posted Thu, 07/23/2015 - 02:40
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Eroids "guru"
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I was just thinking we no longer have a site guru. No Tread, Viking isn't around so there's no site guru.
Does eroids need one? I think the tag used to have some impact on some of the members posting up crazy cycles. I'm thinking back to when Viking had the guru tag but wasn't a moderator, I think the tag used to make some of them more receptive. It also enables newer members to separate the real experience from the second / third hand knowledge that is often just repeated.
So do we need one? I'm not going to name anyone, but I can think of someone who would be a suitable candidate.
Member thoughts? Mods thoughts?
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AnonThat's all I got is real experience lol... Good and bad and plenty of both.. There's plenty guys that know more than me tho
Honestly I am not sure if we need it and I don't know of a member who can fill Vikings shoes those fuckers are big dawg
But there are some guys here that can do the job nice I think
I'm just not sure we need it at the same time I'm not disagreeing with the post.... In another sense I would like to see Viking back..... The Guru
@Catalyst, I have spent countless hours reading threads from years ago, and many of those old threads have tons of great info from members with high karma ratings who don't seem to have posted for years.
Hell, I think one of the best pieces of advice to newbies here would be, "read all the stickies from every topic. Then pic one topic and read every thread regarding whatever you're trying to learn about (I started with Anabolic Steroids and clicked on every thread that said "dianabol," then did the same with "test e," etc)."
On a similar subject as your thread, one thing that I still find interesting is when I read comments on old threads from members with super high karma that have BAN on them. They give what appears to be solid comments, but they're banned. Obviously they broke the rules one too many times to be forgiven, but dang, how could someone get in the high hundreds, even thousands on karma, then get themselves banned? I find it interesting, indeed.
not true zeus some of those members had their accounts hacked and instead of deleting the accounts and the valuable information they were kept as banned.. I can name a few of them ..
@kodiakGRRL, that sucks about getting hacked, especially with such high karma. I appreciate the need and desire for anonymity here, but it's those instances where I wish there was sort of a "save your account" type of function for moments like that where a guy/gal could reactivate through e-mail (if approved by moderators, etc). Regardless, when a high karma member says "DON'T DO THIS," I've learned to listen.
Sorry to hijack the op here. Back to topic we go!
So some of those members are still here?
I dont think just one individual would work they would get blown up with so many members wanting advice. But say you have a few gurus all with different backgrounds that can answer or guide anyone as well as not getting overwhelmed and burned out seems as if Viking said he took a break last time due to getting eroid burnout just my thoughts
That happens anyway. Fancy taking charge of my pm's?
lol x2
I'm gonna double dip here. Besides expertise, the site "guru" should be a person of exceptional character with the heart of a servant. It should be somebody who really wants to help others achieve their goals and in some cases even their dreams. This is a big place and folk here have all different levels of interest and commitment to athletics and the gym. There may be some folk here (I can think of a couple actually) that have dreams of a career in BB (I know how exceptional and how hard and unrealistic that is from personal experience) but they just don't have the means to hire consultants and trainers and the like and maybe a site guru could take such folk under their wing and provide a little of that coaching that can be really expensive. I realize a lot of us already do a fair share of PM work with people in that direction but to have the leadership team here give a seal of approval on a guru tag for the right person would only be a blessing. I don't know who all the "real" experts are here on eroids. I wish I did. I certainly know some of them. Maybe some people don't but I do miss Viking. I had some pretty weird non open forum type questions that were important to me and I could always send him a PM and he took the time to provide a well thought out accurate answer that was immensely helpful. Nothing wrong with having someone like that.
Yup I miss Viking, he would always take the time to fine tune my cycles, give me long as pep talks and motivational speeches. He was a true guru in all aspects of building muscle, getting shredded breaking plateaues etc. hopefully he will come back.
I think all of us miss Viking. Hopefully someday he will reemerge from the North Sea and join us again.
Can I be a son of a bitch and ask what happened to tread? It was before my time.
I think it would be a good idea, but a lot of work on behalf of the tag holder.
And I like flash's idea for a next level.
He left ... the ban tag is because his account was on the list of possibly being hacked ..
I am always open for discussion but I personally don't think we need it. While karma score can be manipulated most of the really high karma guys have earned it and show their knowledge. Without a more advanced way to vet a guru it leaves us open to some day having egg on our faces. At least one former Guru was not what everyone thought.
You really don't think you'd be able to judge that nowadays? A couple of the guys I'm thinking of are in no way frauds and have the silverware to prove it.
True there have been those that pulled the crook over people's eyes in the past, Papaswole bring a great example. I'm sorry to say that there were some of us that knew he was full of shit from the outset and there were foolish people engaging with him financially. I think the difference now is there are a lot more experienced heads that have been here a while than there were back in those days. Don't underestimate yourselves, you guys as a team know what's what 99% of the time.
If you're referring to who I think you are many would still be shocked. Was it you that I destroyed the myth for? Can't remember who, but I remember someone being very shocked.....
I honestly don't remember anymore who told me first but that is one thing that goes with this tag, you find out things you wish you hadn't. After conversing with monk on the side we are going to put you up for recommendation bro, that is no guarantee that it will come to pass however.
AnonHe'd make a good one
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RustyhookerAgree on catalyst
Lol, I should have waited a few minutes before posting my first response. I had just come back to ground level after busting ass and baking in the sun all morning and my brain was frying. Now that I have been back in my trucks AC for a few I am good. lol , that is until I get back to the job site and start roasting again in a few minutes lol
you work?
Sounds like he just lies around getting tanned in the sun
I didn't say that but since you did ;-)
Hahaha! Yea, but normally I handle more of the business and sales side , we get on a deal where either it is difficult or there is a potential pot of gold I will throw my tool belt on.
I gotta do something to pay for my toys.
I think in true grrl fashion that I don't care what my tag says I would just like it to be GREEN ;-)
RustyhookerHonestly, at this time I'm not sure a site guru would help at all. We've got advanced groups right now that aren't doing anything but collecting cobwebs. And the guys running advanced gear...no stats needed....just post up in si pages. Mtren is a daily pwo for newbies right?!?!
As mods we do discuss these things from time to time. Most recently I gave ADV tags to two members for the knowledge and commitment to the site. A guru tag in my personal opinion can only have a positive impact on the community. A few factors obviously come into play, not just sheer knowledge but time spent in the trenches, frequent posts, consistent attitude right across the board, someone who genuinely wants it etc etc.
SDM for me your top the list. However we make these decisions as a team (MoDs) and its is certainly something I'll bring up with my brothers who I respect have their own take on aspects such as these.
Positive post +++
I'm not so sure because of the manner in which the tag would be perceived. Sure there are a number of members with a lot of experience and knowledge and some are more active and vocal than others but once they get that tag many (especially newer members) would automatically assume that their advice trumps all others which is not the case.
What we do here is far from an exact science and there is little research done on using the compounds the way we do. Most knowledge is gained from experience and just because it worked for you doesn't mean it will work for someone else. Too many variables in the mix to give a 100% accurate answer to many questions. So once a GURU gives an answer others, with just as good or maybe better, advice may be reluctant to contribute.
That's definitely a very valid point.
I think having a site guru is an excellent idea. You could do it cat. A few others. If it's legit and really thought through by the mod team it is an awesome idea.
For me as a bodybuilder, I want a guy with a rich competition history and many contest wins who himself has a training business, who himself has a consulting business to pro level athletes, who himself has a Mensa level IQ even if it's not registered, who is an absolute authority on anabolics, peptides (slin included) and all the PEDs we use.
I want that guy to be where the buck stops most of the time. If we in the community are arguing about some bull shit and the guru knows the answer have the guru weigh in and settle it.
If there is somebody in this community who is that good and has the time (that is extremely important) I would love for the guy to step up to the plate and be eroids most knowledgeable member for the benefit of all of us.
I'm not the jealous type. I give out a lot of info and I don't get the opportunity to learn cutting edge stuff. But I want to. I would love to learn from the "guru." It would be a blessing to me and I hope others would feel the same way.
I picked having a guru BB cause that's my sport and a BB guru would be an expert on anabolics, diets and training methods, contest prep and the like.
I realize this is not a BB site, but damn when you talk about having a guru I sure wish it was.
You could really do it cat - practical issue is time zone, most of us are across the pond - Mensa - some may not have heard of it but I remember the exam LOL - comp experience - you were the guy that started the diet clinic - long time AAS use - you own a gym. I dunno my friend you are close. LOL You could teach me some new tricks for sure LMAO. PhD Biocehem. Yeah bro, you qualify. You're also really good with people - despite your IQ you don't talk down to folk that I can see ever.
so steven hawking on roids? lol.
Appreciate your words, but I definitely had someone else in mind.
Personally I don't see the need for a guru, with the amount of combined knowledge our adv, exp, and even pro members have is invaluable. I don't think it takes one person to be a " all knowing " but like I said a combined wealth of knowledge. It gives everyone different view points, and perspectives. I think taking the advice/ knowledge of one person can be foolish. If someone is here and isn't receptive to combined knowledge, they don't need to be here.
That's the other side of the coin, are we better as we are without?
I don't think I would necessarily say we are better without. I just don't know if one voice needs to be louder than another. I mean if for instance we have one guy who is exp and has been around the game for a long time, and truly knows his stuff, does his advice get trumped by a guy with just about the same experience but has the guru tag. Now i know Eroids has a ranking system in place for a reason, and I think this ranking system works great for the most part, essentially you can read somones input and then look at their rating to potentially determine if that information is worth soaking in. I guess at the end of the day I could lean either for or against it, as long as the knowledge and wisdom is there and is accurate, I could care less what their tag is. It's fairly easy to determine who knows their stuff, and who acts like they know it. Either way, the knowledge here is abundant so it's always a win.
Absolutely right mate. I'll tell you now there are plenty of very clued up members with karma under 50. There wwas a guy on here about 18 months ago that I think had around 80 karma. Was a highly respected competitive BB'er over here in the uk and a real intelligent pioneer in the field.I think only the naïve see the karma number is an indication of knowledge, it's more about their contribution to the site over time.
You would almost think that if a lower karma member really knew his stuff, his info should not really be contradicting towards the site gurus info, they have both been there and done that so you think the info they dish out would be complimentary.
imo opinion i dont know about guru, but i think there should be a next level from expert, as in there a few dudes i think should have a higher level, yourself for one, i dont know what the tag could be, maybe something like "specialist" or "master" but guru is good too, but i think that should be saved for older dudes like viking for instance who have spent their entire lives for more than 40 years etc.
but either way here should be something higher than expert, maybe even "elite" i can think of at least 5 who need something higher than expert.
I like the idea of another level. Some people are specialists in their field and have a basic background in other areas so they wouldn't technically be a guru. The idea of a master level sounds intriguing. We have people who are masters in diet, masters in training, masters in comp prep (pro probably fills that tag), masters in anabolics, masters in peps, masters in several of those areas, etc. So maybe those people could get a masters tag or somthing similar to make them stand out and someone who is a master in all of those is the Guru, like Catalyst.
thought of another one- "vet"
I always thought "troll" was THE tag ;)
lmao mate, you just made me laugh my ass off for real, i needed that, fkn " trolls!!!!!!!! hahaha
Makwa is my 1st choice !!
https://www.eroids.com/users/makwa
Well your the pro right?
I think you should have the guru tag. Maybe someone else may fill those shoes but can't think of who off the top of my head.
If it came down to a vote, you'd get my vote. Considering your comp background and experience on here i think you'd be ideal for the role.
Definitely not who I had in mind!
Looks like your application is in!!!
Yeah tread was really cool to me when I first joined.
I Remeber going to him because there was a dead fly in my prop from power trip. Lmao
He took it in stride, where I was horrified
No application from me mate, definitely shoes I couldn't fill.
Maybe not needed, maybe there's a reason not to, I don't know. Be interesting to see how it develops.