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+ 4 What Are Some Of The Best and Worst Books About AAS Use

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What's up fellas. As you guys know, there are many books out there regarding AAS use, and practically all of the different ways you can approach the subject. There are some that are cheap bullshit books, some great books which cost hundreds of dollars and everything in between. These types of books are very helpful to all AAS users, from beginners learning the basics to experienced users having a very good book for reference.

So, I'd just like to get some input from you guys on whichever AAS related books that you've read. Like which books were great and you would certainly recommend, and which are some of the shitty books that aren't worth wasting money on. And in your opinion, what made these books so good, great or not worth buying. This way other members, including myself will have an idea of which books are good and which may not be so good. Any input is appreciated. This will be especially helpful to me as I'm looking for a couple of new AAS books to buy. Thks!

giardap's picture

If you want to understand testosterone, Behre and Nieschlag's books (and studies) are where it is at.
If anyone wants a copy of let me know. Testosterone and Andrology are amazing... between them you will understand the test/endo and test/reproduction/trt systems.

Jthee35's picture

William Llewellyn’s Anabolics is a very informative book that I have.

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Achak's picture

I was going to recommend this book.

ashop's picture

Very old school but my favorite was Dan Duchaines The Underground Steroid Handbook 2

BJ's picture

Michael Zumpano taught Dan Duchaine almost everything he knew! Michael taught a class at Gold's Gym on Sunday's about AAS. Called "Sunday School" Dan was a regular and talked Michael into doing a book with him. The first booklet. Sortly after Michael ended up getting a job with Joe Weider, opened up a supplement line, and cut ties with Shady Dan Duchaine. Sold his partnership off. Then Dan took it to the next level and did a lot of research with his fake student ID at UCLA that he made with a copy machine at Golds. Dan was instrumental to bringing clenbuterol, GHB, and nubain into the scene. Also, ruined a lot of bodybuilders careers cuz they got hooked on nubain and we're not able to reach their full potential.

ashop's picture

Dan was well before his time and a very misunderstood man. We had become very good friends and I was devastated when he passed.

press1's picture

Do any of these books give any examples of Professional cycles used by Bodybuilders or Powerlifters? Other than Chris Duffy's I've never seen an actual copy of a proper powerlifting one .....

BJ's picture

Have you checked out any of these books?

https://liftvault.com/resources/powerlifting-books/

BJ's picture

Omg.. What ever happened to Chris Duffy!! Him & his girlfriend were crazy Smile One of the update Pamphlets did! Not many Cycles listed though... I’m actually trying to find them all, because they are worth a lot of money now. Copies of USH ll are going for $500/1000 plus on ebay!! Somewhere buried in my garage! It’s best to watch YouTube videos were the guys actually talk about their cycles! I found this online looks realistic!

https://www.musculardevelopment.com/articles/chemical-enhancement/14337-...

https://www.gannikus.de/hot-stuff/das-haben-die-bodybuilder-der-90er-wir...
(Scroll to bottom of link)
Milos log w/ drugs & doses 1997
Base of 500/750 mg Test only ++++

http://www.realx3mforum.com/smf/index.php?topic=16083.0;wap2

press1's picture

The Diary extracts from Milos that you had up before were pretty good, I'm assuming there he was using an amp per day of Para. Seems they are all at the bloody synthol game doesn't it - just banging it in any muscle group which needs a bit of added size without a thought. I'm not sure quite who that guy is trying to kid by saying you'll get onto the Olympia stage using 200mg of tren and 750 test though. Mind you things were much different back then though - 250lb's was considered big where as 300 is the base mark now .....

BJ's picture

Nah... Para was Tren Hex & the amps were expensive! White & blue box(France) & the amp sat in a plastic tray! Most only did 2 or 3?a week! Even Yates on his protocol on the link above was only banging two or three of those a weekI! It was 1997; doses were lower & Parabolin was hard to find at that time. Was around the time it was discontinued & before UDG LAB gear. They were around $20/30 dollars an amp!!!!! 200 HEX is like running 300/400 of ACE. He was taking the Abombs too! 2 a day & Primo Depot & Primo S 25mg tabs(x2) a day in some daily logs. Remember it’s all pharmacy grade. Can’t compare pharmacy grade to underground lab gear!!! Milos is an honest guy in his video’s. Has helped many of pros and not even charge them. I believe his log book; The really interesting part was how many carbs he ate 400/500 grams a day & how low the slin/GH dose was!!! Look at his honesty here in this recent video.

https://youtu.be/Q3g1eBQFfCE

https://youtu.be/FPP_P4HlwZI

https://youtu.be/P0R3c6ZBmI0

Spark's picture

Was it the para amps back in the day that came with a miniature saw looking thing to score the neck of the amp?

press1's picture

I still don't understand how Parabolan can be stronger than Ace at half the dose - It's more or less just enanth at 76mg/ml that was made as a softer ride compared to harsher ace. I think it's just 'Bro word' that it was stronger Lol

Spark's picture

Only used tren e and a never tried para. Have always heard mixed reviews. Some say it is nothing special and costs more.
Others claim they used one or two amps a wk and its great. Maybe cause when they used it back in the day tren e and ace weren't around. So they couldn't compare them and see how strong ace is. Cant see that low of a dose for para esp. a once a wk inject doing anything.

press1's picture

As far as I'm aware it is much easier to tolerate as it doesn't hit as hard, very true - to those guys back then it would have felt strong as hell compared to other compounds that were available.

Spark's picture

Would reason it was easier to tolerate if they were only using 2 amps a wk..,that's only 152 mgs.

It seems people still run it low compared to ace.

BJ's picture

The main issue was the price & era! They were $25-$28 apiece! Also then if people wanted to get bigger they just trained harder and kept taking little amounts, now when people want to get bigger they keep training the same and take more gear! Lol

Spark's picture

Yeah back in the day before the internet and UGL's when you got gear for someone in the gym.., all amps cost more then they do now. I remember test e single amp going for between 5 - 20 dollars depending on who you knew.
Highly agree with you on the training part as well. People dont train as hard nowadays. Stick to mostly plate loading machines and some db's.
People talk so much about gear and diet and dont understand they have to put in the work with hardcore training.
I see people on their phones, watching tv (should be no tvs in the weight room), and just lazy. Guys were more interested in getting bigger and stronger. Now the majority seems to only worry about trying to have abs and pretty much look like someone with a good natty build.

Redmanlfc's picture

Wow! I never knew that re Zumpano teaching duchaine etc! Bad shit that nubain for sure, however ghb I used to really like. Dose was critical though depending on what you wanted it for, for sleep get it right and i went out like a light and woke up just before my alarm so refreshed. Too much though and I’d go out like a light but wake up in 3 hrs time and not go back to sleep. A little before sex was awesome aswell, go at it like a porn star for at least 5 minutes LMAO and then the most intense orgasm! Shame the wronguns of this world going round date taping people fucked it up for the normal ones!

BJ's picture

Yeah his name was on the original USH along with Dan's!

Spark's picture

Didnt Dan make the steroid book with the colored paper so one couldnt photocopy it?

BJ's picture

Yes...The second one had gray pages! 1990 not sure about the original in 1982

Redmanlfc's picture

Ah right, never noticed, though I knew the name when you said it.

Think my favourite book for no nonsense info was the first one I bought The World Anabolic Review 1996 I think it was called. Got a few other after that like the duchaine books and a couple by Paul Borresen (those borresen books were interesting because of the mad cycles and ideas he had in there).

BJ's picture

I was a fan of "G". Made me sleep like a rock! That deep rem sleep. I wish it was still around in the nutrition stores like it was a long time ago.

Spark's picture

Nubain and GHB are hardcore drugs to get high off. Have no reason for people in the gym to use. Seen nubain ruin several peoples lives. It is basically synthetic morphine.
They tried to justify that it allowed BB to train through pain. Since BB are use to IM injects it wasn't hard for them to switch to IV'ing nubain. Also caused withdrawals which made users go to other opiate drugs to keep from getting sick.

BJ's picture

Ageed! Nubain ruined many BB's. I can't believe so many even tried it.

OlympicLats's picture

No comment, I'm looking for a resource as well

BJ's picture

In the days before the internet...The original Underground Steriod handbook & USH II was the original bible soo it has a special historic value to it...with it's grey pages soo you couldn't photo copy it & give to friends. More like a pamphlet than a book; in the 1980's & early 1990's it also came with a paper inside(order form). Had instructions to buy gear via money order with all kinds of Anabolics to a PO BOX in Venice Beach! I was too scared to order from it back then, but thought it was crazy & ballsy to do. Dan Duchaine was an outlaw 24/7! More of an old school train of thought on AAS & the recommended doses were much lower than used today. I need to go dig out my copy somewhere in a box buried in the garage.

Bulkdaddy's picture

Steroids by Bulkdaddy! Best book available!

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johnmarshall12's picture

One of the oldest but still best is Bill Phillips Anabolic Steroid Guide. Hard to find now it's a collectors item.

DfromPhilly's picture

That’s cute that you thought he’d actually respond to a follow up question.

DfromPhilly's picture

lol. Nope.

DfromPhilly's picture

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DfromPhilly's picture

Seemed pretty easy to me. Google’s crazy, right?

William Nathan Phillips Anabolic Reference Guide

Is that where you learned about HCG?

skydancer4's picture

As one of my teachers said if its published in a book, there is a good chance that its outdated. For me the best "book" is pubmed, you have all the current information for free, the only downside is that you have to look for the information. And if I had to name a book as a base I would say any of university physiology.
Btw as Sam said eroids is awesome.
If someone wanted recommendations on diet or training books i can give good advice there, but imo the PEDs books are not worth.

Sam I Am's picture

I’d say... eroids. There’s volumes on the search function.

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GizmoDuck's picture

True. I know have learned a hell of a lot here

GizmoDuck's picture

Prob Stuff from William Llewelyn

I’m remember Rusty posting a PCT protocol from some of his writings

I just looked up some books on Amazon and his seem to have good reviews

GizmoDuck's picture

Damn. Too much!