I don't know why met doesn't get more love. You see all these whackos running T3/clen stacks to lose a little fat and all that combo does is burn up muscle tissue along with it and can do some serious long term damage to your pituitary. Some strategic use of met would be much safer and more effective and spare the lbm.

I have used met for both bulking and cutting. I would say it can be an effective compound but I would't call it earth shattering and attempt to sell my first born just to get some. Depending on whether you are cutting or bulking will dictate on how you dose it and the timing of it. First off, I would like to throw out that that those of you who are doing all of this long-term GH stuff should proabably be running short cycles of this stuff every once in a while. Why is that? Well, we all know that GH use, especially long term use, will cause insulin resistance. To combat this, it is pretty easy and safe to run say a 4-6 wk course of met to help reset your insulin sensitivity. IGF is another way to reset insulin sensitivity by the way also.

Now as for bulking with stuff, it can definitely provide some advantages. One of those prime advantages again is to reset your insulin sensitivity. One of the problems with eating a cal surplus is that eventually your insulin sensitivity will take a dive and then basically all those cals start turning into love handles instead of muscle. When that happens, it is time for an insulin reset. Run a four wk course of met or do a mini cut and insulin problem solved. As far as doses of this stuff, about a 1000mg/d is all I used when bulking. You want to take it with your largest carb containing meals. The rule of thumb that I have seen is about 100g of carbs for every 500mg of met. This is pretty much what I followed. I would take my 500mg dose (or split an 850mg pill) and take with my stack of pancakes and syrup for breakfast. Your muscles will blow up after this also, since it shuttles all those carbs into your muscles. Then I would take my other dose with another high carb meal, usually my post-WO meal. I never ran it for more than 4wks at a time and basically took just as much time off before running another course of it. One thing to note is that it can kill your appetite and be sure to have a bathroom nearby until your gut gets used to it.

Now when cutting, I pretty much use it for the same purpose, to reset insulin sensitivity, to keep the fat burning process accelerated while cutting. This time I dose it different than when bulking. I pretty much dose it evenly throughout the day. 3 doses of 450mg seemed to do the trick. Usually something like breakfast, lunch and post-workout. Goal is to keep a steady supply in your system. Also, if you are one of these ketogenic fools, this compound can get you over that hump and into ketosis alot faster.

Bottom line is it is a pretty versatile compound that can keep the fat off during a bulk and partition more nutrients into lbm and it can accelerate the fat loss during a cut. Not sure why more people don't use it though.

I ran it all of last summer. I did lean up a little more than maybe I otherwise would have, but I also seemed to be much more heat sensitive as well. Lots of heat-stroke headaches last summer. Then when it came time to come off is when the fun really starts.

I normally have had an iron gut, well after metformin for several months I suffered frequent acid reflux and all that crap. Nothing like waking up just as you get a mouthful of stomach acid to choke on. It did get better again but I still occasionally get reflux where I never had had it before the metformin.

I agree...I've seen some old posts on it too! Makwa has some awesome info on it, somewhere.

Some of the info in your post, makes me want to incorporate it into my next cycle of test only, especially if it helps with lipids and insulin sensitivity.

500mg is the dose, but I wonder if 250mg, or less, could be therapeutic?