posted Thu, 08/29/2019 - 15:22
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-3 I'm new and looking to lose weight and gain strength
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I want to use an oral, I need to know dosage, if I need other supplements like anti estrogen, how often for dosage, and anything else I need to know...this is my first time...my boy recommended dbol
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This is silly stuff. I think you keep posting this and expect different answers. Best to make up your mind whether or not you want to really do this right or not.
A mercy killing is warranted.
jayiskPay for an online coach. One that claims to be a Pro BB. he will co-sign for you. And put you on a cycle that a Pro BB would run. This is true see it a lot.
Dbol is definitely a magical pill that every powerlifter knows about and eats like candy but it will never never make you lean due to activation of protein synthesis, glycogenesis.
According to scientific research by Dr. R.J.Shephard anything below 30mg is considered safe to use just incase you decide to get it for strength and not losing weight and better to combine orals with injections.
That sounds like regurgitation of something you've read. Every anabolic steroid has the capability of increasing protein synthesis and glycogenesis. Those are not the direct reasons why dbol isn't a good option for cutting fat.
I recommend you reconsider giving advice in the future until you learn more and stop promoting shitty drug use.
Theoretically, in lower dosases it is possible on dbol to cut fat if there is a very strict carbohydrate-free diet (not to hold water), but small doses are unlikely to give you any huge effect. Hormones will be down 100%. PCT after dbol will have to be done in any way, even after using it for a month or two, plus your own testosterone will drop. Is it worth it? Either plan a competent cycle with normal working dosages and PCT after, or just take legal fat burners and avoid all the risks.
In regards to something that I read, i assume we all study by reading books or by our experience.
Rustyhookerthis is the second time on this tgread you cosign oral only. Might just read and see how this place works first before you end up with troll tag too
Wtf? Arrogant and big mouthed and too lazy to do a little research! I've read all your comments below and if you're such a smart and knowledged guy, why did you ask? To loose weight you have to make a proper diet. Dbol is not going to help you to loose weight and oral only cycles are a bad idea. You shouldn't listen to your boy (imo this sounds a little gay, you better had written bud or mate).
“Boy” for buddy is pretty normal over here. I probably haven’t said it since I was 20, but i’ll At least give him that.
Way on board with the rest of what you said tho lol ++
jayiskone term i dont take lightly is being called "White Boy." To me that is the equivalent of being called a "Cracker" and i find it racist.
But yes "my boy " has always meant a friend.
RustyhookerIm a white boy and a cracker. If thats the worst thing ive heard.....
Agreed. “White boy” is definitely used in a demeaning way. No one ever means anything good when they address you as “white boy”
Although I don’t mind when black guys or girls say white boy when they’re describing someone. Like when black or Latino chicks go “oh, that white boy with the muscles?” Or “yea, that handsome ass white boy.” I’ll take that all day lol
After all, I’ll deacribe someone as “that tall black dude”. So it’s only fair.
jayiskAgree with you on that. Its all in the context of how and why its said. Good point.
Lmao... ok, thx for the enlightenment, bro. Where I come from we say "my boy" or "my girl" just to about our partners
Often the community has the wrong attitude towards new members, I admit. But, friend, your question is a beginner's one. Did you say you've been going to the gym since you were 20 and you don't know Google exists? On Eroids there are hundreds of recorded cycles where you can get information. However, you are not a child. Before writing bullshit think about it and do a more thorough search.
If you're getting so angry I think you're interested in some promo and you're looking for karma to join. Otherwise, drink a glass of wine, create another account (deleting the current one) and start with another attitude.
I get what you’re saying and ur hearts in the right place but that’s against the rules.
Brother, there are many other things in this community that are against the rules. Just look at the old members to whom all karma has been eliminated.
If you ask the moderators for their consent, I don't see anything wrong with deleting an account and creating a new one with a different attitude.
Clearly, since his karma has now plummeted.
Sir Pale is always available.
You’re right. If Pale said it was ok then sure.
But I’ll bet you my life Pale wouldn’t say it’s ok. And telling the dude to do that is a good way to get him banned.
He’d be more likely to reset his karma if he thought the dude didn’t deserve it. Unfortunately he made his bed.
Besides, I agree that we’re too hard on new guys sometimes, so I legitimately tried to help him when he first posted, if you go back a page you can see for yourself. Gave him legit advice on next steps and that we’d continue to help if he followed them.
He chose to ignore that, and instead argued with everyone else. Saying he doesn’t give a fuck, and he knows everything already ect. Calling us dope heads as he takes speed because his diet is so shitty he can’t lose fat on his own... This dude is simply a cunt.
I'll be the first to admit I can be very crass to so e newbies, but if you read their post and it is just plain stupid do you hold their hand? Case in point a newbie puts a post up yesterday that he is going to blast and cruise after the train wreck of a cycle he asked for help on. Guy was 160 pounds and 5 10 33 years old. Did multiple cycles previously. I flat out told him this is a safety and longevity site not yolo and stupidity. Noone wants to hear that food is the answer. He deleted his post. We see that on this post as well. Noone wants to hear the truth.
Agreed. And I’ve definitely been guilty of it myself. My only fear is that we’re so used to the idiots that sometimes we assume every new guy is the same and don’t give the (very few) legitimate ones a shot before we jump down their throats. They’re definitely few and far between tho and most deserve it. But recently I’ve noticed that so I’ve been trying to give some the benefit of the doubt if they’re close to what we’d normally accept.
This one backfired tho. Lol. Turns out the dude sucks and didn’t want real advice anyway. It was worth a shot I guess
+2 for effort.
I agree. Most likely this member is just passing through, I had guessed that.
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GreatWhiteSnarkWhat is karma? On this site...
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GreatWhiteSnarkPreciate the links but I dont give a fk in general and yall ain't impressive...reminds me of a bunch of dopefiends that think they're scientists now from being around dope their whole lives...meth scientists haha
We’re the dope fiends/meth scientists, but you’re the one taking speed everyday. Time to take a hard look at yourself boss.
I actually tried to help you and didn’t attack you below, but you’re more worried about arguing with people.
Fuck it. Do what you want. I could give a fuck if you succeed or fuck yourself up. Just don’t ask if you don’t wanna listen.
You asked the question not us . -2
Shoot. No one can come close to Heisenberg!
GreatWhiteSnarkYou're right I am bad...I dont know shit about this, you're right...I've never needed roids, I swell up quick, I have good gene's I guess...but I like food haha...fk your high horses about research, all I do is workout and feed on knowledge, u ain't intimidating shit...my attitude is matching yours bro...and maybe this shit aint for me, like I said, I dont need it...I'm almost 300 pounds but I'm in damn good shape and I'm strong as a bull pushing myself harder and further everyday...I aint a bodybuilder, I'm a powerlifter, there's a huge difference...anyway I'm gonna dabble in the research and I'll make my determination...I hope yall mthrfkrs still have nuts in your sack when your 80 from living on steroids haha
Lately people call themselves powerlifters so it excuses how fat they are. Too bad for you the hardest hitting strongmen and powerlifters are now under 15%. Getting mad because you're an idiot is your problem not ours. Lose some weight you meatball.
Since you are a 300 pound powerlifter you should know all this stuff. People here would definitely answer all your questions but from what i read I'm not even sure what is it that you want? If it is to lower appetite and lose weight: Sibutramine. If you want lean physique then: clenbuterol, masterolone, winstrol and even hgh would help. Just research what is more suitable for you and what doses. Plus cardio cardio and proper diet.
Sir, when I am 80, if I even get there, I highly think having nutts in my sack with be my first concern.
Shoot. I’m 39 and barely have nutts in my sack now!
And I’m not a bodybuilder either
I’m just a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude!
It looks like you didn’t do much research. Let me ask you this would you really trust people you know nothing about telling you what drug to put into you body??? Research bother.
GreatWhiteSnarkThat's what I was trying to do bro
Research isn’t asking to be spoon fed the info, it’s reading it on your own and digging for it. I’ll help you out, these two posts are a good way to start out:
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/are-you-truly-re...
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/answer-these-que...
GreatWhiteSnarkBet
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/pre-cycle-protocol
Boom, 1 more good one. There is plenty of good quality reading for you. I hope this helps you on your way.
GreatWhiteSnarkThat's alot...I appreciate it
GreatWhiteSnarkFkn lame as fuck
GreatWhiteSnarkI guess there's no straightforward way to do this, I need to be an expert or some shit...diet tips? No offense but fk all that...I've been in the gym like a soldier since I was 20...I know all about fkn diets and nutrition...I want to get on an anabolic steroid to skip steps 1-100 of eating greens and chicken...my diet is natural and organic and free of shit like chocolate, but I'm looking to become a fkn monster...I'm not fkn around...but I dont need this shit, ya I guess I am wolverine, I would be in that bitch all day if I could...this is what I do
“I'm still having trouble losing significant weight”
Sounds like you do need diet tips, coming from you...
You come in here thinking your all big and bad and you know everything, great. We all did, and soon enough you’ll realize that you don’t know shit. Actually, you should know that you don’t know shit because you asked about an Ora only cycle, and you don’t even know what steroid you want to use or the dosages. That’s all super basic shit.
So lose the attitude, you don’t know anything about steroids and we’re trying to help you learn. But we can’t help those who aren’t willing to learn and if your pride is getting in the way of you admitting you don’t know shit, then maybe this isn’t the place for you. If you Want to be that expert who’s at step 100, you got to put in the time and effort learning it and listen.
Look, I’m pretty new too, but I’m busting my ass trying to learn this and do it right. I feel pretty good about what I’ve been learning so far, and try to learn new stuff every day. but I’m no where near what experienced guys can teach. What I do know is that it’s all about the basics and if you wanna get advanced you have to have a strong base first. Be humble and learn, I have that problem too sometimes.
Ill bet my left nut your not even over 20yo and if you are, your the dumbest fucking 36yo to walk the face of this green earth.
steps 1-100 of greens and chicken are the absolute most important steps there are, an AAS is worthless with out food.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/training-nutrition-diet/weight-loss/nuritio...
https://www.eroids.com/forum/training-nutrition-diet/weight-loss/structu...
https://www.eroids.com/forum/training-nutrition-diet/weight-loss/your-fi...
The only orals you should be worried about is the food you are and aren’t putting in your mouth right now, hopefully these links will help you out! At the end of the day all weight loss must follow the laws of thermodynamics and if you are taking in less calories than you are expending, you WILL lose weight. If you’re not losing weight, well then you’re eating to much.
I suggest downloading MyFitPal and entering your info in, it will tell you how many calories you use on a daily basis based on your stats. You can also enter in your weight goals and it will give you a rough idea of how much you should be eating to reach that goal weight.
Best of luck! You may also consider having bloodwork drawn to check your hormone levels, sometimes wacky levels of hormones and thyroid will hinder weight loss.
GreatWhiteSnarkThat's y I'm asking questions on the forum...
You need to do a lil homework! No oral only! Do some studying and come back with an intelligent question.
Sounds like you got a diet and/or hormone problem. There are guys that can help guide you with both.
Get bloods as suggested below.
Buy this and take your ass to labcorp or go to the doctor and request what’s on here:
https://www.privatemdlabs.com/lab_tests.php?view=all&show=2117&category=...
Fast for 12 hours before going. And if you’re fucked in any of the categories get yourself to a doctor and have it professionally fixed. Don’t try and fix it yourself.
You work our every day at 36? When/how do you recover? Are you wolverine?
Dbol only for cutting huh? There’s a first for everything I suppose. Seriously though, don’t do that.
Get your diet in check, and get that panel (hormone and thyroid) and report back. We’ll help you from there.
I’d chill with the phentramine as well. As in dropping it. That shit is dangerous. Very wreckless. We’d like to see you stick around a while.
GreatWhiteSnarkI'm currently taking phentermine and deer antler spray but I'm still having trouble losing significant weight...I also dont wanna lose muscle mass
Let me get this straight... you claim you've been lifting for 16 years... you claim you dont need nutrition advice.... you're listed weight is nearly 300 pounds.... you want to lose weight.... you're already taking phentermine.... AND you dont want to take advice or the legitimate help offered to you by quality members that are trying to offer to give you a hand.....?
What the hell were you expecting when you came to this forum with this attitude and demeanor?
Since you think you've got it all figured out, go out and keep spinning your wheels getting no where and fuck your body up in the process, then.
You'll probably be back here in a few months asking why you cant get it up now.