+ 4 What Are Some Of The Best and Worst Books About AAS Use
What's up fellas. As you guys know, there are many books out there regarding AAS use, and practically all of the different ways you can approach the subject. There are some that are cheap bullshit books, some great books which cost hundreds of dollars and everything in between. These types of books are very helpful to all AAS users, from beginners learning the basics to experienced users having a very good book for reference.
So, I'd just like to get some input from you guys on whichever AAS related books that you've read. Like which books were great and you would certainly recommend, and which are some of the shitty books that aren't worth wasting money on. And in your opinion, what made these books so good, great or not worth buying. This way other members, including myself will have an idea of which books are good and which may not be so good. Any input is appreciated. This will be especially helpful to me as I'm looking for a couple of new AAS books to buy. Thks!
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If you want to understand testosterone, Behre and Nieschlag's books (and studies) are where it is at.
If anyone wants a copy of let me know. Testosterone and Andrology are amazing... between them you will understand the test/endo and test/reproduction/trt systems.
William Llewellyn’s Anabolics is a very informative book that I have.
I was going to recommend this book.
Very old school but my favorite was Dan Duchaines The Underground Steroid Handbook 2
Michael Zumpano taught Dan Duchaine almost everything he knew! Michael taught a class at Gold's Gym on Sunday's about AAS. Called "Sunday School" Dan was a regular and talked Michael into doing a book with him. The first booklet. Sortly after Michael ended up getting a job with Joe Weider, opened up a supplement line, and cut ties with Shady Dan Duchaine. Sold his partnership off. Then Dan took it to the next level and did a lot of research with his fake student ID at UCLA that he made with a copy machine at Golds. Dan was instrumental to bringing clenbuterol, GHB, and nubain into the scene. Also, ruined a lot of bodybuilders careers cuz they got hooked on nubain and we're not able to reach their full potential.
Dan was well before his time and a very misunderstood man. We had become very good friends and I was devastated when he passed.
Do any of these books give any examples of Professional cycles used by Bodybuilders or Powerlifters? Other than Chris Duffy's I've never seen an actual copy of a proper powerlifting one .....
Have you checked out any of these books?
https://liftvault.com/resources/powerlifting-books/
Omg.. What ever happened to Chris Duffy!! Him & his girlfriend were crazy
One of the update Pamphlets did! Not many Cycles listed though... I’m actually trying to find them all, because they are worth a lot of money now. Copies of USH ll are going for $500/1000 plus on ebay!! Somewhere buried in my garage! It’s best to watch YouTube videos were the guys actually talk about their cycles! I found this online looks realistic!
https://www.musculardevelopment.com/articles/chemical-enhancement/14337-...
https://www.gannikus.de/hot-stuff/das-haben-die-bodybuilder-der-90er-wir...
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Milos log w/ drugs & doses 1997
Base of 500/750 mg Test only ++++
http://www.realx3mforum.com/smf/index.php?topic=16083.0;wap2
The Diary extracts from Milos that you had up before were pretty good, I'm assuming there he was using an amp per day of Para. Seems they are all at the bloody synthol game doesn't it - just banging it in any muscle group which needs a bit of added size without a thought. I'm not sure quite who that guy is trying to kid by saying you'll get onto the Olympia stage using 200mg of tren and 750 test though. Mind you things were much different back then though - 250lb's was considered big where as 300 is the base mark now .....
Nah... Para was Tren Hex & the amps were expensive! White & blue box(France) & the amp sat in a plastic tray! Most only did 2 or 3?a week! Even Yates on his protocol on the link above was only banging two or three of those a weekI! It was 1997; doses were lower & Parabolin was hard to find at that time. Was around the time it was discontinued & before UDG LAB gear. They were around $20/30 dollars an amp!!!!! 200 HEX is like running 300/400 of ACE. He was taking the Abombs too! 2 a day & Primo Depot & Primo S 25mg tabs(x2) a day in some daily logs. Remember it’s all pharmacy grade. Can’t compare pharmacy grade to underground lab gear!!! Milos is an honest guy in his video’s. Has helped many of pros and not even charge them. I believe his log book; The really interesting part was how many carbs he ate 400/500 grams a day & how low the slin/GH dose was!!! Look at his honesty here in this recent video.
https://youtu.be/Q3g1eBQFfCE
https://youtu.be/FPP_P4HlwZI
https://youtu.be/P0R3c6ZBmI0
Was it the para amps back in the day that came with a miniature saw looking thing to score the neck of the amp?
I still don't understand how Parabolan can be stronger than Ace at half the dose - It's more or less just enanth at 76mg/ml that was made as a softer ride compared to harsher ace. I think it's just 'Bro word' that it was stronger Lol
Only used tren e and a never tried para. Have always heard mixed reviews. Some say it is nothing special and costs more.
Others claim they used one or two amps a wk and its great. Maybe cause when they used it back in the day tren e and ace weren't around. So they couldn't compare them and see how strong ace is. Cant see that low of a dose for para esp. a once a wk inject doing anything.
As far as I'm aware it is much easier to tolerate as it doesn't hit as hard, very true - to those guys back then it would have felt strong as hell compared to other compounds that were available.
Would reason it was easier to tolerate if they were only using 2 amps a wk..,that's only 152 mgs.
It seems people still run it low compared to ace.
The main issue was the price & era! They were $25-$28 apiece! Also then if people wanted to get bigger they just trained harder and kept taking little amounts, now when people want to get bigger they keep training the same and take more gear! Lol
Yeah back in the day before the internet and UGL's when you got gear for someone in the gym.., all amps cost more then they do now. I remember test e single amp going for between 5 - 20 dollars depending on who you knew.
Highly agree with you on the training part as well. People dont train as hard nowadays. Stick to mostly plate loading machines and some db's.
People talk so much about gear and diet and dont understand they have to put in the work with hardcore training.
I see people on their phones, watching tv (should be no tvs in the weight room), and just lazy. Guys were more interested in getting bigger and stronger. Now the majority seems to only worry about trying to have abs and pretty much look like someone with a good natty build.
Wow! I never knew that re Zumpano teaching duchaine etc! Bad shit that nubain for sure, however ghb I used to really like. Dose was critical though depending on what you wanted it for, for sleep get it right and i went out like a light and woke up just before my alarm so refreshed. Too much though and I’d go out like a light but wake up in 3 hrs time and not go back to sleep. A little before sex was awesome aswell, go at it like a porn star for at least 5 minutes LMAO and then the most intense orgasm! Shame the wronguns of this world going round date taping people fucked it up for the normal ones!
Yeah his name was on the original USH along with Dan's!
Didnt Dan make the steroid book with the colored paper so one couldnt photocopy it?
Yes...The second one had gray pages! 1990 not sure about the original in 1982
Ah right, never noticed, though I knew the name when you said it.
Think my favourite book for no nonsense info was the first one I bought The World Anabolic Review 1996 I think it was called. Got a few other after that like the duchaine books and a couple by Paul Borresen (those borresen books were interesting because of the mad cycles and ideas he had in there).
I was a fan of "G". Made me sleep like a rock! That deep rem sleep. I wish it was still around in the nutrition stores like it was a long time ago.
Nubain and GHB are hardcore drugs to get high off. Have no reason for people in the gym to use. Seen nubain ruin several peoples lives. It is basically synthetic morphine.
They tried to justify that it allowed BB to train through pain. Since BB are use to IM injects it wasn't hard for them to switch to IV'ing nubain. Also caused withdrawals which made users go to other opiate drugs to keep from getting sick.
Ageed! Nubain ruined many BB's. I can't believe so many even tried it.
RustyhookerAgree!!
No comment, I'm looking for a resource as well
Alphamale500I can't believe that there's just about nobody that can recommend a good educational book on AAS, here on Eroids! Smh. Well, I'd like to go ahead and recommend a very good book that contains a lot of very good information regarding Testosterone, and basically all the different ways both endogenous and exogenous testosterone affect the male body. It also includes the best ways to best utilize test to optimize lifelong heath.
It's called The Definitive TRT Manual, by Jay Campbell. This is a great book especially for beginners and intermediates, and it goes a lot deeper into AAS related topics than the title may imply. And it's a fairly inexpensive book which costs about $30 on Amazon. This book is more so focused on testosterone rather than other AAS compounds. But it's important to learn what lies at the core of AAS use before you can move onto other topics, imo. It's a great book.
TronDon't need a book. We've got eroids.
In the days before the internet...The original Underground Steriod handbook & USH II was the original bible soo it has a special historic value to it...with it's grey pages soo you couldn't photo copy it & give to friends. More like a pamphlet than a book; in the 1980's & early 1990's it also came with a paper inside(order form). Had instructions to buy gear via money order with all kinds of Anabolics to a PO BOX in Venice Beach! I was too scared to order from it back then, but thought it was crazy & ballsy to do. Dan Duchaine was an outlaw 24/7! More of an old school train of thought on AAS & the recommended doses were much lower than used today. I need to go dig out my copy somewhere in a box buried in the garage.
Steroids by Bulkdaddy! Best book available!
One of the oldest but still best is Bill Phillips Anabolic Steroid Guide. Hard to find now it's a collectors item.
Alphamale500Does it contain a lot of advanced information, profiles on different AAS compounds and that type of information or???
That’s cute that you thought he’d actually respond to a follow up question.
Alphamale500Lol! Not much of a conversationalist I guess, right?
lol. Nope.
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Seemed pretty easy to me. Google’s crazy, right?
William Nathan Phillips Anabolic Reference Guide
Is that where you learned about HCG?
As one of my teachers said if its published in a book, there is a good chance that its outdated. For me the best "book" is pubmed, you have all the current information for free, the only downside is that you have to look for the information. And if I had to name a book as a base I would say any of university physiology.
Btw as Sam said eroids is awesome.
If someone wanted recommendations on diet or training books i can give good advice there, but imo the PEDs books are not worth.
I’d say... eroids. There’s volumes on the search function.
Alphamale500That's true. This is of course a great site full of great information. But it's also full of opinion and hearsay. I just prefer learning from a textbook style book where you can just look up different topics by chapter and such, like the books some of us used to study with in high school and college.
True. I know have learned a hell of a lot here
Molinin302Truth. I've been through tons of PDRs and the like, and they're great for interactions, etc... But for what we do the internet and reference to the NCBI is invaluable. And this site is definitely a great reference tool
Alphamale500Yes you can learn lots of AAS related information through the methods you mentioned. In fact, I used to be a big fan of PDR's many years ago when doing something I'd rather not mention. Don't you think that reading actual books is a much more efficient way to learn, than reading forums full of all different opinions, and websites full of half true and half bullshit information?
Of course there's good information in forums and on the internet as well, but I'd just prefer to learn from legitimate textbook style books. That's just my preference, and that's why I'm trying to find out some of the best AAS educational books out there.
Molinin302Definitely, like anything else you have to have a solid foundation. Desk reference books for physicians are great. The info in there will certainly not lie to you or steer you wrong. Dan Duchaines books were groundbreaking at the time, there's still knowledge in there, but people have wised up as far as dosages, PCTs, etc...
Prob Stuff from William Llewelyn
I’m remember Rusty posting a PCT protocol from some of his writings
I just looked up some books on Amazon and his seem to have good reviews
Alphamale500Yeah, I have a couple books by William Llewellyn that are really good books. I think he writes some of the best! You know, I was just looking through some AAS books that Amazon had for sale and there was one book that was over $500! Can you fuckn believe that?
Damn. Too much!
Alphamale500Yeah, right? I've never even seen a $500 dollar book before! Smh!