posted Sat, 05/02/2015 - 07:30
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Severe pip help
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Guys I am having excruiating crippling pip, the stuff that is causing it has EO oil in it. This pain in unbearable, I've missed work, the gym and can barely walk. It's not an infection and I've pinned hundreds of times, so I know what normal pip is. My question is does anyone know if Mutas 1-test cyp he use to sell contained EO oil? If so then I am not allergic to the EO seeing how that was super smooth and painless but rather maybe allergic to the Guiacol or something else. Please help solve this mystery lol
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Yes it contains eo and guiacol and a cocktail of other solvents is what he told me.
Thanks brother! And that's weird than cause it was pain free so I'm not allergic to the EO and if it has guiacol I'm not allergic to that either, maybe heavy solvents? I did pin 3 Ccs to front load so maybe it was just too much volume
I think that is your problem. 3 ccs is a boatload of that stuff to pin.
I dunno if i may be breaking some unspoken rule here but if i were you and i have been on occasion i would aspirate the injection site. I don't know if there are any serious dangers in it, i mean i wouldn't think so, i have had to do it on a number of occasions and it helped. You just take an empty pin and jab yourself where tge lump is and pull the plunger back and remove the fluid in the site. It sounds like your body is attacking the injection site and devouring in the process mucsle tissue hence the severe pain. Im no doc and im no expert and i can't say what is happening to you is the same thing i have experienced but i have pulled about 30mils of fluid looking almost like blood only lighter with different viscosity out of one of my quads before and i started to heal immediately. Also here is something else to keep in my mind, allergies are not a static constant thing and there are any nuber of variables that could contribute to irritation from any IM injection.
RustyhookerPulling fluid like that can make infection worse. You pulled out was fluid from a sterile abscess. You're lucky it didn't get worse and should have been at er getting meds.
Folks that keep dumping large cc pins into 1 spot had better be damn sure they know what they're doing. Sterile abscess forms because body can't absorb fast enough. Be safe!! Get yourself 10+ REGULAR pin spots and rotate them all at low cc
Yea i learned that lesson the hard way. It was weird though it has only ever happened with test e from sarcoplex and big d and it happened on first injects in cycles, so no site buildup and given the fact that no one else was complaining i just had to chalk it up as unexplainable and chunk the stuff. As far as aspirating the site i went down that path Because that is what you do to effectively treat it. Also i was on antibiotics as always keep a stockpile. But your right if you do 3cc injects at a time which i do up to 4 in glutes you had better be properly rotating or you will learn rather quickly what your body will handle and what it won't.
RustyhookerDefinitly. It sucks to lose a pin spot for errors. I'm currently pinning ed to keep injections 1.5 or lower. Not worth the risk to me for big cc pins.
crackerI have seen alot of comments written by you rusty and can tell you know whats up. I have only been able to pin myself in the glutes and shoulders . I do need more pin sites. Honestly ,I,m kinda scared to go anywherelse but I know as long as Im not in a vein I should be ok
RustyhookerEagles below has you correct. Virgin pip can happen BUT if you don't branch out you'll never be prepared for a middle of the road cycle requiring eod or ed pins.
Click my avi. Read my pip forums.
Spotinjections.com too
I was very nervous to mix it up and start hitting different sites like my pecs but I am glad I did. It's the "fear of the unknown" for the most part. There will be that virgin muscle pip for the first few but not bad
Believe me if i wasn't as lazy and stupidly brave i would do the same thing. When ppl ask me what my injection protocol will line up like i never discuss it unless its in the context of something like this where i can convey the risks. Shit one time i ended up in the erfir real after the fluid seeped into my hip and even after 3 doses of morphine and 2 dilaudid injections i was still in agony. I don't even want to know what could happen if some shit like that got out of control. Bottom line is this is dangerous and if your gonna pin 3cc at a time shit happens sometimes.
RustyhookerOuch holy hell! Some pain is fun. But just not that type. Lol. The things we do for this sport
Just like Rusty said.. order something else now and bin that other stuff..
RustyhookerOf course he used eo. Also, from reading his 1test had pip. You read my pip forums? Blending? If you lost work for pip, throw in trash and pct or change cycle if not too far in.
Mutas 1-test cyp had EO?
RustyhookerMuta had several different recipes. Remember muta was not a brewer. He was just a sales man. He had eo, guaicol and different oils used. He had big brewers tagging labels for him as many resellers on here do.
Damn I would love to know if his 1-test had EO oil cause that shit was pain free and smooth so it would mean EO isn't the problem
RustyhookerI must be very lost. Up top you cite his 1test cyp is crippling you? What am I missing sir?
TronYou say it's not an infection? are you sure about that? No redness? no swelling? no fever? Is this off one pin or did this happen twice(If you were foolish enough to pin it again a second time that is).. There's normally no source talk in the open forums but I think this one will fly seeing as how Muta is gone for good.. We need more details though.. which site did you pin, how often and for how long have you been pinning that site? but most importantly could you just not of struck the hell out of a nerve?? I did that one time over a year ago and STILL remember that pain to this day.. I couldn't sit down.. let alone walk without a limp. If your not feeling sick and there is no abscess forming you're probably ok but you do need to go to a doctor bro just to be safe.
No fever, no redness, it is swollen but hard swollen painful lump. And no I've pinned three times thinking it would get better, I tried heating it and everything. I've pinned quad and both glutes. Just started cycle so it's been months. I have had this happen before with excruiating pain that eventually went away after a week, I had to ditch the stuff. I'm thinking it could be an EO problem but seeing how 1-test cyp from anabolic nation gave me no pip at all and if it did contain EO then that isn't my problem, it would be a problem with the solvents used.