IS ANY OF THE ANAVAR WE ARE GETTING REAL??
FIRST This post isn't calling anyone an idiot or wrong, because I personally get anavar withe every cycle.
I just recently just spoke to a pro bodybuilder that many of you might know and the conversation started gearing towards steroids. He didnt admit to anything, and i didnt ask because i just thought it was rude but i did ask about information considering certain steroids.
To break it down:
- He said you can only really trust pharma, there is no comparison
-There are UGL's every where, some better then others obviously
-Then we started talking about anavar and about how i thought it was one of the best steroids and must-have to every cycle
Then he continued to tell me yes on paper anavar is amazing, but doesn't matter from which ugl your getting it from but its not real anavar. He continued to mention that back in the day the biggest guys during the 70-80-90s only needed 10-15mg of pharm anavar. Labs that have 100mg tabs, 50mg tabs, and even 25mg tabs are not real and he was very firm on that,
I am just wondering are we all just ordering Tbol or winny? or the mixture of the two because they are easier to make, much cheaper, much easier to get.
What do you guys think?
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Would make a little more sense for my bloods
At first I didn’t realize this thread was so old. There is definitely legit Var at several of the sources on here.
What’s with all the old resurrected threads this morning??
Shit’s weird. I’ll chime in though— used to get pharmaceutical (flavored!) sublingual oxandralone from a compounding pharmacy in FL as prescribed by a legitimate (or at least perfectly legal) doctor. These came in 50mg iirc. 25-50/day was great and basically the exact same as ugl var minus the price tag.
Also this was before the 12 y/o post was even made if anyone is curious.
That sounds amazing. When did they stop that?
The particular pharmacy was shut down because (I hope this is within the rules) selling watermelon flavored oxandralone and stanzalol was somehow a violation of something or another. This particular dr/clinic would write for test, nandrolone, winstrol, anavar & hgh.
They're still out here, I know of a couple dozen places that sell pharmaceutical Var with script. Pretty legit. The mainstream TRT/anabolic hub is becoming larger. Limited selection in comparison to UGLs. Like you're not going to get Tren or EQ of course but you can get Var, sometimes mast, deca, maybe a few others and a ton of peps
When FL changed all their compounding pharmacy laws... FL was the hub for "pain clinics", essentially the reason and start of the opiate epidemic. Dudes were buying oxy scripts, then jumping from compounding pharmacy to compounding pharmacy picking up thousands of oxy pills... they then sold those pills up and down the east coast.. got everyone hooked on oxy which turned into heroin then in to fentanyl. The fentanyl problem we have today originated in relaxed compounding pharma laws which all originated in FL a decade to a decade and half ago (maybe even decades ago at this point)
This "buy a script" and jump from pharmacy to pharmacy was happening with all pharma made drugs and compounds.. it didnt work for weed or coke, but if a legitimate American lab made it, you could buy it using this formula. "Doctors" we getting paid hundreds of thousands of dollars "under the table" w/ the "pay for a prescription" model
I knew guys who went to jail for that, when they cracked down, they went hard.
Buddy of mine who was just a business man, opened a pain clinic and his Dr asked him if he could write a script to himself for some Oxy's, he said yes because he was an idiot and didn't know the laws, Dr got popped for pill milling and my buddy got a 10yr sentence based on that one time he allowed him to write his own script.
I understand the case-by-case scenario... but those pain clinics caused a lot of dispair, addiction, and kids growing up with no parents. Essentially, it was big pharma that abused the system, and the guys at the bottom paid the price for it
Meanwhile if you have legitimate chronic pain or a disease that causes chronic pain the most your doctor will give you these days is “thoughts and prayers, and some aspirin.”
Absolutely, those Doc's were getting kick backs for recommending medications and pushing them, despite anti kickback laws, they still were doing it and getting away with it. I personally hate the pharmaceutical industry, the FDA are real criminals
We are seeing the same thing now with Lilly and GLPs. Lilly will take over the Reta market here soon.. we all know they will pay some FDA employees to give preferential treatment and fuck over the compounding pharmacies
100% They went on a crusade earlier this year to shut down any website selling reta openly
Yea $10B in profit isn’t enough, they NEED ALL OF IT
Buy a roid test kit and stop sweating it. Always test your compounds before administering. For females especially this is critically essential
Glad I found this thread. I have been bitching on and off about the supposedly var I bought from a source here. And got totally fucked. I was taking a relatively small dose of 50mg a day for about 3 wks and got nothing out of it and my lab work showed my liver was out of wack. I am on TRT and have been for 2 years now but have never had a problem with my labs. I took real prescription grade Var by CENSORED about a year ago and was only taking 40mg a day and after the 1st week I started noticing results. It was fantastic. So yeah, be very careful when buying UGL Var. From all I have read it is the most counterfeited of the roids and usually with dbol and winstrol. I am posting this because not only do I hate getting screwed, I hate seeing anybody get screwed by these phony lieing fucks that only care about lining their pockets and putting our health at risk.
Rustyhookerno brands in forums.... and
my lab work showed my liver was out of wack
Out of wack because var is 17aa and your review etc was sketchy/unbelievable.
I forgot about the brand restriction. The brand name was wrong anyway but it does start with a W. There is nothing sketchy, just relaying the truth. take or leave it, I have nothing to prove to anyone about anything.
Rustyhookercolossal...delete brands or im taking karma. Read rules
Your pro bodybuilder friend is correct. I was a male 123/132lb powerlifter in the late 80's. Back then Searle Anavar 2.5mg was the only thing I cycled on. I would cycle up to no more than 15mg. This was the standard with us lower weight class nationally ranked lifters. Strength and vascularity incredible. I can't imagine the ugl dosages today don't raise a flag with anyone...I tried several times from different ugl's over the last 15 years and I know each time not var. Strength gains yes but slower. Nothing on vascularity. I would definitely guess dbol each time..
I know a pro trainer that says he does not put his girls on Var anymore because in the last couple of years he has not been able to find any source that has real anavar. Everything that he has test has d-bol in it. He notices a couple of years that the girls were holding on to water on Anavar (should not happen on var).
RustyhookerGuess he doesnt know where to look....smh
I noticed that some of the Underground labs raised the price of there Anavar fivefold. They probably realized people are catching on, and the labs are selling the real stuff now.
If you look at my pics you will see that I bought some Var for a lady friend. The sides that she got from it was not of Anavar. She got d-bol sides from that stuff. (water retention, enlarged clit, deep voice) She was only doing 10mg ed.
I test all my var now, at least until I really trust my supplier. With new source it is a must. They do switch it out with dbol. Happened to me. If I was a female, no way I would use any var without testing it first.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/beware-don%E2%80%99t-b...
Damn that’s dirty. I’ve heard of winny as var, but dbol? Wtf? That’s just plain old mean.
RustyhookerI saw that post and know it bit her hard in the wrong way. Its a dirty world out there if not careful. And sometimes just as dirty when you are careful.
So when certain lab sites that "test" these ugls that we are all familar with and they state "9.5mg of oxandrolone per 10mg tablet" is it fake? Are they usuing an analog that closely resembles oxandrolone so with cheaper tests its hard to detect the difference?
I love anavar on paper and still do believe that 30-50mg on the tail end of a cycle is almost mandatory to help retain gains but my confidence is starting to dwindle away.
Ill be one of the first to admit it, if i got an underdosed tbol tablet, i really wouldn't be able to tell the difference whether its anavar or not. Because you can sit there with a list of common oxandrolone symptoms and compare it to what you are feeling but not everyone feels every symptom. Some get acid reflux some dont, some get a littlr sizr some dont, some lean out some dont, etc.
I wonder if anyone has some confident proof in some experiences with some of these guys here on eroids and if they can pm me, thatd be excellent
Real Anavar is extremely expensive. I get my prescribed from Wells Pharmacy. 90 pills at 12.5mg each cost me 990.00. When I bought the same thing from a "legit source" it was 150.00 for 60 pills at 50mg each. Huge difference. Wish I would have none this info before I bought my fake Anavar. I cut up the pills to give me 12mg a day. I THOUGHT I was taking Anavar. I am a female so it screwed up my hormones badly!!! If a male took fake Anavar, it would be hard for him to tell the difference, IF he hasn't already before had the real deal.
In fact Anavar is not that expensive. A vial of Trenbolone Enanthate with 200mg/ml should be two times more expensive than a 10mg x 100 tabs Anavar bottle if we consider only the raw material cost. This whole "no real anavar exists in UGL's" it's a legend and is not true. In fact top UGL's are using raw materials sourced from same places the real pharma companies are using, India and China. There is no difference between good quality Chinese Anavar and Italy made anavar.
StevebSo why does Pharma Anavar at 20mg feel way too strong but take UGL at 20mg and you won't feel shit?
Because some UGL Anavar are scams. I wont call names. There is no difference between UGL genuine Anavar and genuine pharma grade Anavar. Anavar is a chemical discovered over 60 years ago and is easily synthesised at affordable costs by any decent chemical synthesis factory across the globe. Anavar is similar price wise to Masteron (gram/gram) and cheaper than Trenbolone. Why would we have plenty of GTG Trenbolone and Masteron and no Anavar?
StevebTry pharma Anavar first then comment.
I've tried. Same thing as good UGL. By the way, HPLC doesn't lie. Lots of UGL have positive Anavar lab tests from SIMEC. Do you claim those are fake? Or are you claiming there is some super-anavar in pharma grade stuff and an inferior grade in UGL?
StevebPositive for Anavar does not mean It's as strong as pharma grade. There are no UGL sources that sell Anavar which is equal to pharma. With pharma 10mg to 20mg is good enough.
I don't believe you've even seen pharma grade Anavar.
Steveb.
i think she was referring to pharmacy anavar, black market rules chamge everything.
take sildenafil aka viagra.
in the USA $60 a pill
in India 60 cents a pill
Chinese raws, 6 cents a dose.
I would have to disagree with your numbers. India has the cheapest sildenafil, many times cheaper than Chinese one. Human grade Anavar needs to buy the raw material from somewhere as well. What I've mentioned was a price ratio so it keeps valid indifferently if its human grade or not, the synth is the same and costs similar.
CMB, even if the stuff you got was dbol, tbol, adrol or winnie the sides you are experiencing now, a year later are very unusual.
Those other compounds might have deepened your voice, grown some hair,,, etc, but they alone should not have messed you up for so long. ( over a year, right)
Checking the LH and FSH levels will tell you just how hard your brain is trying to get your ovaries to put out hormones.
So dont beat yourself up too bad on the fake shit, i'm sure you would gladly trade what you are feeling now for some extra facial hair and a slightly easier to find clitoris.
You responded to the drugs quite different than most.
People say all the igf is fake out there and I disagree I get great pumps from it unless there is something else they are putting It that give amazing pumps regardless I love it.
It's not that all the IGF is fake but the one sold at discounted prices in the last few years is a molecule different than the one of real IGF-1 LR3. This doesn't mean it doesn't have similar effects but it's a different molecule because it's modified and shorter. For example there is 20kDa HGH instead of 22kDa HGH and obviously they have different pharmacological effects.
There definitely is real and properly dosed anavar out there from non pharma sources. Independent lab tests have shown that. He's right in a way though. It's not something you can grab from just any old UGL. There is also plenty of bunk stuff out there. Hopefully as more and more people and websites post test results it will force the shady places to just stop carrying it rather than scamming.
CoblerUsed var for the first time last year, amazing pumps, strengh hardness, no other oral gave me what var did, couldnt tell if it was well dosed as id not used it before but it was certainly var.
I've had good var plenty of times from ugl. If I take it empty stomach I get a serious pump just standing there. Little indigestion too.
Thank you guys for continuing to put your input on my thread. I love throwing "anavar" or now Tbol on the tail ends of my cycles. I feel like it just helps dial everything in and it's like the iceing on the cake. I don't run crazy cycles
-Var50 (first cycle and yes a mistake I know)
-Then:
-Test400/Var50-75
-Test400/EQ500/Var50-100
-Test350/Npp400/Tbol50-75
So far.. But I really do want to run
-Test300/TrenA400/Tbo75/Var75
But I'm deathly afraid of tren and hair loss. So far iv been lucky and have a thick full head but I'm afraid tren is going to start the miserable path of thinning and scalp checking 10x a day. But I'm dying to run that cycle to the point that iv already got everything ready to go lol and have just been staring at it.
Wow 2 years old . I need sleep then
I read supject about anavar before but I don't remember where here or some where else . But all what I remember that someone said of the anavar dosed correctly you need maximum from 20 up to 30 per day . I tried anavar for first time last year . And I decided to put it in every cycle I do . This year I'll use one of the best anavar I heard of it . We will see because I'm planning to start by 30 mg per day . Just will see
I've used a few pharmacy grade products (including var) and they were no different than a good ugl.
But maybe just my fortunate luck?
bigurielGood example of how just because someone's big and ripped, hell even a pro, doesn't mean they know fuck all of what they're talking about.
Plenty of lab tests around of UGL anavar with real oxandrolone in it, I've even seen some properly dosed at 50mg per tab.
But if that's the only way he can live with himself after pissing away 1000$ for a cycle, when a UGL would have cost him 1/3 of that, then whatever helps him sleep at night...
Also I just noticed this topic is really old lol