posted Sat, 07/18/2015 - 13:23
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+ 4 DSIP Delta sleep inducing peptide got good news
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_sleep-inducing_peptide
I am about halfway through a 5 mg bottle and have some very good news to report.
1 this peptide stimulates LH. So I began using this peptide right when my pct was over. Pct work well, boys were full and libido was normal. Now that I'm using the DSIP my testis are almost abnormally full, elephant nuts lol. Also when I wake up I've notice morning wood is very rigid and can take anywhere from 5 minutes to 30 minutes for it to come down .
One thing that I can tell you this peptide will do is if your having a difficult pct or didn't recovery, I truly believe this peptide will be a game changer for you. There's not much info on dosing and what this peptide actually dose so PM me if you need a dosing protocol.
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hi every body|!
its 10 days Im using DSP (I decide to do it reading this post: thanks humpnpump!)
My sleep is getting better!
i suffer with cronic insomnia ,taking several ipno with few success: now this first 10 days with DSIP Im slleping better! Ill keep on and let's see in a month
ciao!
Any updates? I was actually researching this product for the first time online and this thread popped up. I'm also researching GnRH for PCT.
do you use BW to mix?
can someone tell me why it need to be taken after pct? after pct in theory your body almost recover so what the point?
Can you use this while on cycle like hcg?
My PCT ended yesterday. I feel good and recovered, and maybe it's in my head, but I feel like my boys aren't fully back. Had planned on throwing DSIP in the day after PCT as suggested by H&P previously, and am glad I have it on hand because of that (assuming my balls thing isn't in my head... They're back, I just feel like they used to have a schoach more to them... Yea, I said schoach... )
Regardless, here goes nothing. Going with 250mcg/Ed for 20-30 days. Will update with results. Getting bloods in 2 weeks.
Keep us posted but I would wait a minimum of 4 weeks after PCT to pull bloods normally. If you're going to run the DSIP for 30 days may be worth waiting 6 weeks. Perhaps a test at the end of PCT and before you introduced the DSIP and then 6 weeks later would be interesting but it doesn't deal with the time factor where you would expect your natty test to come back to a greater extend the further out from PCT end you get - DSIP or not. Remember PCT doesn't mean you've recovered it sets you up for recovery which proper time off should lead to (although obviously not guaranteed).
Very true and good points. I was planning on getting bloods in 2 weeks and then the normal 4 weeks after PCT, so we can see the mid point and 30 day point of DSIP and if there's a difference. then again, maybe it wouldn't help us either way since naturally i'd probably be higher 4 weeks after.. maybe it would make more sense to get them done tomorrow and then in 4-6 weeks so we can see before and after DSIP...
As I side note... I do think my test is back to the normal range it was in before I cycled. (don't know for sure since i haven't had bloods yet). That being said, I know i'm not actually recovered, since the only reason it's there (assuming it is) is because of the drugs i was taking...
I agree a test tomorrow and then again 4 - 6 weeks out would be more beneficial and it would also allow you to test your hypothesis that your test is back to normal levels. Everyone is different and I know from my own labs that this has never been the case for me. Keep us posted brother by posting a link to the labs when you get them +1 from me.
thanks brother. and thanks for helping me figure that out. I'll try and order it today so i can go on lunch tomorrow.
My pleasure and to complete the "experiment" the next time you PCT (assuming a similar cycle) you run the same tests at the same time but no DSIP and compare them. It's far from perfect but it may provide greater insight into how DSIP works for you :-)
Agreed! was already planning on it. Next cycle probably won't be until at least halloween though since i stayed on for 14 weeks, it was a prop run, @ 75mg/ED with a little var thrown in at the end. I intend on making the next almost identical. the only difference will be t-bol thrown in there for 4-6 weeks at some point, and probably only 12 weeks. I may drop it to 60-65/ed too, since I feel like I could've gotten away with a little less this last time.
Used this started 2 weeks after PCT at 250 mcg before bed and I can honestly say that I am sure it raises test levels. I felt good and like H&P noticed enlargement of testes and experienced some acne. After using for 4 weeks I did not notice any sort of suppression of natural test after discontinuing. Thanks HumpNPump for sharing your experience with DISP I will be using this again and I hope to pull some bloods next time.
DISP had very little effect on my sleep patterns maybe an extra 30-60 minutes of sleep per night and slept a little deeper but that is not why I was taking this.
Thanks for the feed back bro. Glad it worked. I used it last pct and it made a big difference.
Does this reverse testicular atrophy or once discontinued do they revert back to the size they were before?
I think the biggest issue is getting legitimate DSIP. I used it once. When I recon it, it turned like milky color. I emailed source and he sent me two new ones. Same thing happened with those. I tried it and didn't get any infection reaction so I upped it. At the end I did almost have the vial and still did not notice anything. I'm fully sure that it was not DSIP. I think that's the cause for a lot of the differing reports on it. I am also a recovering addict and am on subutex treatment. I plan on coming off of those soon and I've heard DSIP makes the withdraws non exsistant. The problem now is finding a peptide company that's trustworthy and has legit products. By the way I sent you a fr hump.
I know someone in a similar situation. How'd that work out for you? Did u find a legit source?
Love to hear how this works out for you man. Post up when you come off treatment and let's us know if it works. Best of luck with it.
Used 500 mcg ED for 2 weeks. I did not noticed any improvement of sleep factor. I did not feel more refreshed in morning. I used to sleep max. 6 hours from monday till friday. I think i have to sleep for 8 hours at least if I want to see some results in that way. My testicles were not full enough cause I used DSIP during Tren cycle.
Ivan1985Could you send me some info on dosage their seems to be no actually dosing at all on this stuff, i looking to try this for the sleep factor ?
250mcg the standard dose for most guys? Are you guys doing subQ?
Not really much info, 250 mcg seems to work fine with no associated side effects. Nothing written in stone it's research lol.
FR sent. Have some questions about this cheers
This thread definitely convinced me to give this a run. The fact that it minimizes opiate and alcohol withdrawal is especially intriguing. For this peptide be in existence for four decades you'd think there'd be a lot more read ups on it....
I've been taking 250mcg every afternoon for the last four days. Doesn't help to get me to sleep but once asleep I've had very vivid dreams last two nights which hasn't happened in years. Dreams mean REM sleep which is the phase after Delta but it indicates the cycle through the phases of sleep has apparently been restored. But I still need to fix my circadian rhythym. I think I've desensitised myself to my own melatonin from taking it in an effort to fall asleep. It didn't work. I need to restore my circadian rhythym somehow. This is one of the reasons I started on HGH. Insomniacs and shift workers have really low levels of IGF-1. I needed a boost in my levels after years of bad sleep at the wrong time. I've also been upping my Vit D3 intake. I know it's toxic at high levels but I'm not approaching that amount. D3 is a hormone with many functions one of which is regulating Melatonin release as part of the circadian cycle.
Yeah melatonin is suppose to help shift workers, which i take periodically since I work 3rd shift. It's regulates the circadian rhythm. DSIP supposedly will restore circadian rhythm. I don't get sleepy when I take it either, but sleep more sound and about an hour longer. Give it some time and get to bed at a routine time and wake up at same time, this will stabilize your circadian rhythm. In worse case senerio you may need light therapy to get your circadian rhythm back on track.
Roles in endocrine regulation[edit]
Decreases basal corticotropin level and blocks its release.[8]
Stimulates release of luteinizing hormone (LH).[15]
Stimulates release of somatoliberin and somatotrophin secretion and inhibits somatostatin secretion.[16]
I found this on wiki and was interested if anyone knew much more about the inhibition of somatostatin and if this is something that can be used to potentiate GHRP/GHRH specifically MK677. I was also interested if there would be any suppression from the raised LH.
Why would there be suppression with raised LH, it will be just the opposite by increasing LH naturally you will increase testosterone. Did you see my bloodwork a few lines down?
I'm probably wrong here so correct me if I am. I was thinking that it would be suppressive in the same way that HCG is. LH is raised (somehow?, I will get back to that in a sec) therefore testosterone is raised. But through negative feedback GnRH, FSH and LH is inhibited which equals lower testosterone. Now I'm assuming that the raised LH is endogenous. I searched forever looking for the mechanism of action responsible for DSIP raising LH and couldn't come up with much. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0361923087900694. In this article it comes to the conclusion that DSIP may play a role in sleep related LH release. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/945300 In this article it shows a direct release of LH during sleep. (granted the study was done with women but I'm assuming there may be a thing or two similar between males and females) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3121137 this article is similar to the first one I posted but with still good info. If I am overlooking something or am just flat out wrong please let me know. I am interested in this peptide and hope that I am wrong for PCT purposes.
It's endogenous release of GnRH that stimulates LH and gets the ball rolling, this is what DSIP does it isn't like exogenous HCG.
Do you happen to have a link to a study which shows that its GnRh thats released? So would that release of GnRH bypass the negative feedback loop? Cause if so it seems like once you quit taking DSIP that there would be a period of low T brought forth by the negative feedback lol.
I've searched NCBI for the last hour and can't find it. I pretty sure that's where I say the study. If I run across it I'll post it up.
I also read a study earlier that was from 2006 and it showed that DSIP was active in the ME part of they hypothalamus which is a place where GnRH is secreted before going to the pituitary. So Im guessing that its sort of like a GnRH secretagogue. Among other actions. So i see what you mean by no suppression.
Also in the ME is where HGRH and TRH are released as well as Dopamine. So Im guessing thats where the GH effects come into play.
What are tall dosing at?
250 mcg ed. A 5mg vial will last about 3 weeks. That's all you should need
We'll uh I took 250 last night and had to beat my boy to get him down watching tv this evening and I'm off a previous cycle and I have not wanted to have sex for a while lol definitely believe ya now
Why say tv, we all know it was porn! It's ok to say porn, see PORN!!! Lol glad it's helping bro. Drop a line in here in a few weeks and let us know how it's going.
Bloodwork is posted. Looks pretty good. https://www.eroids.com/pics/bloodwork-5-weeks-post-pct#comment-2053546
I love DSIP it was literally a godsend. I was on opiates for the past 8 years. Started with percocets in H.S then OxyContin which was a huge problem in my school. Led to shooting heroin and any other drug I could shoot. at 18 I got clean and didn't even drink for two years mainly because I had joined the Marine Corps like I said though two years into being in he corps I had my appensdix burst in camp lejeune they gave me a ton of narcotics. In the naval hospitals they're quite generous with the painkillers. This led to a serious relapse and one njp led to another and before I knew it I got charged with an article 112 alpha and got the boot with an O.T.H and I have been on suboxone ever since. I haven't done anything else since then. I haven't even had a drop of liquor in years. But the suboxone is a highly potent opioid itself even though it's used to get "off drugs" as a replacement for methadone. Little did I know e suboxone is even harder to get off of then heroin and the withdrawals last much much longer because of the drugs long half-life something the Doctor forgot to mention. I've been trying to get off of the suboxone on and off for over a year because I don't want to be on anything and failed every time. Then I read a lot of the studies about how they used DSIP to treat opioid withdrawal syndrome and how 97% of the people receiving it no longer had any symptoms so I ordered a bunch a little over 6 months ago and began taking it while tapering off my suboxone the same way I tried in he past and failed but it seriously helped. I was still uncomfortable for the first 2 weeks but I still functioned and felt decent it made it much much more bearable. So if it wasn't for the DSIP I'd probably still be a slave to opioids. I'm the happiest and most clear headed I've been in years and I owe it to this peptide.
Awesome bro! I've read this also and it's good for alcohol withdraws to. Thanks for sharing, maybe this will help someone by reading this in the future.
Could you tell us if the DSIP helped you with your sex drive at all or boys staying extra full?
Shit man sorry just saw this, but I can't comment on that but I start pct in 3 days I'm gonna wait a week into it and see where my sex drive and everything else is at then I'll start the dsip at 300mcg every night and post results on any difference it's gonna make. Hopefully it's still g2g I've had that vial in the freezer for like 6 months haven't reconned it yet so it should be fine.
Love some src info, FR sent.
Dosing ?
Does it help with sleep? Have you noticed a difference in that aspect?
Yeah it helps, nothing dramatic. I sleep a little more sound and about an hour longer, feel refreshed and not groggy.
The reason they call it delta sleep inducing peptide is because it makes you get more slow wave sleep aka delta sleep. This is the stage of sleep GnRH and GH is released. Rem is when testosterone is released.
I'm thinking this DSIP is a better choice for addition to pct than triptorelin. DSIP releases GnRH gonadotropin releasing hormone which stimulate LH which in turn stimulates natty testosterone.
This peptide is definitely stimulating testosterone production. I never get acne and yesterday had 2 big zits pop up. Sex drive is up and sense of well being is good. I can't pin this to anything else except the DSIP.
That' damn good news!
Seems usefull for the after pct blues.
Fr sent, same question as 99
It's definitely a breakthrough in stimulating natty LH, I've never experienced anything like it.
My wife is like wow those are huge, lol.