-3 Looking for a good tren first cycle
Ok so I'm looking to do my second cycle and first cycle of tren
So here's the first cycle I did probably a little over a yr ago
Sus 250 wk1 - 4 3cc per wk
Tested 250 wk4-12 3cc per week
Deca 200 wk1-12 1.5c per wk
Win 20mg tabs e.d Wk 8-12
Pct
Hcg wk13-18 250iu e.o.d
Clomid50, 50 , 20, 20, 20, 20
Nova 20mg e.o.d
Results
Before
Weight 160
Bench 185 5x5 (I don't max hurts joints)
Dead lift 225 3x10
Squat 225 3x10ish
Last wk before winny (wk10ish)
Weight 208
Bench 295 5x5
Deadline 355 5x5
Squat 355 5x5
After winning
Weight 190
Bench 285 5x5
Deadlift 325 5x5
Squat 325 3x10
After Pct
Weight 180
Bench 265 5x5
Deadlift 315 3x10
Squat 315 3x10
OK so that was my first cycle, awesome result's very happy however I would like to stay above 200 lbs this time after cycle and I did run into a big problem on this cycle however I think it was the Deca but what's up opinion.the problem I had was acne , all over my back and I never had back acne prior to cycle , so I'd like to avoid breaking out if possible lol . I also have antibiotic prescription for it now and has cleared up pretty good but now I have a bunch of spots :( anyways this is what I want do next cycle so opinion are greatly appreciated and any add or remove suggestions. Also keep in mind I want to do this cycle as safe as possible.
New idea for cycle
Tren a 75mg e.o.d wk1 to wk14
Sus 500mg wk 1 to wk3
Test e 500 a wk4-16was
(Possibly dbol 500mg e.d wk1- 8,opinions please)
Hcg 250iu e.o.d wk4-wk20
Nova 20mg e.o.d wk2 wk20
(Possibly winny many 20mg e.o d wk 12-16?opinions please, remember I want to gain weight but not fat, got a 6pack still Wana see it but don't want no fat on me either, I like having a little meat on me lol)
Pct
Clomid 50 50 20 20 20
Hcg and nova will be doing whole time and 4wks after wk16 (end of cycle)
Right now my weight is 170 I Wana hit 200 lbs and stay there all suggestions greatly appreciated thank you guys
also brand i used was http://centrinolab.org/
and plan on using again
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I know this lad hasn't been on eroids for six months, but I'm still curious as hell. @Billyyillib, did you ever do your cycle? If yes, what did your blood work look like before, during and after? What were your results, both in the gym, and in life in general?
Whatever the case, lad, I hope you're safe, smarter than you were six months ago, and willing to be an advocate for intelligent AAS use going forward.
He was breastfeeding Ed last I checked... Ed is into all these weird fucking fantasies...
Dropped me. I love this place. +1 for making me snort out loud, you bastard.
Any time sugar tits.
No homo.
Guys before anyone judge me . I DID NOT give any cycle advice for this boy . If you read the end of his post he wrote his cycle . And when I said it's a nice plan . I said from away I disagree because it's stupid cycle . That's it and thank you vhman to realize that I didn't give an advise because the mod he thought I give the whole cycle . I even never tried tren to give an advice for a boy like the one he posted this post . And by the way yesterday when I wrote this I had a fever so I didn't made it clear .
I can see what you did, think it's come across a bit misunderstood with language and the "tongue in cheek" approach you took. If you read back through, it's a little unclear and could be taken the wrong way. Be more direct. This kid is underage, he's a stick and he's got a piss poor attitude. Tell it how it is then there's no room for misinterpretation ;)
Sorry to do this cat, I hate to have to correct you, the proper terminology is- mouth on a stick..... And for better affect put " get too fuck" in front of it, mouth on a twig I also accept.
Lol - glad you chimed in. It has much more importance when you do it ;)
I'm telling you bro these dudes are getting lazy now days I was 170 natural benching 225 12 to 15 reps by the time I hit 185 I was pressing the 125 on incline bench 8 to 10 reps... this shit is pathetic right here! I warm up with heavier than 185. I mean I only got 30 pounds on the kid but that's Alot lmao then again he's 5 foot 10 he's got 2 inches on me he should be 200 to 210 natty for sure!
Absolutely. Times are different now, maybe to the extent where my "build a base first" approach is becoming obsolete as its too much hard work.
I used to train in a very famous body builders gym in my early to mid twenties. I must have been 23, 24 and plucked up the courage to ask the gym dealer to sell me gear. His response? "Can you bench 3 plates a side, (140kg), I said "2 1/2". Get replies "fk off and talk to me when you can then".....
That's a good answer! Most of the time I tell people not even to do it. And they look at me like a hypocrite like "why can you do it but not us" type of look my answer is always the same... "I wish I never did it to begin with" I strated to young as well but I was already way past this kids currents stats only problem is I'm al sorts of fucked up now.... they will learn when they're 25 to 26 and their dick goes soft mid stroke and their old lady is looking at them like they're pathetic.... it's not a good feeling :/
New idea for cycle
Tren a 75mg e.o.d wk1 to wk14
Sus 500mg wk 1 to wk3
Test e 500 a wk4-16was
(Possibly dbol 500mg e.d wk1- 8,opinions please)
Hcg 250iu e.o.d wk4-wk20
Nova 20mg e.o.d wk2 wk20
(Possibly winny many 20mg
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This is a nice plan . I want two things from you as a brother . Don't give advice for a cycles for anyone until you learn good . Second the guys wrote the right for you . If you are going to do what you wrote . Be a man and responsible for your choices and God help you later . Deal ?
Did you read the thread? The OP is 22.
Yes sir
This why I told him that he got the right answer from the guys . But these kinds of guys do you think he will listen to anyone . You know and me too he will not . In this case you have to scare him maybe he will stop his plan . I didn't support him when I said nice plan . Read what I wrote after this sentence please . I know the rules very good when it comes to kids like him . This why I told him be responsible for your choices and God help you . When I said nice plan I said it in away that I disagree about his plan .
The rules are no advice to those under 25, regardless if you agree with it or not.
Ok now I understand why you thought I give him an advice . The plan you saw in my text first time it's copy past from his post . Read good . I don't know how to do copy past . So I copy it in normal text and past in my post . And if you look good there and many question marks after his plan . So anyway just want someone read good . Thanks for -1 lol
Your correct on why I thought you'd given advice, but you're wrong that I gave you a thumb down. I didn't. I'd tell you if I did. Looks like others had the same impression. I guess the lesson would be to make sure you're clear when you're responding to a post. I'll fix the -1 for you.
You gave him a whole cycle. That-1 was a warmup.
Darth pale
I sent you FR . I have one question please .
Sir I did not this what he wrote . I did copy and past for his cycle . If you read the end of his post he wrote this . I copy and past it this the only thing I did .
It isn't the end of the world, next time just chose your words a bit more carefully is all.
Thank you sir that you understand my declarations .
Lol . But I didn't give any advice sir . Read my text again .
You are a classic example of what inspired this thread:
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/i-want-to-run-a-...
Don't hear what you want so you throw your toys out of the pram.
5' 10" 174 lbs.? U got some muscle wasting disease or something? Muscle doesn't come in a bottle my young friend. For 99% of us, it's years of gut wrenching work day in day out and meal prep over and over and over again. Dang, bro, I use dumbbells lying on my back for chest work each one of them weighing more than your whole body. U got some big ones posting on here looking for roid advice in your condition. You're a paper weight. Tren ain't gonna change nothing. You need to learn how to lift and eat first.
This shit is crazy on here I used to post some crazy ideas but this is intense. Unfortunately I didn't use eroids when I started doing this shit I was 19 years old almost running anadrol and sust didn't know what I was doing and I fucked myself up before I even got atarted. This kid has eroids at his fingertips and he won't use a shred of this advice given to him... it's just sad. It's one thing to not be informed properly and be doing shit but to have proper advice and information and to still say fuck it is just wild man!! These damn kids are crazy (I only got 4 years on this guy and I'm calling him a kid) lol I wouldn't touch tren if someone bought the shit for me lmao I played with the idea but shut it down real fast
RustyhookerYour boat is sunk and ya dont even know it. Truth is you'll be back twice broken
well apparently im to young to get advice so i guess ill just do w.e i find online that seam best and check with doc thanks for nothing
People aren't going to give you what you want to hear. Your going to do it anyways, if your looking for a protocol its easy to find on the internet but here at eroids we go by a certain way and look out for people. No ones going to say SURE, bump up that tren to 125 a day and for 20 weeks, and blah blah blah. Do you even know how bad you will be shut down after than run on tren? you took almost 5 compounds on your first cycle and your not even above 200 lbs? you need to learn how to eat man (which is the easy part). That tren will shut you down so bad you better say bye bye to fucking girls cause your going to be all fucked up. Adding compounds isn't going to do shit for you, its not like you add tren and then all of a sudden your going to obtain a physique of a god. No, you wont. In fact, your going to be looking like a joke because your BP is going to be through the roof, your going to be sweating at all times, and your sleeping patterns are going to be fucked. Is it worth it? No. Less is more. except when it comes to food. Your going to do this shit anyways, my only advice to you is..be smart, and caber is your best friend on tren (from experience, and dont ask me about dosing) do your research! don't ask for anyones opinion if your just trying to hear your own. PEACE.
i have done research and thats what ive come up with. ive tried eat tons , i ate 4200 cal a day with all essentials and still i can never get pass 180 and hold the weight , if i was getting progress naturally i wouldnt result to this, however im not, and i do want advice just not people telling im dumb or not to take just that if i was to take this is the safes way BALH BALH BALH. if i want i shouldn't do this or dont do this ill go to the doc, but even he is reasonable enough to say if you going to take this here antibiotics for this and so on. he knows what im doing and doesn't agree but still tells me if i were not to listen id do this ....
Just do what you have to do bro. Like I said just be smart. I was there at your age, and yes I was using AAS. I should of waited longer, but whats done is done. Yeah the doctor cant force you to do anything all he can do is make sure he trys his best to help you not kill yourself. But he doesn't have any first hand experience with these compounds does he? he can only go by text book. What im saying is the truth bro, tren is nasty and not for beginners. Why jump the gun so quick? its like anything in life, start small..progress into the bigger compounds as time and experience goes on. Why go to the baddest bitch in the beginning and risking your future because of it? for some gains? if shit goes downhill for you and the damages are permanent you can look back and say what? for the gains..Be safe with this shit man. You have just started and thats solid you gained that much weight on your first cycle, but why change it up? why so drastically? Do you need such a crazy physique you would jeopardize your future? this is my last post hope it gets something into you. This does nothing for me to take my time and write this but if I could help you id love too. Your not dumb bro, never called you that. Just do more research and really think about it. Good luck man.
ok well let me ask you this i want something stronger than first cycle what should i do next then for best results and to keep more of it
If sust test e and deca was not strong enough for you youre not meant for this sport. Seriously if you cant grow on that you dont have the genetics, i think john meadows was the one who said it. Thats the most classic cycle of all time, Its what most of us who have ran a decent amount of cycles run every winter time, Im running it right now and its plenty strong enough. Thats what the majority of pro bodybuilders run every offseason, its a pure mass builder. Nothing will put size on you like test and deca.
The reason it wasnt strong enough, or however you put it and you didnt make the desired gains is because your diet fucking blows and you dont know how to train. I mean come the fuck on, test deca and sust in a first cycle and your 174lbs and you started at 160, thats pathetic. My first cycle was what everyone suggests you run, 500mgs of test for 12 weeks, and it put almost 30 fucking pounds on me and when the water dropped i was left with around 25 and held all of it. Wouldnt you love a cycle right now that could put 30lbs on you and bring you from skeleton status up to 204lbs? and Drop the water and end up at 200, thats your goal right to hold 200. Ya easily done with test. Im so sick of you beginners think test only is a weak cycle, With a good diet and hard training you can build a crazy physique with it and it alone. Heres what a few cycles of only testosterone did for a friend of mine, 10 week cycles mind you
https://www.eroids.com/sites/default/files/gearpic/10506/001.jpg
dont quote me, ole vike might chime in but he was probably 220 in this picture, sub 5-6% bodyfat dry as can be, in offseaon condition or just lean like youd like to look he be probably somewhere around 245-250 at 10-12% bf holding some water. Thats what test can do if you know how to eat and train.
Thats a message to all the noobs who are atleast 25 years old thinking i dont want to run a boring test only cycle cause its weak. I assure you its not weak. For op, youll have to hold off for atleast 2 more years before getting advice and my advice wlll be the same. Run test only and learn how your body reacts to just testosterone, its the base of all cycles.
This is all to true. I've ran Deca anadrol dbol etc in the past and I can still pack on 15 to 20 pounds with some good Ole test. Shit I'll use test prop for 8 weeks and pass 15 pounds! This dude wants his physique to come strait from a bottle and it doesn't work that way. Bet he could pin test prop 100 mg eod eat about 6500 cals a day and blow the fuck up! Lmao
RustyhookerNothing is stronger that big proper diet and volume type workout.
I would seriously rethink your so called research methods.
People here actually give a shit about others health and safety. This would be a good place to start researching the proper way.
i don't understand why someone is so quick to jump to im to new this or that im an idiot basically. i posted this to get correct guidance because i want good results that sick with doing everything i can to make sure my body is working right, why is it so hard to just get a response like i would do blah balh balh instead of saying basically im an idiot .... if i knew everything and was a pro at this i wouldn't be asking for help.will someone give me advice rather than criticize me please and thank you
jeese you guys act like steriods are something worthy of only people who have lift for their whole life.
when you go to a dealer ship and say i need a truck that can pull a lot of weight you don't ask how everthing works you just want a good truck that will pull weight some dam weight. i just want a good cycle with tren that will work and if im far off what i have correct me not criticize me please
im 23 170lb im guna do a cycle im just looking for guidance not you shouldnt do this or that or your dumb thanks
Crack on with "I'm guna do a cycle" then. Eroids doesn't give steroid advice to under 25's.
ok so if i don't get advice ill make sure to lie like bunch of ppl on here and say im 25 and make an account that says im 25 jeese this is so childish i just want fucking advice is that so much to ask fuck sorry i wana do a cycle the right way instead of the wrong way
sorry im wrong for asking for help
What part of "site policy no steroid advice to under 25's" don't you understand?
Irony at its best....
I'll respond to you in a more respectful manner than you have done. You shouldn't even be touching gear, you're just too immature to realise it. You weigh 170lbs and cant keep gains you made before using gear. You know why? Because you have no base built naturally and you can't maintain it with nutrition and training. That's as much of a reason as your age.
You got an acne problem and you wanna run trenbolone? Probably the worst drug in the world for acne, the deca is most likely not what caused your acne last cycle, its purely anabolic, im more acne prone then anyone youll ever meet and deca never gives me issues, the reason you got acne is becusse you ran 750mgs of test ew with no form of estrogen control, so your estrogen was sky high and for many that results in horrible acne. And no nolva doesnt control estrogen.
Take a year, get a good diet, get yourself up to 190+ naturally, which is totally doable if not more, and then if your not happy with your physique think about a basic test cycle, with just test.
Too young, 5-10 and 170 after a big cycle, no base built and started running gear benching 185lbs.
You're joking of course?
DOUBLE FACEPALM!!
Check out that first cycle............... oh man i need to go lie down lmfaoooooooooooooo
Sust kicker?............ 14wks on tren
Forget the facepalm............. i just shoved my own head up my fkn arse ;/
Not sure who came up with the sust kicker SMH, for me sust kicks around week 6, when the deconate has reached peak plasma levels in the blood, not fucking week 1 as a kick starter lol, the amount of prop is tiny, nowhere near enough to feel anything. I kickstart my sust cycles with prop cause the sust takes so damn long to really kick.
Trollolol
Sad part is hes not even a troll, hes totally serious about running tren as his second cycle. talks of this mysterious drug burning fat off you while bulding crazy muscle at the same time, while eating like shit haha. Every young guy wants to run tren thinking its this wonder drug, well its not.
OP, youre still a beginner, this is a advanced drug, your next cycle should be similar to your first, you should have ran test e or c at 500mgs ew for 10-12 weeks with proper pct, This time if your goal is to cut add some anavar the last 4-6 weeks of the cycle with proper liver protection and lipid protection and obviousy pct.
That's when it can be dangerous. Sad thing is, this guy will do whatever he wants regardless. I've seeing Many examples of this type of approach and we all know the end result.No one will stop him, but sometimes people have to learn from their mistakes.
ya, hes not gonna listen to us lol, thats a given. Hes gonna be so pissed off when halfway through the cycle his nipples start lactating like a pregnant bitch and he cant get his dick hard for months and months or posssibly forever if he gets the typical shutdown from tren but its multiplied due to damage to his delicate HPTA. This isnt gonna endd well at all. But he will learn the hard way.
You are only 22. Why such a heavy cycles? You shouldn't be using any ass until you are at least 25 and this is one of the rules on eroids, so sorry but you will not receive any feedback from anyone. Posting brands in general forum is also against the rules of this board.
Hey big....no ass til you are 25..lmao...good advice for most kids. I know u meant to say aas. Funny bro.