posted Thu, 10/19/2017 - 10:50
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+ 5 Off season cycle from George Farah’s Camp
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One of Farah’s ifbb pro’s under him had me doing this when I hired him...enjoy.
Circa 2010, for an intermediate level npc SHW
1 Sust 250 eod switched to Enan 250 after 8 weeks
1 Deca 200 eod switched to EQ 200 after 8 weeks
5iu gh ed
4 weeks in, 50mg dbol ed for 6-7 weeks
Nothing special or fancy...more to follow...diet posted in the weight gain forum
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Looking at the compounds it's pretty damn obvious this isn't a contest prep cutter. I appreciate you looking out for new members and I respect your posting my brother, but it appears you're getting a little wound up on this one. He could have taken more time and made it clearer but not everyone proofreads as much as they should.
Let's hope growthman gets a chance to throw up a pic, that would certainly legitimize his post. It looks to me like the point he was trying to make is that you don't have to run every compound in the book at a pro level, but the doseages to get up there. Not big boy Bostin loyd up there, but up there.
Lol, glad I'm not the only one who can look st a cycle and know if it's contest prep of offseason. Test deca dbol, basically the most well know offseason cycle. And yes before someone points it out deca was used pre contest back in the day. But today, it's not.
Some of those old school deca cycles were run without test or ancillaries if I'm not mistaken? The certainly worked for some.
Yup, it was pretty standard. I'm trying something similar right now low test high nandrolone. Test is so engraved into our brains mine included, haven't got the balls to run a bilked without it. Not worried about sides, I'm worried about losing out on gains. If say a dose of just deca gives good gains, how could some added test not make it better? That's the way I look, but I actually have a friend who gets better gains running say 900mgs of deca and 300mgs of test vs 900mgs test and 500-600mgs deca. From what I've heard it's mostly us (USA) who loves test, lot of other countries Dont fuck with it at all.
I love hearing differing perspectives like that. Many ways to skin a cat.
Deca and dbol use to be the staple back in the day
Then this is a perfect time for knowledgeable members to do some educating.
RustyhookerPosting this crap is retarded. We got enough ding dongs running first few cycles that cant wipe their own asses and you post up this?
Im pondering a big neg.....
Post up current pix. Theres advanced groups here
This is an intermediate offseason cycle. Neg for what, sharing info that I paid for? I’ll take it down if the info is frowned upon—say the word.
I have more cycles (pre contest from Farah’s camp, as well as an offseason and pre contest cycle from Hany Rambod’s Camp, along with the diets and training regime’s in each appropriate forum) and that I would like to share, but not if it is frowned upon or belongs elsewhere.
RustyhookerGram of test and 800 deca is beyond intermediate. The 170lb 6ft tall copy n paste crew will blindly jump in with both feet.
How about we take it down bro? I’m making an effort to share with the community here...
A 170lb 6’r isn’t an intermediate level super heavyweight (meaning stage weight over 225).
A 170lb 6’r has no business taking aas at all.
Really a pro gave you this?
Test is test is test.
Switching from one test compound to another means you are still taking test. If anything , why wouldn't you start with Sust. to get those shorter acting esters kicking while the long esters build up? No mention of Ai's either.
Then Dbol not as a kick but as a mid-cycle for contest prep?
Fishy protocol
Read the post—it started with Sust. Dbol as a kick is a broscience thing for people who are impatient
Sorry, your ignorance befuddled me momentarily. May I ask, What rock did they move for you to crawl out from under in order to post such nonsense?
Sorry you’re having trouble...you can stay out of this thread. Thanks
Simmer down. If you offer up something prepare to discuss or defend it.
Discussing is no problem, but if someone is going to call me a child, ignorant, crawled from under a rock etc., then I think those are attacks, not really a discussion. I’m glad to discuss, don’t really want to defend attacks though. My intention is information sharing...
I agree no need for saying those types of things, unless it was a redicilous post which this isn't. Seems like people just wanna stick to discussing 500mg test only cycles lol. I'd would much rather read about proposed cycles from experienced bodybuilders, it's nice to get a break from "review my test only cycle."
While we all appreciate you sharing.......it certainly helps to write detailed accurate information.
First, You first state this was in prep for a contest very clearly in your title.. Now you deny it and say it was offseason.
Then you mention compounds, but neglect to state the length in which you ran everything in total. Merely stating you switched compounds and esters at the 8 week mark. Pairing this lack of information along with omitting a plethora of important and pertinent information. Such as Ai's, diet, results, positives, negatives, bloods. etc.
I have seen people with a 1 rating write more detailed and informative forums. Then you mention, Dbol kicking an offseason cycle is bro-science , which may be the funniest thing Ive heard all week. Yes, that statement is in my opinion, ignorant to state.
Your post has more holes in it than Swiss-Cheese. Which is obvious by the amount of confusion and negativity you have received across the board.
Cmon bro you know nothing gets sugar coated here. Most of us have been called out. If you beleive in what your doing don’t sweat it. Sticks and stones woulnt hurt you but as Rusty pointed out that much gear can...
True true...offering it up again to take down if any respected members feel this is beyond intermediate or dangerous. I respect you Sam. No intentions on hurting anyone here brother. Just trying to share my experience as it is real an honest.
Definitely not posting anything more extreme given to me by any other coaches...
Dbol kickstarting an offseason cycle is bro-science? Thank you for the belly laugh
It wasn't a Kickstarter.The dbol started week five.Have to admit I didn't understand it but there are many ways to cycle.
Yes, I saw that protocol. And yes you are certainly true on the many ways to run. But this was an exact quote from the man that was in reply to a comment. That dbol kicking a bulk is "bro-science". Which of course, is hilarious.
backonroidsLots of coaches do this switching every 6-8weeks even test ( I agree with you ) the likes of rich piana and Boston Lloyd have also mentioned this approach in their videos . I personally don't see the sense in it but am always happy for someone to tell me their experiences
Yup, 8 weeks or so then switch of esters. We had a pro on here few years back and he used to switch every 3 weeks. Not sure I agree with that but that's how he did it and he looked way better then all of us. Anything you can do to keep the body from getting used to it.
backonroidsIt's mad isn't it but with things like EQ aren't hey switching it before it kicks in properly ? But like you said these guys look good so there must be something in it for sure .
Thanks for the info.
And at the end of the day it shouldn't do any more harm switching esters. And if for some reason one doesn't agree (sustanon) you can switch back.
Yep keeps the body guessing...
backonroidsI still don't know why they switch esters every 6-8 weeks even on the test , can someone shine some light on this for me ?
You are correct in your assessment. Regardless, switching between esters of the same compound is , in my mind, pointless