posted Sat, 03/12/2016 - 14:40
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Sust and decca good or bad
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I've been thinking about future cycles and im about to try npp and if I like it then im thinking about running actual decca. I was thinking which type of test would I run it with and I thought that sustanon original version 250mgs 3x a wk. I have used sust like this once before and the reason im thinking sust and decca would go good together is that they both have a deconate ester in them. I figured that the decca and test deconate would last about the same time before leaving the body and I thought that this might help with recovery from decca. I would add hcg to help also with recovery. Does anyone have experience with this type of cycle or any ideas about it being good or bad I would really like to hear opinions on this.
Thanks guys
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stunnerhrCurrently running that cycle and love it.
bigmurphIm thinking of just running decca less pins and I won't have to kick start my cycle can just run my pharma test e
Tried and proven! One can get fancy with the compounds...there is no way around it with just these 2...eat, lift, eat, grow, eat, lift, eat, grow...exactly in that order haha
bigmurphLift eat 8 meals lift again
Food is the best compound i will always agree with that
8 meals! The ultimate stack! I like your style!
bigmurphThey don't call me big for nothing
I prefer deca over NPP, only used deca once but it was amazing, tried NPP but it didnt blow me up like deca did but did wonders for my joints as did deca
I only like sust to kick off a cycle, much like using an oral...but I hate pinning.
I'll keep it simple brother...sustanon with decca...good. Imo the best mass producing injectables one can use...
Ill 3rd that brothers
I'd second that.
Double knuckles to both!
bigmurphIm going to try npp because im worried about the recovery from the decca. Im really looking for a faster recovery. But I do imagine sust and decca would be an amazing bulk.
In my experience, I recover faster with NPP than Deca. I prefer Test E with Deca and Sust with NPP, mainly cause of pinning. They are both a great bulk and strength. I run Test around 2x the Nandrolone and as you know a AI is mandatory. If you need to be tested for some reason npp is gone a good bit faster than Deca also.
I bet you will have a successfull cycle brother. The verdict on npp from what I've read is it is a hellofa builder! Lift on bigmurph!
bigmurphThanks brother i really appreciate that I just don't want to come off of this cycle and end up being on trt after it because I couldn't recover from the nor19
Will see though im going to run the npp i need the collagen synthesis that it provides
I hear ya...better safe than sorry although I believe you would be fine coming off with proper pct.
Im running a tiny therapuetic dose of deca right now for the old shoulders. Not a high enough mg to totally mask the discomfort but just enough to get a bit of heavy chest work in here and there. Let us know how the npp treats ya brother...
bigmurphIm going to run the npp at 100mgs eod 8-10wks depending on how it works for me and how I feel running it. I have my hcg ready to help will run 250iu -500iu a wk for the last 8wks up to pct also my cycle will be 12-14wks of test prop and test e. I will run a clomiphene and Nolvadex pct for 5wks one wk longer than I normally do to try to help with recovery. Will see i will be posting a cycle log.
Thanks brothers
Totally agree, but after running npp many times and deca a few im gonna have to say sust npp is the best of the best. Just need a prop kick wth the npp. Deca just has to much dead time, waiting 6 weeks for it to finally peak especailly when i only like to stay on for 8-12 weeks max. Those first 8 weeks are incredibly important, most of ones gains are made during that time, in my experience and alot of others ive talked to so that 6 weeks of deadtime with the deca just isnt optimal. For others it is. Me i like to get in, get my levels up quick, do my thing and get off.
I've never tried npp. I imagine I'd have alot of fun with it! In this stage of my life though I just stick to what I know.
I'm trt so no rush for me concerning getting in...getting blood levels peaked...then getting off. However if I was able to cycle completely off that would be the optimal mindset. I totally agree!
I hear ya, im the same way. thats why i stick to npp, Ive ran it plenty of times, its perdictable, awesome mass builder. When you start cycling you have to find what works for you. And for me thats some form of test with npp for adding mass. Once i find something that works I keep it. Ive tried other things, and ive had shit cycles because the compound just didnt agree with me, bad sides, loss of appetite etc. So for building muscle ill stick to either just sust, or sust and npp. They get the job done. I ran deca last fall and really hated it, 6+ weeks to finally feel it kick, with npp its like 10-14 days max. The only issue is finding good npp is difficult, finding good deca aint hard at all, its one of if not the most popular compounds ever made. So that sucks about npp but I got a good source luckily.
bigmurphGame what's good i picked up npp and decca so now its just deciding which to run and how much im going to pm you hopefully you have some time I know you're busy I need to run some ideas by you brother
I always used test e or c just to reduce the number of pins per week but it doesn't really matter in my opinion. Test is test, the only advantage would be that you don't have to run test longer than deca. You could finish both at the same time.
bigmurphThats kinda what I was getting at but I thought maybe it would help with the amount of time of time it takes to recover but I guess not. Im really looking for a way to speed up recovery from decca I guess there isn't a way
the two decanoate esters wont HELP with recovery, but they will take the same time to clear at least. long ester 19nors are hard to recover from in general. adding the sust wont hurt your recovery, but it wont help like you mentioned lol.
bigmurphSo its a no go I really thought it might help im just going to stay away from decca im adding npp to my up coming cycle but I guess that is as far as I will take it with the nor 19 family of compounds
Npp will shut you down just as much as deca.
bigmurphThis is the fact that im coming to realize is that npp will be only a little less not as much as I hoped and thought in the beginning
Eh, pretty damn close, but ester length has some effect on shutdown, the longer esters will shut one down harder then shorts. For whatever reason testosterone deconate will shut one down harder then test prop. The science is in one of my articles in my profile its been so long i cant remember.
Ive read a few things and it's been mixed. The ones I saw, were not a big difference between them and shut down. Short or long, the length of time on them has a greater impact. Just don't want people thinking that "I can run NPP and not have a hard shut down like deca." It's most likely going to be tough either way.
Very interesting