anavar and Test E 300 I mentioned was NOT the same brand or lab as the Primo that Hasley is speaking about. Can't say brand name here, but it was not the same brand.
And my bad experience was about a year ago so it's not very relevant now because the batches are probably not the same as they were then.
Ok thank you for clarifying and my bad for confusion
AnonYou're welcome. Brands, labs, and source names are not allowed in the open forums according to Eroids rules. It's a rule so the forums don't get watered down with promotion. The owner of Eroids isn't a sell out that gets paid off by brands, labs, or sources to allow promotion in the forums as seen at other forum and review sites. It's a good thing. Specific brands can be discussed and reviewed at source pages on Eroids but not in the Eroids forums.
But I can honestly say it was not the same brand, lab, or source. And it was about a year ago too so what I got back then is probably not even the same batches available today.
I don’t doubt you will bro. I don’t want to get into it but the only way to handle something like this is to share your experience and get out, the more proof at your disposal the better protection you’ll have. Dont fight it out in the trenches, share the experience and move on.
AnonWhen I realized my E was crashed I would have skipped my AI once and started 10mg of dbol 2x a day for 3 to 5 days, the improvement would be noticeable in 3 to 5 days from my experience using the dbol hack for crashed E. I also wouldn't have been running Primo above 400mgs a week so I don't know what to say there. Being 14 or 15 weeks I would have dropped the Primo and upped the Test to 200 a week. I feel confident I could get back on track pretty fast from there.
I dropped it asap,, upped the test to 175 too. Highest ive ran primo in the past was 525mg. Im on the road to recovery, lol
RustyhookerNeither one of us use any ai
Maybe i misread but ....now you dropped ai? That would change things.
No ai use ever, i dropped the primo.
RustyhookerAhhhh....sorry...first cup of Coffee.
RustyhookerI bet that primo is masteron or masteron blend
Im pretty sure you can figure out the source pretty easy. Its not hard. It was tested.