Long-ish Term Travel - Min. 1 Month
Hey all,
Right to the point: I'm going to be traveling for 1 month or a little more overseas to what amounts to a remote location with restricted access. I'll be transitioning through another country as well and chances are I'll have roommates, potentially in a barracks (not military) type arrangement. I do not feel comfortable at all carrying or using on this trip due to the nature of the location. I've been on a cruise-blast cycle for too long to come off now and recover in time to go through it natty. I have an expensive option to get a prescription that I really can't afford right now. The other cheaper option I'm considering is a heavy front-load to get me through. I don't like that option, but it's the cheap and I don't need to carry or use my gear while there.
Basically, I'm considering a 1500mg front load Sustanon which has a ~18 day half-life for the long esters which would make up 960mg of the total injections. This would leave me with 240 mg after 2x half-life cycles or 36 days. Obviously, this is going to cause a major spike initially, and a gradual downward slide, but I'm hoping it'll sustain me to where I don't totally deflate, crash and burn during this time period. I'm certain I can sneak enough AI along for what will no doubt be a spike in estro from this high dose, so I'm not overly concerned about that.
Thoughts and input are greatly appreciated. I know it's not ideal, but what do you guys think?
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I never had any major issues. I honestly think I could have brought the test with me but never wanted to risk it. Not worth losing a job over and ending up in a foreign jail.
ClassyChassisThis thread is a year old.
Edit: The strangest part is that you apparently copied and pasted your comment from Eagles 2013 reply below. Is this some sort of code? Did I win?
ClassyChassisEagles 2013 12 months ago @Alphamale500
Test undeconate is the way to go. Sust is a terrible option here.
Alphamale500I would agree that a good dose of test undecanoate is probably your best option in this situation.
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Yeah, cruising on it now. It's fine.
I used to travel 4-6 weeks at a time to Asia for work and I would do a heavy test U dose right before leaving. When trips started pushing 6 weeks I would be a little flat towards the end, but never had any major issues. I honestly think I could have brought the test with me but never wanted to risk it. Not worth losing a job over and ending up in a foreign jail.
Definitely - I'd be tempted to throw in some Deca also but might not be worth it if he's not already using it.
AnonNot a bad idea..
Very true. I like throwing in a low dose of Deca to my cruise dose of test. But like you said if he doesn't already have a baseline level established there isn't much sense in starting it until he gets back.
RustyhookerSust would be bad imo. Folks below got ya correct. Dont be cheap.
Normally, I would never skimp on quality, but this is a trip I didn't have the heads up to plan for. Plus with the holidays coming up, a recent death in the family, etc. I've run a bit thin on finances, but had my current supply in check already. But I can afford UGL and test U. I just didn't think of that, which is exactly why I posted here. With a full-time career, family, training, diet, yada yada, the blinders narrow on somethings.
RustyhookerI hear ya. I got a team full of kids. It gets expensive quick. Lol. Be safe!
Work comes first. It’s been my experience with bloodwork that your system doesn’t just go straight down after a long cycle.
That’s how I lost my script.
Your not going to shrivel up and die.
Take a reasonable shot of Testu like John suggested and deal with it.
Honestly you sound like a junkie.
Work, Family, gym. That’s the proper cycle for us guys that aren’t pros..
Self prescribed was his first mistake. Now that work life calls there goes that terrible idea. Now time for a script, oops that can take months now. Noone ever thinks about the long term effects or when tomorrow comes. So now try and jam a 10ml shot in your ass for fear of psychological addiction. Indeed.
Haha, not sure if I'd consider myself a junkie, because I don't run crazy doses or cycles nor exceed reasonable doses and timelines for compounds like orals. I also run my ancillaries and support supps religiously, although I've still suffered an 'oh shit' before. We live and learn. If I inject 1500 mg (broken up in several injections) for this trip, it would be the absolute most I've ever injected in one week by around half. But if by junkie you mean I blast and cruise, then sure. When I started competing in the pros in my relative sport, I made the choice to stop coming off due to back to back to back competitions. I made peace with potential injects for life for TRT.
I definitely agree with you on priorities, but I put my family first before work and gym. You can find another job, but you only have one family.
I have to go with work. It’s my responsibility to provide a good quality of life for my family.
In almost 30 years I never had one unexcused absence.
Of course I had a good Union job which wasn’t replaceable here. Could be different for you. I made big money but wasn’t in a stable business so once I had good seniority I protected it.
A months not long you’ll be fine. I think your wise for not traveling with gear.
I think I'd front load Test Undeconate instead since it lasts so long!
AnonYikes, I'm gonna second trons advice, get the U..
If it's gonna make you broke, sust will work.. it'll keep test in you. It was originally designed for that wasn't it? Large pins, steady long release? But it didn't work for trt well? I don't remember the facts, so I could be way off....
But seeing as how you're BnC, you might avoid the sust, that'll spike you all over for 2 weeks lol
Check roidgraph.com or whatever it is, plot it out and see the release times of the different esters
They unfortunately don't have Sustanon on the SteroidGraph.
I've been running Sust for a long time very successfully by pinning it daily during blasts and typically test E during cruises, but found Sustanon twice per week during cruise to work just fine.
I realize the ED injections are unconventional, but I feel much more stable, I'm injecting much less per injection via insulin syringe so less invasive altogether, and get zero PIP. I have a personal preference for Sustanon because I have managed to control sides, estro, tapering, etc. much more successfully.
AnonSo many people just regurgitate other people's opinions it's rediculous. If ED pins with sust works for you great!
I for one, have zero problem with ED pins for up to 12 weeks..then I start to get annoyed. I feel 100% stable with prop ED, I've tried EOD and feel the difference, don't like it, I'd rather pin more and be less moody.
Sounds like you're going to look into undeconate, definitely the tool for the job, but honestly, even if you just didn't pin for a month, you wouldn't die, maybe be Moody and tired at the 4th week, but youd be fine...you won't lose that mass overnight.
Are you one of the guys in your Avi pic?
You're right, it's not the end of the world one way or another. But I don't want to be moody and exhausted from crashing when I have a big job ahead of me while I'm gone.
The guys in my pic are Bill Kazmaier and Jón Páll Sigmarsson.
Better alternative than Sustanon would be get some
Test U and figure out how to use it for your need-
Other than that. Prescription
TronSUSTANON?? Why would you choose Sustanon that contains short, med esters when you only want the long esters from it? This is a bad situation man. You can't afford the prescription? That's your absolute best option here man...if you have to test undecanoate would be best alternative..
Because I already have Sustanon on hand, and the decanoate in it has a pretty long half-life. To be fair, however, I've never really looked at test undecanoate, since it's not as common as E/C/P/S.
Script alone isn't the expensive part, it's the doctor's consultation on top of the script that gets me and the six week follow ups. For upfront and one followup rates, I could buy a TON of gear. The 60mL of Sustanon I have on hand cost me a small percentage of what the doc plus ~ two months of gear would cost me.
I'll look at getting some undecanoate. Even if I purchase a couple vials of that it'll be way cheaper than the script. Thanks for your feedback.