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You were told you are going to be partially disabled for the rest of your life?
I ask, because I was just told this myself. I had a major spinal surgery approximately 3 months ago, and the hopeful outcome was a full recovery, but that wasn't the likely result. Unfortunately, the likely has happened, and I am going to be partially disabled now for the rest of my days. I am 32 years old, and now can no longer do my job, and lifting anything other than therapy level weights is "not likely". I am trying to stay upbeat because I do still have a great family, good friends, and a world of people who are very supportive. My job has other roles that I can be placed in, so I will survive the financial loss, but the mental loss is something I'm having a hard time swallowing.
After surgery I started by adding .5cc (125mg) of deca to my 150mg of cyp a week, and so far my build is still in tact. I look big, I still eat right, but I can't lift, and that's the hardest part for me. I just picked up some HGH to try and help my recovery, but I don't know how long I can afford it at this point. I have enough for about 6 months at 2ius a day, so I am really hoping that it helps and possibly is enough to help me turn it around and heal a little more overall.
I ask you guys, my eroids brothers, who I value very dearly, for advice. I can't let this get the best of me, I need to be strong for my family as they depend on me to be their anchor. If you guys know of any other type of healing agents besides tb500 (which doesn't apply for me, because as far as my research can tell it's more for tears/joint repair), then I'm all ears. Thank you guys, just typing this here makes me feel a little better, because, without sounding too corny, I feel like you guys are a family of sorts to me.
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You are truly an inspiration. Don't lose hope never give up now a days there are many exercise equipment available online, while just browsing online I had an eye on this(http://www.spinlife.com/Patterson-Medical-Adjustable-Height-Table-Exerci... ) you can check them out, I would be glab if I could help you. I hope it helps.
all I can say to this is, the best blessing come disguised! That has been my reality time and time again.
I don't think someone will take this easily if heard this news. Even some of them can stroke as well.
This is the most horrific story one can read! I went through a similar experience and am trying to come back after a 2 year layoff. I still have neurological issues form my back, but I'm a lot older than you. I think it must be worse for you as being so young makes it seem so unjust. I did have many years of enjoying this lifestyle.
I'm sending you an FR: If you tell me more about your surgery, and the medical details; I'll be glad to do some research at which I am good. I'm not promising anything; just to look into it and see what I can find.
Keep fighting!
Update:
14 months have passed, and this was by far the hardest thing I've gone through, but in a way it was the best thing. I became depressed after this post was made and was taking pain killers every day (they were prescribed). The PK didn't help at all, they just added to my funk. I had given up mentally.
Around May I got a promotion at work and it picked up my spirits. I channeled that energy into focusing on recovery. I got a road bike and started riding, stretching morning noon and night, and lifting light weights (under Dr guidelines). By June I called my Dr and had him shut off my refills for the PK.
By September I was doing great, and had exceeded the Dr's projection for max recovery. I started a very low dose prop only cycle right around the beginning of October, and by mid December I felt amazing.
Currently I'm hovering around 250. I've never been this heavy and I have alot of work ahead of me, but I have come a VERY long way, and am glad to be back. I haven't felt truly like myself in nearly 2 years, and I am proof that hard work pays off.
You're an inspiration, brother. Keep fighting and kicking ass.
Glad to here you are doing well! Keep doing what ever you can. Stay strong brother.
Happy to hear that, Congrats brother. Keep working hard.
Real fighters overcome adversary. I am happy for you.
You won't know unless you try.
I had a broken neck (C1 level) in a head on car accident. I got out of the car and was directing traffic when the cops finally arrived. I could have stayed in the vehicle and risk it exploding or I could get out and on with my life.
I was diagnosed with heart failure. My heart was enlarged with an ejection fraction near 25%. I understood I could drop dead at any moment. I decided I would be happy with any time I had left, so I started smoking pot in the evenings after boxing. The doctors said I was doing something called walking through which allowed me to train even though my heart was fucked. After 3 months of smoking and laughing watching wins and fails on YouTube with my family, my heart had returned to normal. Three years later, and my ejection fraction is 72%. My doctors said after I was better that they expected me to die or at minimum require a heart transplant. To my left is death, and in my heart, life. Plain and simple, I refused to die. As long as you can feel than you have a reason to live. BTW, dogs and I see eye to eye.
Well shit, you should get up off of your knees... Or you and Rusty have more in common than you think (short joke)
Nothing wrong with doggie style. Good joke, it burned just right.
Does anyone know why AWAGZ got a BAN? He was a very positive voice here on eroids for me in my own educational journey. I wish him the absolute best in his recovery, as well as his life long adventures. Major bummer seeing the "BAN" tag on his account. Me no likey. Dang dang dang.
Hey gang, I gotta bump this thread, cuz it will indeed help other men here on eroids who've had to endure this same situation.
As of now, January 2017, it's good to see AWAGZ without a ban tag, and rocking & rolling. Brother, fill us in on your adventures when you get a moment. I simply assume you've been through some shit. Rooting for you, big time. -ZeusM
keep positive how ever that maybe it could all change around and you then will find yourself on the up again. i do feel for you it must be horrible but never give up ever and i mean ever keep fighting and that goes for everything in life that you want and believe in. anything is possible you have a great family that supports you through this thats a structure you need to build on, it maybe baby steps now but in the near future it could well be giant leaps. you will get back there brother it may take time but everything in life does if its worth it in the end . i wish you all the luck and hope for your recovery
I want to thank everyone who contributed to this thread. You all have made me smile, and given me a much needed boost in moral. There are so many good posts on here, and so much helpful info. I appreciate all the kind words guys, it truely means alot to me.
I am going to stick to the Drs. Guidelines and recommendations and try not to over do it. There's always the temptation to push harder, but Ill have to mentally pull the reigns in a bit. I'll keep my diet clean, go for my daily walks and just remember to stick to the healthy lifestyle I normally lead. I will also keep my mind from "accepting" this as my fate.
This is a very hard thing to go through. I will admit, the day I heard this latest diagnosis, I became extremely depressed and closed myself off from everyone, my wife included. I think I needed to just be in my thoughts for a bit, but I am feeling alot better now. One thing that really helps, aside from my wife and the kids is actually spending time with my dogs. I got my kids 2 puppies this year, both pit mixes, and they are my therapy dogs. Everyone deals with things in their own ways, and for me it's taking the pups out to the local dog park, or for a walk around the block (that's as far as I can get, for now). I actually have to say, I have a lot of fun with them and I am glad I found a good "escape".
I'm going to keep busting my hump, both physically and mentally, to strive towards what I want to accomplish, not what I've been told I must deal with. Thanks again to all you guys on here for being there for me, it's a huge boost, seriously!
An active body clears the mind! Good to hear you are staying in motion moving forward! Knuckles brother!
Always moving forward, no matter how hard that may be. That's always been kind of my motto, never worry about the past just move towards the future
TARANISBest of luck buddy, dogs are good listners.
You can tell your dog's exactly what's on your mind,things you would not tell your nearest and dearest, they won't judge you and will always keep your secrets.
If I ever see you not logging in here for a period ,I'll hunt you down, lol.
I'll be checking on you regularly.
T
Haha thanks T don't worry, I'll be on regularly. Yea these dogs are great man, really a life saver cuz I can bond with them in total silence, and I know they will never leave my side.
Hit by car at 19. Told I would never be able to lift anything heavy. Started powerlifting. Partially tore ligaments off spine, again never lift anything heavy. Ran test and Deca, back in gym 6 months later. However I've been lucky, as mine is damage as not as serious (not degenerative). Hgh would be my choice as well. In a short while I'll be doing it myself as a series of muscle injuries have caught up with me.
If it was just waist down I'd go all out to find what sport I can do from a wheelchair. Medical science moves so quickly. Christopher Reeve was totally paralysed and told he would never move again "In 2000, Reeve gained the ability to move his index finger, and a specialized workout regimen made his legs and arms stronger. Repeated electrical stimulation of the muscles gave him sporadic sensation in other parts of his body."
Don't give up, if you struggle, succeed or fail, write it down or blog it. Put it on here. You may inspire 1 person only but that will be a fantastic achievement in itself.
I had times where I had to take painkillers all day and for months had to be helped into the car, couldn't sit at work, had to stand as put pressure on my lower back too much.
Please don't just go by what I say here, plenty of positive advice, but doctors do not want you to come back. They don't want other injuries to treat. They give antibiotics for viruses for God's sake to get you out of there. My mother had been on painkillers for several disc issues for over 30 years before advised to do exercise. Now finally she doesn't spend 1 week a month lying on the floor crying in pain. She keeps moving.
You already said you feel you'll be back to the gym, just not at the level before. You already have the right attitude there. Who gives a shit if it's 20kg or 200kg unless you're competing. Compete with yourself.
All the best. God bless bro. Keep checking with docs for new answers, things do change and they won't advertise it!
I wish you the best. Always remember "you're not defeated until you accept that fate."
Read my story. I was in the same exact situation at one point. I refused to be "disabled". I read everything I could get my hands on that applied to healing and improving my health. I was wheel chair bound at one point. My wife had to help me eat. I couldn't even hold a pencil to write. I had several major surgeries, brain and spinal. Was told all the things I couldn't do ever again. I busted my ass, and did all those things and even went on to fight MMA for several years. So my best advice is start reading and researching everything you can about peptides, AAS, sarms, diet, non traditional medicine and treatments that relates to your healing.
That's really inspiring man, I think I'm just down because it's SO fresh in my mind. I haven't absorbed all this yet, and I am not a quitter. I'm just going to keep doing my thing, go to PT and keep fighting. I won't say I'm done til I'm dead.
AnonSorry to hear this man it can happen to any of us and I fear it myself I have been lucky and I wish that you were as lucky... I hope you can find a way to beat the odds..... I agree with Darth
Oh I almost forgot.... My wife wrecked her mustang... Her knees went into the dash and they told her after knee surgery that she would never walk right again.... She's been walking for many years now ..... And jogging when she wants...... And running when my test doses are high
Lmao running when my test doses are high. It's all in my head at this point I think. I went to one of the top rated spinal surgeons in the country (fortunate to be in a highly advanced medical region), and he just told me when I posted this that it doesn't look good thus far. He didn't say it was over for me, just that I am likely not bouncing back fully like we had hoped. I still have 6 months of PT til I reach the point which he said I'd recovered IF I did recover, but I am pretty far from where he hoped I'd be. It's mentally trying, but I'm gonna keep doing everything I can. Thanks for the words man.
remember most doctors are NOT going to give you the optimistic side of the story ...
May not mean much from me but what ever the outcome I wish you and your family the best
Any words are more than meaningful. I appreciate it man, this community is a place where I've learned alot, especially respect, and we all seem to have it in spades around here.
I don't have much of answer for you bro other than to keep pushing the boundaries of what they have told you you can do. It may sound crazy but I would also look into alternative treatments, hell, meditate and learn healing techniques, anything and everything brother. Keep digging deep within you.
Thanks Darth, I am trying to keep pushing forward, despite getting some setbacks. I'm open to exploring all options, so I will keep an open mind as I progress
LUCK IS WHEN PREPARATION MEETS OPPORTUNITY.
@awagz, it's time to be lucky.
You're prepared (mentally, educationally, and emotionally).
The opportunity in front of you is to recover, whether it be partially, or completely from the ground up.
One day at a time, one deep breath at a time, one physical therapy session at a time, one good nights sleep at a time, and one positive comment from your family at a time, not to mention the good mojo from your brothers and sisters on this site.
You're not alone. None of us are. We take care of each other cuz no one takes care of us but us.
Im not in your shoes but i will tell ya. I broke both ankles at the same time, couldnt walk,
Couldnt use crutches. I lost my mind when i couldnt workout.. Then one day when my girl was bringing me my dinner i sat there and cried.. Just knowing i had my family, by my side in that moment of need. It has helped me realize how lucky i am to have a family. Just remmeber what you do have and also remmeber that there are guys who are worse off. Keep your head up Man. You got this !!!! You can and will have a great life. Smile everyday that you have your family cause some guys dont.
I hope all the best for ya.
Hitman187sorry i dont have any remedies or a cure to help out your situation. just stay positive and keep on fighting, dont just sit on the sideline and let this defeat you. if there's a will there's a way, and as long as you continue to fight there will always be a chance you can over come this obstacle. best of luck to you bro.
Stay positive as best you can bro, the drs don't know everything. Listen to your body it will tell you what's going to far. Just heal as much as you can. As said below look at how many people were told they'd never walk again and with lots of grit and therapy walk unassisted or even run marathons. Drs don't know everything my wife was in a lot of pain in her abodomen did a cat scan/ultrasound and said her appendix needs to come out now. They took it out and said it looked fine and most likely just had a kidney infection. So they don't know everything. I feel they did that because insurance would pay all of it. Stick with resistance until your more healed and go from there. And you still have your family, smoking hot wife and many things to be positive for. In my routines now I don't do squats to not compress my spine so much. And if I do deads its light weight for multiple reps depends how I feel only occasionally do I go full throttle at a meet and I feel it for a few days. I have endplate damage on two vertabrae from the military and a aggravating knee at times. And your lucky you can still earn a living and help support your family. And your job is willing to work with you. My job if your out two months they replace you doesn't matter. You'll always be able to stay in shape
bigmurphThat's a tough situation but I believe that the strength of you your family and friends is going to be one of the best healing agents for you. It's going to be a slow process but every day you can and I believe you will get stronger and better because you have a purpose and a reason being your family. Good luck to you brother and you know that the guys on eroids are here to talk and listen and we are here to do whatever we can to help like you said you feel like the guy's here are family of sorts not of sorts eroids is a family a disfunctional one but a family.
Stay strong keep getting better I strongly believe you will
Hey big bro I agree with some folks on here, dr's are proven wrong erday! I think at this pointe your mental aspect of will and determination is what is gonna help you through this, the human body is more resilient than most of us think or give it credit for. Prayers to ya for a good recovery!
Keep your head up brother. One day at a time. Work towards small goals. They will keep forward progress. Focus on the moment. What can you do today that will help? Focus on staying positive. That is key. You can go far above and beyond the docs expectations if you work hard for it and stay patient. Don't give up on PT. It's going to be a long road. Insurance might give out on you but you have to fight for it. In healthcare we have to give patients bad news all the time. Even if there is hope for a full recovery we have to relay all potential outcomes. At this current moment in time maybe you can no longer do that job you used to do, but that doesn't mean you wont be able to again some day with the dedication I know you're capable of.
So many positive words below. Take it all in. This community is here for you. PM me anytime you want to talk.
If this were .me ,I would set out on a mission to prove the science wrong...how many times do I hear ,where a dr will tell someone they will never walk agion .or function a d the op comes up and beyond..
I'm sure either way you will adapt and over come ... Good luck
One day at a time. We are all here for you. Aspiring comments i have read in this post and thread.
You do what u need to do and what you can...if Epithalon and HGH and tb 500 and that other thing hump said...sounds like stem cells....if they help, then use them...and focus on the positive and succeed in ur short-term goals...
Vitamin k, vitamin b c e d, bcaas- calcium- test deca and hgh- best stack available. I recoverd from broken tibia, ankle, and shattered navicular in 8 weeks i was walking. I didnt use gh though. Vitamin k travels the protein- aminos to the bone its your best friend. Calories need too be atleast 2000 above normal- the injury will eat that much alone in the process. Good luck.
That's a bitter pill to have to swallow. I feel for you bro, I'd hate to be in this situation myself.
Time will tell, staying positive isn't going to be easy I'm sure. But who knows what the future will bring, in the following years to come you may of made enough of a recovery to get back to lifting at some sort of a level.
Wishing you my best, hope in time things change for the better.
I find that doctors make their best educated guesses based on the average man. The average man won't do what it takes to get his cholesterol down; subscribe a pill. The average man won't put in the hours of therapy needed; provide a wheelchair. Don't be average.
Personally I hate when someone tells me I can't do something, So I do what you're doing. I'll keep trying to prove them wrong.
This I agree with. The average man who has this procedure is between 40 and 45, overweight, and has spent years in therapy, avoiding inevitable surgery. I am 32, and in great shape, and spent just 7 months before I had mine done. I tried anything I could to avoid surgery, but when it became clear that I'd have no choice, I just went for it. My recovery started out ahead of the curve, then it slowed to "on pace", and now it fell back to "no progress" since my last visit. That's when he said it didn't look good, but I won't quit or accept that.
Keep a positive outlook. Life won't give you more than you can handle . Do the rehab, and then baby steps.
You might have to go for a different look... Lean swimmer type rather than body builder.
My gym has a lot of area dedicated to rehab/clients with disabilities and such. There is a guy who is in a wheelchair and swims , lifts, and looks great.
I don't know your situation , but I DO know YOU have the POWER to have a POSITIVE mental out look.
We all love the iron, but maybe you'll find splice in another physical endeavor.
I'm not a religious person , but I will send you my positive thoughts and vibes that you will make the most of what you can do. All the best to you
TARANISWhat is your injury exactly?,
I had a serious mc accident and other issues a few years back,I have a lesion in my L5, Which crushed my sciatic S1 nerve, and couldn't move for nearly a year, total nerve damage down my left leg,took years before my nerves started knitting back together,and still have relapses to this day if I make the wrong move ,on 4 different painkillers daily,and have to strap up heavily when training, if your injury is along those lines maybe I can help, some times I'm out the game for weeks at a time,
when this happened to me the first time I lost 50lbs of muscle got so depressed being crippled and in constant severe pain ,I thought my life was over,as fitness, training,weighlifting was my life,
I'll never be 100%, but I never gave up and even when I get a knock I'm straight back in there,
Don't give up, stay positive, don't take your surgeons word as gospel, keep a can do attitude, as its so easy to slip down that slope, the human body has a remarkable ability to heal itself, and giving it a little help with this or that can help wonders,
As I said I don't know the specifics of your injury, but keep the faith buddy
Stay safe
Edit, never caught the first two comments to the thread, two plates in spine,
If you have any column injury I.e nerve damage,maybe I can help.
Keep the chin up bud , as you said you have another family here to help and the posts here from myself and other members are straight from the heart.
Yea I have plates, screws and a couple of brackets all mixed in. Had a 4 level fusion and had the spinal canal widened. My nerves were damaged and my leg is still numb all the way to my toes on one side. I can't bend, twist, or lift anything over a few pounds. I also have arthritis, degenerative disc disease and spinal stenosis.
That being said, I feel like one day I'll be able to hit the gym again, but it won't be in the same capacity that it once was. As of now, the Dr said basically not to expect to be able to do any form of free weights, only resistance training for the forsee able future. I feel pretty confident I'll be able to clear that hurdle, but after my 3 month checkup he wasn't too pleased with how I've recovered so far. I'll be staying upbeat, and doing my best to beat their expectations.
TARANISStay positive mate, going out for din dins but I'll pm you some info of what has helped me greatly,with the nerve damage, b4 weekends out.
Stay safe
Nothing pertaining to what you can take. But keep an open dialect brother. Keep expressing your situation through talking. Dont shut down and bottle up. Keeping yourself open is an act of positivity! Try not to get locked in your own head. It gets dark there. We as men find it difficult to express when we are down as we feel it puts us in a defenseless state. Not so. What you've done is courageous. Sharing something pretty devastating in the fact your guard has been forced down. Rusty posted some really inspirational pictures below. Through adversity a man finds his brightest moments! You will overcome this adversity with the same vigorous determination that you had throwing the weights around! Keep your chin high! Positive thoughts and belief in them makes for a better healing environment physically! Knuckles brother!