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+ 23 IMPORTANT - eroids Integrity

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We have had a problem, and probably will always have a problem, with gear whores. There has been lots of scolding sources for violations of the rules, but in this situation we have a list of members that all want to participate in an illegal PM promo and not inform MODs.

Integrity.

An interesting word, one that I personally value very highly in both my personal and professional capacities. In an online community such as this, integrity is a highly valued commodity, which makes me all the more disappointed to write this post.

Let's take a look at a scenario I've been investigating. An unverified source sends out a pm promo to a list of members offering freebies, quite a lengthy list at that. In the sources eyes, they're trying to get a head start on promoting their business. What should the member do? Apparently what a lot of you do is throw your integrity out of the window and accept the freebies in exchange for a review. It's a unverified source selling on pm, do I REALLY need to spell out the rules? Some of the names on the list are folks that have been here as long as I have. Folks that 100% know this isn't acceptable and won't be tolerated.

Let's consider what happens if everybody behaves like this. Plain and simply, it jeopardises everybody's safety. It's not just the mod team that are responsible, each and every one of you are a part of a unit that limits a sources ability to pull stunts. Just a few weak links in the chain can devalue our reviews process, you should all be aware that should you receive a pm of this nature you should contact a mod.

We will be cleaning up on this kind of behavior.

Catalyst's picture

I'd like those here that were implicated to think about why we decided to post this up. I hope you can see now that this stuff goes on behind closed doors and is a threat to you, the AAS purchaser and user. It can take lots of man hours to uncover underhand source activity, but if members uphold the integrity of the site, our job is easier meaning more of it gets caught. End result is less issues for EVERYONE.

Have I made my point? I believe so.

Nobody loses any karma. Those banned will be unbanned.

Next time you get something like this from an unverified source, you FLAG IT TO A MOD. If not, next time I won't be so nice.

UgtaBkdNme's picture

Any suspicious PM's will be reported, and I'm no longer accepting random friend requests. Thankfully I didn't accept anything from this guy in the first place. Or discuss it for that matter. Nonetheless, it's been an educational few days.

99transam's picture

Glad I was never offered or received free gear from this guy...what I did get was a pm that probably would've led to an offer, and you can bet I would've reported it. Point being, any suspicious pms from now on will not be ignored...they will be reported!! Thank you catalyst..

MONK's picture

Loud and clear.

Pale's picture

Deal! Next time even when I decline an offer like that I will make damn sure to investigate the source instead of just disregarding them..

Xrated's picture

Man. Most of those people are advanced members. That's a shame.

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juicechase's picture

most of those people take advantage of the karma system.. they had intentions from the beginning to stack up as much karma as they can just for that reason.. i been here for like 3 years with only 57 karma points .. i see dudes here that have been members less then a year with well over 500 karma points..

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Xrated's picture

I agree. I don't post much anymore because of it. Pictures or anything. Burned out

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7gothic's picture

PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT WHEN AN UNVERIFIED SOURCE TRIES THIS SHIT, THERE IS A STRONG POSSIBILITY THAT THEY WERE PREVIOUSLY BANNED FOR SCAMMING PEOPLE. IVE BEEN HERE GOING ON FOUR YEARS AS A MEMBER, A MOD, AND NOW A SOURCE AND I'VE SEEN SOURCES COME AND THROW OUT A BUNCH OF FREE STUFF THAT TURNED OUT TO BE NOTHING MORE THAN EXPENSIVE SALAD DRESSING. BY ALLOWING THESE MAGGOTS TO COME IN AND SHOOT TO STARDOM BASED ON "GENEROSITY" ---ONLY TO WALK OFF WITH TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF MEMBER'S MONEY IS A DISSERVICE TO EVERONE.

I understand that gear can be expensive, but not nearly as expensive as it used to be, and the reason that is, is because of a healthy competitive environment where quality and service are what allow a source to succeed.
You might be surprised how some sources are willing to work with you if you're a little short----I prefer girls under 5'7"

cmo25cent's picture

Lol...I like you.(no homo)

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7gothic's picture

LOL...it's ok...I'm easy.

Catalyst's picture

I had heard that rumour ;)

tonytulo's picture

I personally don't add or accept friend request from people I don't know or have seen. for me to add them they must have some knowledge of some sort or at least be a stand up guy or girl who has similar views on our lifestyle. if they add me then it would have to be similar where I said something that appealed to the them and they wanted to pick my brain. I think if a source tries to add you that's a warning sign in itself let alone if it was some no namer trying to get on the come up. even then it would make me wonder why they weren't getting verified and why they were soo eagerly hand picking people to give "free" gear to because honestly rarely is anything free there is always a catch. then the thought of putting something into my body that came from someone with zero credibility, zero respect in the community , and zero anything is a little scary as a close friend of mine would say it all makes my head hurt. there is a reason why sources get verified the biggest reason Is for our safety , the mods and bfg making sure hes not a known scammer and does indeed have the best interests for everyone including the site and if your willing to do business with someone and don't care about any of that than why by on eroids in the first place? wasn't it designed so the days of sending your money off not knowing what was going to happen are behind us, so we can know and interact with sources and so they can develop a track record and good report so its not a guessing game? even the unverified source discussions are packed with guys saying "another order put in", or "pack received" not knowing who the fuck your doing business with or what your getting in return. all just seems a tad silly to me , I dunno, I don't have tons of money to just throw around in hopes to finally strike gold, I try to make an educated decision over time and talk to others than go from there, seems like common sense right? this whole unverified source thing has gone way too far in all directions and it shouldn't have as grown ass men most should understand why they need to be verified and who it helps when they are, it helps us. an to recognize and wonder why a source is soo willing to sneak around doing shady deals behind the curtains. just as lower ranked members look up to higher ones and follow what they don and think hey if they're doing it it must be ok, it doesn't matter if you say well I didn't sign up to be a role model , no you didn't but you are anyways so try to make educated decisions for the sake of the site. just my two cents.

IrishMack's picture

Im confused, why cant people admit they fucked up and be humble? All I see is lame attempts at justification for their actions, There is no defense when you get caught with your pants down. Admit you fucked up, apologize, dont let it happen again. And life goes on.

UgtaBkdNme's picture

It's not that simple. I don't feel I fucked up, otherwise I would just take my spanking and move along. I'm not trying to stir the pot, and couldn't careless about the karma. But having my integrity called out in open forum for something like this is unnerving. I've never been involved in an "illegal promo"

The source in question (or at least the one I think they are referring to, it has yet to be verified) PMed me asking me where I was located. That was it, no gear was discussed. This is the only PM I can think of between myself and an unverified src.

UgtaBkdNme's picture

Oh I agree it's odd all the way around. I did reply USA, maybe East Coast, something like that I believe but that was the end of it. I didn't check his page to see if he was verified or not, it never occurred to me to do so. I figured he was looking for an EBC person to sponsor and I had a sponsor already. I will not be accepting every friend request anymore, I will investigate from now on.

kodiakGRRL's picture

So what if she did .. you really think my hair is Green?

UgtaBkdNme's picture

Is it too early to call this guy Monster666?

cdyrdes's picture

Its him

TED's picture

No. Pretty sure monster666 has a different avi. Put his picture up and everything

TED's picture

Agreed. Plus monster doesn't try and hide. Like I said he posted a self pic

UgtaBkdNme's picture

I doubt he has only one account lol I assume every troll is him.

TED's picture

There are a couple regular trolls. This one is too polite for monster lol

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Im not fkn with you no more............. get to fuck.

I know you are dreday and you have a life ban........... shoot on sight policy for you son.

kodiakGRRL's picture

you could have let me have a crack at him.. I might have retired the velvet hammer but I still know how to use it ;-)

Pale's picture

You want to see how fast this community will move for Grrl?

Gymjunkie01's picture

Hey asshole .... show some respect .. big man to hide behind that keyboard .... go troll someplace else.. here is a big -2 for you

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Catalyst's picture

Who do you think you're talking to? Not acceptable.

PIN_CUSHION's picture

WTF that was a bullshit comment, show some respect.

TED's picture

Don't you dare crush my dreams like that! Lol

kodiakGRRL's picture

it was clearly a hypothetical question .... of course my hair is green ;-)

MONK's picture

Don't play with my emotions!! Your hair is green mkay?! ;)

UgtaBkdNme's picture

No, I had no clue what they were referring too yesterday. Then after PMing other members I remembered a PM asking my location. It had nothing to do with gear or a promo. Just my location.

UgtaBkdNme's picture

Yeah I deleted a lot of people off my friends list today. I only use 2 sources so they are the only ones I need. No more accepting every FR. lol