posted Sun, 07/16/2017 - 09:14
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Which AI should I run in your opinion?
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Haven't started yet, still in the researching stage.
The first cycle in going to run will be an 8 week Test only @ 300mg/week. Think of it as testing the waters.
The questions I have is with that cycle are, is arimidex fine, letro too much, etc.
So many different opinions and protocols, I'd like to see what the majority thinks.
Thank you.
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I would choose AROMASIN or ARIMIDEX for most,,,I like LETROZOLE myself but too strong for some people.
BatmannWaste of testosterone and cycle at 300mg per week first and foremost ! Test at 600mg per week minimum to achieve desired results of a typical "cycle" . As far as an Ai , have one on hand , first hand experience I didn't neee one on test only cycle but I did have it on hand just incase . 6 weeks in with blood work to monitor
Dude, what are you doing? The guy is 5'9 @ 177, clearly hasn't done enough research and said his diet is hit and miss, and you're telling him to use 600mg test per week minimum?
First of all, the guy shouldn't be running anything yet, he has more work/research to do. And second of all if you NEED 600 minimum to get any benefit from test you're doing something wrong unless you're way deep in the game. I've never gone over 535 and I've done well for me. Guys have done great on 400... 300 would still be about 3x what his body is most likely naturally producing (assuming the average of about the equivelent of 10-15mg/day). I personally wouldn't run a test only cycle at 300, but that doesn't mean to tell this guy to run 600. We shouldn't be telling him to run any mg amount right now. The only good thing you said in there was to get blood work.
You're clearly a big dude judging by the pic you put up in your profile, and what's working for you is working for you, but -1 for that advice right now.
All i will say is what I do and has worked for me every time. I run 10mg Nolvadex ED during my whole cycle. With the nolvadex the estrogen will not be able to attach to the receptors that cause gyno. Some people say it hinders gains. I'm my experience it is I do not gain as much water weight. I have been running cycles on and off for 5 years, never burned myself out, my natural hormones are always fine when I am "off" Of course I still do a PCT regimen, but i believe the question here is for during a cycle. Correct me if I'm wrong. And again, just stating what works for me, im not here to tell you what to do.
Yeah I'm cycle. And that's the idea of the post, see what all the opinions are. Most people seem to think their way is the only way. Im not close to doing a cycle yet but id rather have a good working knowledge now and build on than to try to do it later.
"My diet is hit and miss lately"
FAIL
Again why I'm holding off on doing anything. Listening to everyone and getting my diet and training better. But I don't think it's ever to early to try to learn and plan.
Age: 26
Height: 5'9
Weight: 170lbs
These stats correct ?
Yes but I'm not going to start anything till I get other things in order. My diet is hit and miss lately. I am going to wait till I get closer to a clean 185.
26 usually means under 25 but I'll give you the benifit of the doubt
At that dose you likely won't even need Al ideally you base it off bloods but you can also experiment and see what works like Brooklyn said.
Only two compounds I see you needing would be adex and nolvadex because in my opinion letro is useless but that's just me.. nolvadex imo is the best gyno control you can buy. *plus pct of course
Most adex at that dose you might need is .25mg twice a week dosed day after your shot when your levels are at a peak.
Unfortunately you're going to have to experiment a bit to find which works best for you. We're all different. No one here has the answers.
When I id first cycle of test I had aromasin, arimidex and letro just in case. Which fortunately was a good thing because I did not react well to the Aromasin but as soon as I switched to th a dex I felt like a million bucks and did so the rest of the cycle. Just do yourself a favor and get bloodwork. At this point going by how u feel may not work. A lot of the symptoms for hi or low e2 are the same. But at the end of the day all we can do is give our experience. Dont cheap out, if your gonna do it do it right and do every bit of research from every angle because that one thing you miss will be the one issue that comes up. Make everything count. Good luck!
Great response brother jay!
Thanks bro I appreciate that!!
Personally at that dose an AI wouldn't be necessary but everyone aromatises differently. Always keep on hand just incase e2 gets a little high mate better to be safe than sorry when it comes to e2. But I feel if you start taking the AI at 300mg a week you will totally crash your e2 especially if you start the AI to early before the test has built up. Also week 8 is around the time I feel that my test levels are at the peak and start to feel the real benefits in terms of strength and size.
first...do bloods!
I've seen some say an AI is not needed. I don't like the idea of not having one ready. I get blood work a month from now. What would be a warning sign?
high E2 level is a sign.
You can store a pack of Arimidex preventive.